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What hot hatch do you own?
This poll is closed.
Golf GTI / R / R32 196 0.02%
Impreza WRX / STi 133 0.01%
Mazdaspeed 3 92 0.01%
Veloster Turbo 20 0.00%
Focus ST 149 0.01%
Other Hot Hatch 230 0.02%
Elantra GT 1000001 99.92%
Total: 1000821 votes
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Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



[quote="“Quite A Tool”" post="“476879014”"]
If you don’t think insurance companies won’t use every shred of data to avoid paying money you’re in for a surprise.
[/quote]

Actually....

Connected car technology is going to be absolutely massive and change the industry. All the OEMs and other vendors (Verizon Hum, Sirius, etc) are all out there today trying to market and sell your data to insurance companies and anyone else who has an interest in it. That said, it's still pretty unclear on the legalities of a number of factors. That's why every insurance company is very hesitant to use data they collect today for claims handling. The only Instances of using the data that exists today that I'm aware of is for stolen vehicle claims.

The big change comes with the car subscription services that millennials and city dwellers love. It's a lot easier to use the data when a company owns the car and bakes in the permission to use it into the contract. Now you know not only exactly what the car was doing, but that every Thursday you go to the same restaurant, and you go grocery shopping on Saturday morning, and oh you've used the built in WiFi several times to watch porn. You prefer blondes.

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SEGA Ass Fisting
Feb 15, 2012

KEEP IT TIGHT!
I was thinking about buying a small jon boat for fishing with my pops. Any chance at all I'll be able to tow it with the FiST?

Something like this

Cellular Suicide
Dec 9, 2005

Classical 33's at 45RPM

Rape Stink posted:

I was thinking about buying a small jon boat for fishing with my pops. Any chance at all I'll be able to tow it with the FiST?

Between the ride height and lack of low-end power, everything I've read makes this sound like a bad idea. I think attaching a hitch requires cutting the rear bumper as well, it's not something that seems worth it.

SEGA Ass Fisting
Feb 15, 2012

KEEP IT TIGHT!

Cellular Suicide posted:

Between the ride height and lack of low-end power, everything I've read makes this sound like a bad idea. I think attaching a hitch requires cutting the rear bumper as well, it's not something that seems worth it.

ehh that's what I figured. Looks like I'm stuck solo kayak fishing for now.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
I guess I wouldn't see the issue with it. I pulled a Harbor Freight trailer with my two motorcycles and gear (probably 1300ish lb) from Phoenix to Spring Mountain Raceway (Pahrump, NV), then across to Thunderhill Raceway (Willows, CA), and back to Phoenix across 4 days without a single issue. People make way too big of a deal about pulling stuff with a car. Hell, I was on the stock clutch with a tune and downpipe, if that says anything (stock GTI clutches go poof quick like this unless driven with a few things in mind).

BlackMK4 fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Sep 30, 2017

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.
I've pulled way more than that with an older model Fiesta ST (the one with the 2l that never came to the States) and it copes just fine.

We don't have the same strictness around towing here though so I'd check the insurance situation.

angryrobots
Mar 31, 2005

It's probably fine to pull it.

Just don't plan on pulling it up a boat ramp with much slope.

SEGA Ass Fisting
Feb 15, 2012

KEEP IT TIGHT!
hmm. I'll have to see if it's possible to get a hitch installed without doing anything to the bodywork. Gotta say, I'm not super jazzed about having a hitch sticking out the back of my little ST now that I think about it. Maybe I'll just buy a beater truck and get some cheapo barely legal insurance.

powderific
May 13, 2004

Grimey Drawer
I've got a hitch on my FiST for a bike rack and it didn't require any modifications other than stiffer exhaust hanger rubber to keep it from clanging around.

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe
Got my PSS's installed yesterday. Haven't really gotten to try them out but they're at least a million times better than the stock all seasons in the wet. No surprise there.

Got a queen foundation home from Costco on the roof rack today too. I should have brought my longer straps but I got it to work. It wasn't as secure as I preferred but I was somehow able to stay off the loving highway unlike the majority of people with less than secure loads. I did run into an issue with trying to stay on neighborhood side streets because the dumb rear end suburb I'm temporarily living in has almost no side streets you can go point to point on. It's all 4 lane 45mph roads with dead end cul-de-sacs between them. Can't wait to get out of here. Hopefully I don't end up hanging myself in my car at one of the endless red lights within the next month.

calusari
Apr 18, 2013

It's mechanical. Seems to come at regular intervals.
Honda will be introducing a cheaper base model Civic Type R in the US. Hopefully they will even be available at MSRP.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2017/10/honda-appears-ready-launch-cheaper-entry-level-2018-civic-type-r/

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

calusari posted:

Honda will be introducing a cheaper base model Civic Type R in the US. Hopefully they will even be available at MSRP.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2017/10/honda-appears-ready-launch-cheaper-entry-level-2018-civic-type-r/

It still looks terrible.

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

Rhyno posted:

It still looks terrible.

Garage2Roadtrip
Oct 27, 2016
Have stripper-package performance vehicles proved profitable for automakers in the past? I know FCA does it here and there with various configurations, and back in the day did it a lot with the Mopar muscle stuff...

GentlemanofLeisure
Aug 27, 2008
One of the cool things about the old 90's Civics, ITR's, and stuff was the styling was nice but pretty plain and there were no weird panels or designs. That meant companies could design all kinds of body kits, aero, spoilers, and wacky poo poo (aka "rice") that you could install easily and they worked (some to varying degrees) with the lines and styling of the underlying car.

