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Assume that I'm a college student, living in the united states, with mountains of student debt. Also assume that I'm white, middle class, and straight. What societal mechanisms are there for moving to a place where the entire populace doesn't hate my guts? Furthermore, what resources or legal avenues do I have to leverage any sort of skill that I may have? What parts of my body do I have to sell to get out of this hellhole? Does anyone have much experience with the peace corps? Americorps? What is the most affordable municipality that won't actively tar and feather me? Lurks Morington fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Oct 12, 2017 |
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Quit college get a union apprenticeship in a demanded trade in a major city
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Oct 12, 2017 02:02
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Oct 12, 2017 02:02
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If you're a middle class white male then how would it really be a problem? You could just ignore the conservatives in your town and passively benefit off the racism/misogyny.
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Oct 12, 2017 02:03
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ArbitraryC posted:If you're a middle class white male then how would it really be a problem? You could just ignore the conservatives in your town and passively benefit off the racism/misogyny. When I was riding a schoolbus to one of my football games, one of my teammates started talking about the primordial soup theory of how life came into being. Everyone laughed and said he was a dirty heathen. I take classes where because I brought up Marx's connection to Utopia, I felt like I got major pushback. It kinda blows because I like talking about this stuff, but everyone gets mad when I do Brand me with the starlet letter I don't know
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Oct 12, 2017 02:07
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Maybe don't give such a huge poo poo about other people's politics and instead try to find common ground to bond over and have a good time? You're gonna find huge idiots that don't agree with you no matter where you go.
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Oct 12, 2017 02:08
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Avoid roads and developed areas at all costs, walk through streams where possible, it'll help throw the hounds off your trail. you might think sticking to the woods will provide better cover but moving through the underbrush will slow you down and allow the ATVs to catch up
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Oct 12, 2017 02:09
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Go live on one of the coasts in a big city. You will then join the 'liberal coastal elites'.
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Oct 12, 2017 02:09
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turn them all liberal while you yourself become a conservative
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Oct 12, 2017 02:11
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Lurks Morington posted:When I was riding a schoolbus to one of my football games, one of my teammates started talking about the primordial soup theory of how life came into being. Everyone laughed and said he was a dirty heathen. I take classes where because I brought up Marx's connection to Utopia, I felt like I got major pushback. It kinda blows because I like talking about this stuff, but everyone gets mad when I do VVV Honky Dong Country posted:Maybe don't give such a huge poo poo about other people's politics and instead try to find common ground to bond over and have a good time? You're gonna find huge idiots that don't agree with you no matter where you go. The faster you get over shitheads having terrible political beliefs the better. You're going to meet some troglodyte at a water cooler in the future and he is going to say some awful things about muslims and that'll happen anywhere in america, from Tulsa, OK to Dearborn, MI. Nobody will loving care, you will have no recourse, and if you start poo poo you're going to be the one who has to deal with the fallout. Keep your mouth shut, keep your head down, and if you need friends look for bastions of liberal politics. Your football team is definitely not the place to look for that. If you're in the south or southwest, where high school and college football is taken insanely seriously, most of these people are from conservative backgrounds and are probably where they are right now specifically because they are good at football, not because they are academic achievers
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Oct 12, 2017 02:13
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But it's no fun not caring. Like, I had so much fun when I was younger and now it's so much less fun and I don't know why. You're totally right; it sounds like I'm writing a manefesto, but I just miss my friends. I honestly miss treating adults like all knowing authority figures instead of regular people doing jobs.
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Oct 12, 2017 02:13
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I'd get a 6hr for even suggesting the solution, op.
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Oct 12, 2017 02:14
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restore antique clocks with mercury then commit suicide when your adopted son won't come over to pierce your nipples for a 3rd time in one night
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Oct 12, 2017 02:15
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It's possible to care without freaking out because somebody said a "bad political thing." I'm moderate as hell and generally just don't talk politics with people for the most part. I find it's pretty easy to just go "Eh, I don't necessarily agree with you on that one" and if pressed for my opinion I follow up with "I'm not too big on talking politics, man." And then you talk about things that aren't politics. Pretty simple.
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Mammal Sauce posted:I'd get a 6hr for even suggesting the solution, op. Ha! You witty comical bastard
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Oct 12, 2017 02:16
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Lurks Morington posted:But it's no fun not caring. Like, I had so much fun when I was younger and now it's so much less fun and I don't know why. You're totally right; it sounds like I'm writing a manefesto, but I just miss my friends. I honestly miss treating adults like all knowing authority figures instead of regular people doing jobs. that sounds more like you are into ageplay than anything to do with politics. i'm sure if you go online you can find a daddy to provide cummies.
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Oct 12, 2017 02:16
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Part of being an adult is realizing that your views are not sacrosanct and learning to put up with other people. If that's too hard for you, then maybe find an artist coven in SanFran to shack up with.
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Lurks Morington posted:When I was riding a schoolbus to one of my football games, one of my teammates started talking about the primordial soup theory of how life came into being. Everyone laughed and said he was a dirty heathen. I take classes where because I brought up Marx's connection to Utopia, I felt like I got major pushback. It kinda blows because I like talking about this stuff, but everyone gets mad when I do u are lindsay lohan
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Lurker Ant posted:Part of being an adult is realizing that your views are not sacrosanct and learning to put up with other people. If that's too hard for you, then maybe find an artist coven in SanFran to shack up with. Or on the other side of the spectrum a doomsday prepper colony, but yeah I agree with this. I think it's unhealthy to give a real poo poo about somebody else's politics when you're both just average voters who both prolly have at least one lovely opinion about something. Who gives a gently caress.
