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Kothonless Chalice is probably the best shiftstone to power ratio in the game, but it takes a very particular sort of person to enjoy it, especially in the mirror.
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# ? Oct 13, 2017 19:39 |
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uninverted posted:Kothonless Chalice is probably the best shiftstone to power ratio in the game, but it takes a very particular sort of person to enjoy it, especially in the mirror.
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# ? Oct 13, 2017 20:28 |
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4 Oni Ronin (Set1 #13) 4 Permafrost (Set1 #193) 4 Pyroknight (Set1 #16) 4 Snowcrust Yeti (Set2 #105) 4 Torch (Set1 #8) 4 Champion of Fury (Set2 #187) 4 Rakano Outlaw (Set1 #20) 2 Rockslide (Set2 #189) 4 Polymorph (Set1 #211) 3 Shogun's Scepter (Set1 #26) 4 Vadius, Clan Father (Set2 #191) 3 Wisdom of the Elders (Set1 #218) 3 Obliterate (Set1 #48) 2 Soulfire Drake (Set1 #47) 9 Fire Sigil (Set1 #1) 5 Primal Sigil (Set1 #187) 4 Seat of Fury (Set0 #53) 4 Skycrag Banner (Set2 #186) 4 Diplomatic Seal (Set1 #425) 6-1 in event, only loss to a rakano on the play with a perfect draw.
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# ? Oct 13, 2017 23:12 |
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victrix posted:4 Oni Ronin (Set1 #13) Just used this with a couple card changes due to not having them all. Went 6-3 only losing to two mirrors who drew way better hands and an argenport deck that had a crazy good curve going. So thanks for the solid deck.
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# ? Oct 14, 2017 01:23 |
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How do you find Wisdom of the Elders in that deck? I 7-0'd with this version: 4 Oni Ronin (Set1 #13) 4 Permafrost (Set1 #193) 4 Pyroknight (Set1 #16) 4 Snowcrust Yeti (Set2 #105) 4 Torch (Set1 #8) 4 Champion of Fury (Set2 #187) 2 Kaleb's Favor (Set0 #3) 3 Ornate Katana (Set1 #23) 4 Rakano Outlaw (Set1 #20) 3 Rockslide (Set2 #189) 4 Cinder Yeti (Set1002 #1) 2 Shogun's Scepter (Set1 #26) 3 Vadius, Clan Father (Set2 #191) 2 Crimson Firemaw (Set1002 #3) 3 Obliterate (Set1 #48) 9 Fire Sigil (Set1 #1) 4 Primal Sigil (Set1 #187) 2 Cobalt Monument (Set1 #418) 4 Seat of Fury (Set0 #53) 4 Skycrag Banner (Set2 #186) 2 Diplomatic Seal (Set1 #425) I'm cutting a Katana for another Firemaw. I like Firemaw, costing 4 rather than 5 for the Drake is a big deal, I think. Surviving a torch matters sometimes too. I've been wondering what to do for the Kaleb's Favor/Ornate Katana slots, they feel a bit too low impact, so maybe I'll try Wisdom of the Elders. I don't really like Polymorph in this deck since it leaves behind a blocker for all of the 2/1s. I should go back up to 4 Vadius, though (probably cut a Cinder Yeti).
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# ? Oct 14, 2017 02:12 |
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I didn't ever find a super great time for wisdoms honestly, I usually had something better in hand. I did run 2 pummels though and they pulled some work, so maybe try that. Also, in regards to polymorph, it's about the only low cost removal for SST you can run, so there's that to consider.
Truncated fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Oct 14, 2017 |
# ? Oct 14, 2017 02:25 |
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yeah between titan and tavrod, polymorph is needed in any nonjustice or shadow primal list
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# ? Oct 14, 2017 02:36 |
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oh god how did i get in here i am not good with cards played burn queen and went 7-2, 6-3, 7-2 quote:4 Grenadin Drone (Set1 #5) auric interrogator is completely insane if it gets one honk off of warcry or a weapon Zikan fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Oct 14, 2017 |
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ShadeofBlue posted:How do you find Wisdom of the Elders in that deck? I 7-0'd with this version: Deck could use a Crystallize or two as a win con. Trip report: 2-3 with this list. Ran into two Argenport bart decks that I couldn't deal with the life steal sword plus Bart. meh lazerwolf fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Oct 14, 2017 |
# ? Oct 14, 2017 03:05 |
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I played Argenport Bartholo/Tavrod and went something like 7-1, 7-2, 3-3. I can't remember if Lazerwolf was one of the people I played against. I dusted a fair number of random legendaries to get the Barts in time for this tournament. I actually regret it a little, because while I'd never actually play those legendaries in anything, it was a setback in terms of collection completion. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Oct 14, 2017 |
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Continuing my exploration of color combos, anyone have any favorite Masters level big Combrei and Xenan decks? I've run into them in various flavors, not sure what's considered most competitive at the moment. Gotta figure out which legendary set to make
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# ? Oct 14, 2017 07:29 |
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e - nevermind.
