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Volcott
Mar 30, 2010

People paying American dollars to let other people know they didn't agree with someone's position on something is the lifeblood of these forums.
What's the current issue there, our radiation shielding tech isn't good enough?

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Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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I thought the point of SpaceX was that it would be considerably cheaper to get satellites into orbit if we can reuse the rockets.

Fantastic Flyer
Aug 9, 2017

Volcott posted:

What's the current issue there, our radiation shielding tech isn't good enough?

The way I remember it is that cosmic radiation slowly destroys any radiation shielding, which makes longer trips nearly impossible without dying.

My understanding is horribly limited, though, so don't put too much weight on it.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Solice Kirsk posted:

I thought the point of SpaceX was that it would be considerably cheaper to get satellites into orbit if we can reuse the rockets.

Which also makes it cheaper to develop a greater permanent presence in space, which is necessary to launch interplanetary space travel. Musk has a singular vision and is building his other enterprises around that.

Even something like the Boring company, which is mostly a ploy to piggyback on sweet Hyperloop money, could still be used to dig airtight underground caverns on Mars and avoid that whole 'atmosphere' and 'solar radiation' problem.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Volcott posted:

What's the current issue there, our radiation shielding tech isn't good enough?

Yep. You either need something impractically heavy accelerated into orbit and then Hohmann transfer it from Earth to Mars along with the rest of your equipment and crew, or you need to develop some kind of electromagnetic radiation shielding that won't fry the crew by its very power usage/will be able to be solar powered itself or somehow get a serious energy source in orbit, see problem one.

The main way people have thought to solve this with the first method is to have the lunar-Lagrange points pipeline to move material from the Moon to ships being built in orbit and then move those ahead, but you'd still have to accelerate them in to the Hohmann transfer, and I think that whole infrastructure would have to start outside the Van Allen belt, too.

Lurkman
Nov 4, 2008
Is there even a snowball's chance in hell that going for a ride on one of Musk's rockets won't require an income on par with Musk's?

New Butt Order
Jun 20, 2017

Lurkman posted:

Is there even a snowball's chance in hell that going for a ride on one of Musk's rockets won't require an income on par with Musk's?

Yesterday's luxury becomes tomorrow's necessity.

In this case "tomorrow" is probably a good clip away, but SpaceX is gonna be rolling in it when they own all the private slave labor asteroid mining colonies though.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

New Butt Order posted:

Yesterday's luxury becomes tomorrow's necessity.

In this case "tomorrow" is probably a good clip away, but SpaceX is gonna be rolling in it when they own all the private slave labor asteroid mining colonies though.

Which brings up an interesting discussion...if regular space travel becomes privatized, as it definitely is very near, does that mean space will count as international "waters" and yes, you can just claim any old rock floating around as "yours" to have whatever laws you choose?

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Lurkman posted:

Is there even a snowball's chance in hell that going for a ride on one of Musk's rockets won't require an income on par with Musk's?

Musk claims his intercontinental ballistic plane will be cheaper than current options. He's probably comparing it to full price first class fare. Or maybe what a Concord would have cost. So prohibitively expensive, but not impossible.

Maybe they can have a coupon day or something.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Choco1980 posted:

Which brings up an interesting discussion...if regular space travel becomes privatized, as it definitely is very near, does that mean space will count as international "waters" and yes, you can just claim any old rock floating around as "yours" to have whatever laws you choose?
There's already existing convention on Space Law, actually :eng101:

In short, no WMDs, no military bases, and no government can claim an entire celestial body, plus you're responsible for what you do... but the current space law does not account for individuals, so.

Don Gato
Apr 28, 2013

Actually a bipedal cat.
Grimey Drawer

DACK FAYDEN posted:

There's already existing convention on Space Law, actually :eng101:

In short, no WMDs, no military bases, and no government can claim an entire celestial body, plus you're responsible for what you do... but the current space law does not account for individuals, so.

No laws that apply to individuals means the only thing stopping me from declaring myself space-king of the space-rocks is the cost of getting off Earth!:jeb:

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Freeman on the moon

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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bunnyofdoom posted:

Freeman on the moon

The US flag on the moon didn't have gold fringe so I don't know if you have to follow Admiralty Law there or not. Can someone please consult with a Space Law wizard about this?

I brought my Drake
Jul 10, 2014

These high-G injections have some serious side effects after pulling so many jumps.

Solice Kirsk posted:

The US flag on the moon didn't have gold fringe so I don't know if you have to follow Admiralty Law there or not. Can someone please consult with a Space Law wizard about this?

Flag on the moon...how did it get there?

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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I believe the vikings brought it. It's by the remains of their longship.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
I'm pretty sure the flag's been bleached white by now. First freeman to grab it accepts joinder to negotiate the United States' surrender to said's person.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
I heard it was whalers

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



The Bloop posted:

I heard it was whalers

Did they carry a harpoon?

SneezeOfTheDecade
Feb 6, 2011

gettin' covid all
over your posts

bunnyofdoom posted:

Did they carry a harpoon?

Yes, but there ain't no whales.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

Besesoth posted:

Yes, but there ain't no whales.

So they tell tall tales?