I know the thing these days is widebody kits and splitters, but its difficult to make them look good when the rest of the car is sooooo overstyled.

I guess their market is 90's kids who have money now and want the car for the name recognition, which they'll use for their DD.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
Lest we forget the Civic Type R is really, really good on the track.

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

BlackMK4 posted:

Lest we forget the Civic Type R is really, really good on the track.

not close to 50k good though, they still have that horrible markup thing going

and look like a cyber elephants taint

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
Not much is $50k-good when it comes to a track non-race car when you consider what $5-10k gets you.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:
Honda is pretty transparently trying to co-op the nostalgia for the civics from the 90s with this new one, pre-riced JDM just like before!

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches
honestly I just dont get the appeal of pre-riced.

but then i like to do fun stuff to cars instead of having it done for you, and that one just screams boy racer so hard it would likely get pulled over while parked empty on a street.

Huge_Midget
Jun 6, 2002

I don't like the look of it...

Rhyno posted:

It still looks terrible.

They also get super mad when a Focus RS beats them... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


Been following the thread for a while and you guys had pretty much sold me on getting a GTI around the end of the year, but thanks to hurricane Harvey that's not happening.

Thanks, Harvey, for flooding my house but not my stupid rear end grand cherokee. I should've driven it into water when I had the chance.

PaintVagrant
Apr 13, 2007

~ the ultimate driving machine ~
A stock CTR ran 1:42s at gingerman last weekend, breaking FWD time attack records for its class, the class above it, and the class above that.

Despite its ugly rump, it's the best FWD car ever made by a tremendous margin.

EAT FASTER!!!!!!
Sep 21, 2002

Legendary.


:hampants::hampants::hampants:

PaintVagrant posted:

A stock CTR ran 1:42s at gingerman last weekend, breaking FWD time attack records for its class, the class above it, and the class above that.

Despite its ugly rump, it's the best FWD car ever made by a tremendous margin.

The Cadillac or the Yellowbird?

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe

Rhyno posted:

It still looks terrible.

I'm gonna laugh when they drop like $10k in options with wheels, seats, headlights, etc... and only charge $3k less like this guy is saying.

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002

sneakyfrog posted:

honestly I just dont get the appeal of pre-riced.

but then i like to do fun stuff to cars instead of having it done for you, and that one just screams boy racer so hard it would likely get pulled over while parked empty on a street.

i think you're conflating rice with ugly

this car is fast as hell and has the aero bits to make magic happen

rice is superfluous poo poo that makes the car supposedly look like a race car but is of course still slow as hell

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

BraveUlysses posted:

i think you're conflating rice with ugly

this car is fast as hell and has the aero bits to make magic happen

rice is superfluous poo poo that makes the car supposedly look like a race car but is of course still slow as hell

I would rather have a not ugly looking car and bolt more HP and handling onto it rather than that rejected 14 year old me drawing of a car. Ok fine its aero, and hell maybe functional aero but still dog poo poo uglier than some of the worst 2fast2furious bodykits ive seen.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm

sneakyfrog posted:

I would rather have a not ugly looking car and bolt more HP and handling onto it rather than that rejected 14 year old me drawing of a car. Ok fine its aero, and hell maybe functional aero but still dog poo poo uglier than some of the worst 2fast2furious bodykits ive seen.

different strokes

I'd drive an ugly piece of poo poo if it was functional and fast

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

BlackMK4 posted:

different strokes

I'd drive an ugly piece of poo poo if it was functional and fast

well sure, but at that price point i would just get an RS and be done with it.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm

sneakyfrog posted:

well sure, but at that price point i would just get an RS and be done with it.

I'd never spend $35-50k on a hot hatch.

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

BlackMK4 posted:

I'd never spend $35-50k on a hot hatch.

i feel ya there.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

BlackMK4 posted:

I'd never spend $35-50k on a hot hatch.

But you would buy one

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
I bought one for somewhere in the 20k range, remembered why I find newer cars boring and what I could buy for half the amount of money so I sold it and did just that. :v:
Now I have a DD and a backup / track car.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
If I could get a CTR for like... 30 grand, I would be really, really tempted.

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

If I could get a CTR for like... 30 grand, I would be really, really tempted.

Same, but my interest would heavily depend on what they're pulling from it.

PaintVagrant
Apr 13, 2007

~ the ultimate driving machine ~
Hopefully Honda is swapping the wheels for 18s, tossing the head unit/other digital poo poo, and installing a basic bitch black interior with maybe a little red stitching.


In FiST news: cool pic from my last trackday, had some fun battles with the guy in the RS. He was not expecting me to maintain the gap on the straights :clint:

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
LoL, I went to run some numbers at the bank for a FiST and totally forgot that I got identity thefted. My credit got dinged a bit and hasn't recovered just yet.

FBS
Apr 27, 2015

The real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it.

Speaking of the FiST... I've spent most of this week reading up on the Fiesta ST to replace my perfectly fine, comfortable '14 Mazda 3 2.5L auto. Somebody talk me out of it, tell me it's too small, tell me it's not as fun as everybody says.

What should I pay attention to when I go test drive one this weekend? Mostly I want to find out if I can live with it at 6'3" and coming from a nicer interior.

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?
It's a fun car. The interior is really cheap (same as base Fiesta) and depreciates like a motherfucker. Buy used. Also 6' 3" is gonna be pushing it.

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Etrips
Nov 9, 2004

Having Teemo Problems?
I Feel Bad For You, Son.
I Got 99 Shrooms
And You Just Hit One.
Make sure to test drive one without a sunroof.

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