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Oct 12, 2017 02:20
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Honky Dong Country posted:Maybe don't give such a huge poo poo about other people's politics and instead try to find common ground to bond over and have a good time? You're gonna find huge idiots that don't agree with you no matter where you go. There is no "Sanctuary."
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I think you guys are projecting a little bit. My question was about societal mechanisms relating to political preferences.
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Oct 12, 2017 02:21
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Lurks Morington posted:I think you guys are projecting a little bit. My question was about societal mechanisms relating to political preferences. Then why did you even post this thread? The answer is to move. The way you sound in the OP especially with the "ugh I better just join the peace corps to escape conservative tar and feathering!" tends to indicate that you're mad that most the locals around you are conservative. E: Like I get that moving costs money and isn't always easy, but that's the answer. And there are no mechanisms to help you move, dude. There's no such thing as a "get outta hicksville" grant or some poo poo. Honky Dong Country fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Oct 12, 2017 |
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Oct 12, 2017 02:23
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Lurks Morington posted:Assume that I'm a college student, living in the united states, with mountains of student debt. Also assume that I'm white, middle class, and straight. What societal mechanisms are there for moving to a place where the entire populace doesn't hate my guts? Furthermore, what resources or legal avenues do I have to leverage any sort of skill that I may have? What parts of my body do I have to sell to get out of this hellhole? Use your liberal guns to eliminate the conservatives.
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The poo poo advice that I will take is to try to get a job which pays you money so you can pay off the debt. Hopefully you don't hate the job too much... Or so the story goes. I think a better solution is to start a revolution or grassroots political movement to cancel all student debt, make education free, make housing, healthcare, nutrition, UBI all human rights enshrined in law and funded with taxes on the very wealthy and nationalization of resources/industry. Then basically just go around and do whatever the gently caress you want, find a job that interests you, work hard at it and contribute to society as an equal, or w/e be a hobo and ride the trains from coast to coast idk idgaf.
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Lurks Morington posted:When I was riding a schoolbus to one of my football games, one of my teammates started talking about the primordial soup theory of how life came into being. Everyone laughed and said he was a dirty heathen. I take classes where because I brought up Marx's connection to Utopia, I felt like I got major pushback. It kinda blows because I like talking about this stuff, but everyone gets mad when I do so you had an opinion and people disagreed so now you want to move ok have at it my man
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Honky Dong Country posted:Then why did you even post this thread? The answer is to move. The way you sound in the OP especially with the (ugh I better just join the peace corps to escape conservative tar and feathering!) tends to indicate that you're mad that most the locals around you are conservative. ^ ^ ^ ^ seriously OP there is nothing else we can tell you i've lived and worked in conservative areas and liberal areas, it's the same poo poo everywhere. You will always have to be around assholes with different politics than you no matter where you are, and whether it's 45% or 65% of people it doesn't really make a difference, you're looking at a minimum of 4 out of 10 people being conservative just about anywhere you go. Maybe California would be better if you lived in the city but good luck paying for that with student loan debt. Places like Portland and Seattle seem appealing until you realize that the entire countryside surrounding both of those areas is filled with some of the craziest conservative motherfuckers on planet earth. Shitkickers don't move to other states, they just move out of the city. Maybe you can be one of those people who moves to portland and tells themselves it's normal to pay $800 a month to live with 7 other people in a 1000sqft apartment, but if that's not appealing to you, get over it dude  Mirthless fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Oct 12, 2017 |
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Aryu Kiddimeh posted:The poo poo advice that I will take is to try to get a job which pays you money so you can pay off the debt. Hopefully you don't hate the job too much... Or so the story goes. Okay cold war kids explain to me: star trek good; communists bad?
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gentlemen, please!!
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Lurks Morington posted:Okay cold war kids explain to me: star trek good; communists bad? Both of the things you just posted are poo poo.
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Lurks Morington posted:Okay cold war kids explain to me: star trek good; communists bad? what did you ever stop and think maybe you're an idiot and that's why you feel ostracized
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Americorp will get you somewhere else. I have a friend who did a year with Americorp VISTA and I am currently considering a term as well. My friend was able to get out of town, then was hired directly by the nonprofit he was assigned to through Americorp (I don't know how common this is). Now he is going through law school with the support of that nonprofit. Americorp 100% gave him a way out of town and some goals to work for. You won't make a ton of money, and VISTA wants you to live in areas affected by the poverty you are supposed to help alleviate. For me, those drawbacks are worth it. Americorp will give 5,000 for education, pay the interest on your loans, and counts as one year of service if you're interested in federal government work afterwards. I was interested in VISTA specifically because you are supposed to be capacity building, meaning more time fundraising, managing, and organizing over simply serving soup or w/e. Not that there's anything wrong with that work, but I want to dig more into advocacy, lobbying and policy and can't really afford to spend a year not doing any professional development.
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Honky Dong Country posted:Both of the things you just posted are poo poo. Nope they're both good
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Try radio frequency 144.75
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Maybe the answer OP, is to just do a job sometime. You'll learn quickly, you get experience, and you won't get so worked up about what is basically a self induced fit of paranoia 
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Light the signal
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OP- if you are really as much of a pariah in your community as you seem to think, I have a suspicion that there may be factors at play other than your political/social beliefs. I work at an oil company in West Virginia and upon mentioning that I voted for Hillary, my coworkers- Trump voting methheads, all- were pretty much "yeah that's cool, it doesn't really matter anyway". IRL people are not confrontational about this kind of thing, unless you're being confrontational first and setting a tone that makes them want to stuff you in a locker.
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Oct 12, 2017 02:45
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Just emulate Paul Newman in the movie "Cool Hand Luke" it seemed to go well for him.
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Lurks Morington posted:Brand me with the starlet letter I don't know Yes you are quite the intellectual.
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