Clam Chowdown
May 8, 2006

That's an unacceptable answer, Donny!
And sing whaling tunes.

A few years ago, there was a cop drama show called Almost Human that took place a few decades in the future. It featured all kinds of sweet high tech gear, robotic prosthetics, and android cop partners that could scan your testicles.

And what kind of cool currency would be mainstream in this advanced setting? Why, usb sticks of bitcoins, of course!

Trauma Dog 3000
Aug 30, 2017

by SA Support Robot

Clam Chowdown posted:

And sing whaling tunes.

A few years ago, there was a cop drama show called Almost Human that took place a few decades in the future. It featured all kinds of sweet high tech gear, robotic prosthetics, and android cop partners that could scan your testicles.

And what kind of cool currency would be mainstream in this advanced setting? Why, usb sticks of bitcoins, of course!

that show was great, you a bitch.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Krispy Wafer posted:

Which also makes it cheaper to develop a greater permanent presence in space, which is necessary to launch interplanetary space travel. Musk has a singular vision and is building his other enterprises around that.

Even something like the Boring company, which is mostly a ploy to piggyback on sweet Hyperloop money, could still be used to dig airtight underground caverns on Mars and avoid that whole 'atmosphere' and 'solar radiation' problem.

Hard to get investors for the Boring company unless you're producing porn.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Trauma Dog 3000 posted:

that show was great, you a bitch.

Did we ever find out what the red balls did.

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

Milo and POTUS posted:

Did we ever find out what the red balls did.

They were ground into powder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7iWV8mp-3E

Strudel Man
May 19, 2003
ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

queserasera posted:

Flag on the moon...how did it get there?
Tor Johnson did it.

Infyrno
Jul 24, 2003

The Duke
I can already envision the SVU episode where someone is raped in space and the defense lawyer argues it was at the time not illegal to do that. Suspect is acquitted but on their next spaceflight the victim throws them out of the airlock.

Strudel Man
May 19, 2003
ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT
Law and Order - Space Victims Unit?

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Strudel Man posted:

Law and Order - Space Victims Unit?

Special Vacuum Unit.

Trauma Dog 3000
Aug 30, 2017

by SA Support Robot

Wheat Loaf posted:

Special Vacuum Unit.

*empty silence* *empty silence*

Volcott
Mar 30, 2010

People paying American dollars to let other people know they didn't agree with someone's position on something is the lifeblood of these forums.
Hey lady from the cold open, maybe you shouldn't have been absolutely nowhere near your baby if you didn't want that rape victim to check on it because it was crying.

Zamboni Rodeo
Jul 19, 2007

NEVER play "Lady of Spain" AGAIN!




Trauma Dog 3000 posted:

*empty silence* *empty silence*

:golfclap:

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Volcott posted:

Hey lady from the cold open, maybe you shouldn't have been absolutely nowhere near your baby if you didn't want that rape victim to check on it because it was crying.

.....what

TheKennedys
Sep 23, 2006

By my hand, I will take you from this godforsaken internet
Do songs count? Cause I pulled up Avenue Q on Spotify the other day since I realized I hadn't listened to it recently and hoooooooly gently caress "Everyone's A Little Bit Racist" wasn't great to start with but listening to it in the context of 2017 is just cringe-inducing

OutOfPrint
Apr 9, 2009

Fun Shoe
I saw a local production of Avenue Q a few years ago. It was an all-white cast. That was incredibly uncomfortable. I haven't been able to listen to the soundtrack since.

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006


Just have to update The Internet is For Porn (And Also Racism)

ZakAce
May 15, 2007

GF

TheKennedys posted:

Do songs count? Cause I pulled up Avenue Q on Spotify the other day since I realized I hadn't listened to it recently and hoooooooly gently caress "Everyone's A Little Bit Racist" wasn't great to start with but listening to it in the context of 2017 is just cringe-inducing

Just had a look as well and yeesh. Ironic racism might have been more OK back in '06 but in today's racist-tacular context? Oh dears.

If we can extend the original premise of the thread to include movie sequences, then I'd like to nominate the end of Tommy Boy (with Chris Farley, may he rest in peace). A whole bit about Chris Farley's character pretending to be a suicide bomber? That got a lot less funny once terror attacks started ramping up in the 21st century.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

ZakAce posted:

Just had a look as well and yeesh. Ironic racism might have been more OK back in '06 but in today's racist-tacular context? Oh dears.

If we can extend the original premise of the thread to include movie sequences, then I'd like to nominate the end of Tommy Boy (with Chris Farley, may he rest in peace). A whole bit about Chris Farley's character pretending to be a suicide bomber? That got a lot less funny once terror attacks started ramping up in the 21st century.

No, that's still pretty funny. The worse of an idea it becomes, the funnier it gets because that makes it even more likely Tommy would try it.

Nemesis Of Moles
Jul 25, 2007

I just watched a Futurama episode all about "EyePhones" and "Twitting" and Susan Boyle. I'd forgotten Futurama had episodes this bad.

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Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Nemesis Of Moles posted:

I just watched a Futurama episode all about "EyePhones" and "Twitting" and Susan Boyle. I'd forgotten Futurama had episodes this bad.

Almost entirely after the revival. The original run is still gold, but sadly no longer on Netflix.

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