The Ol Spicy Keychain fucked around with this message at 08:37 on Oct 14, 2017 |
# ? Oct 14, 2017 08:19 |
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Went 7-1 with this list yesterday, gonna give it another spin later today. 4 Oni Ronin (Set1 #13) 4 Permafrost (Set1 #193) 4 Pyroknight (Set1 #16) 4 Snowcrust Yeti (Set2 #105) 4 Torch (Set1 #8) 4 Champion of Fury (Set2 #187) 4 Ornate Katana (Set1 #23) 4 Rakano Outlaw (Set1 #20) 2 Rockslide (Set2 #189) 4 Cinder Yeti (Set1002 #1) 4 Shogun's Scepter (Set1 #26) 4 Vadius, Clan Father (Set2 #191) 4 Obliterate (Set1 #48) 8 Fire Sigil (Set1 #1) 5 Primal Sigil (Set1 #187) 4 Seat of Fury (Set0 #53) 4 Skycrag Banner (Set2 #186) 4 Diplomatic Seal (Set1 #425) Cinder Yeti popping Aegis won me a bunch of games, and sometimes just slapping a katana on a one drop wins you the game.
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# ? Oct 14, 2017 11:29 |
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Everyone who posted skycraggro lists on this page left out Mortar and I can't figure out why. Mortar is a good card, and having higher density of burn in skycraggro than you can get by only playing torch and obliterate is really nice. Opponent thinks they're safe because they're on 7 life and you have 5 power? Ho ho ho get mortared and torched. Combrei deck plays out Siraf as a blocker because she can't be torched? Goodbye. p.s. curse you japtor for playing chalice in the event (actually I appreciated the game I lost against you because you played at a fast pace instead of obnoxiously slow like 99% of the jerks who run chalice)
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# ? Oct 14, 2017 12:38 |
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victrix posted:Continuing my exploration of color combos, anyone have any favorite Masters level big Combrei and Xenan decks? I don't have Mystic Ascendant yet so haven't played any Big Combrei but this TJP Scouting Party list is fuckin legit. Refilling with Yeti Spies feels good and making them 3/3s or even worse with Obelisks just makes it even better code:
goferchan fucked around with this message at 12:42 on Oct 14, 2017 |
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BobHoward posted:Everyone who posted skycraggro lists on this page left out Mortar and I can't figure out why. Mortar is a good card, and having higher density of burn in skycraggro than you can get by only playing torch and obliterate is really nice. Opponent thinks they're safe because they're on 7 life and you have 5 power? Ho ho ho get mortared and torched. Combrei deck plays out Siraf as a blocker because she can't be torched? Goodbye. Okay. What would you cut from of my list to make room for it? I'm not arguing that it's a bad card, but it rarely makes the cut. Spending four mana to answer their three drop is not something an aggro deck wants to do.
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# ? Oct 14, 2017 15:26 |
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Playing Dark Roaches VS Feln Control and he played Rain of Frogs T4 and hit my Clockroaches, but also saw the Azindel's Gift in my hand. Turn 6 I had a feeling he was gonna do it again to hit my Gift so I used Second Sight to throw it on top of my deck & sure enough he tried and I only gave him a hand full of sigils and frogs
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# ? Oct 14, 2017 17:09 |
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Okay, I'm going to be super salty, because I played Skycraggro in the Event and had a good streak going, until I ran into a Combrei deck that somehow managed to naturally draw ALL FOUR SSTS. I still almost won that game and probably would have if they'd drawn even one fewer.
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# ? Oct 14, 2017 18:33 |
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did pretty well in the event, ranked 51st after three entries, I hope I stay sub 100. edit: Hmm, already fell to 53rd.
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# ? Oct 14, 2017 18:51 |
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Molybdenum posted:did pretty well in the event, ranked 51st after three entries, I hope I stay sub 100. I was 17th last night, now I’m 45th :/. Hopefully most people finish their 3 runs today and the rankings shift more slowly tomorrow. Oh well, I still did way better than I ever expected to .
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# ? Oct 14, 2017 19:01 |
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So this is my Elysian jank pile: 4 Initiate of the Sands (Set1 #74) 3 Permafrost (Set1 #193) 4 Seek Power (Set1 #408) 2 Friendly Wisp (Set1 #82) 3 Sauropod Wrangler (Set1 #83) 4 Second Sight (Set1 #207) 3 Twinning Ritual (Set1 #79) 4 Ageless Mentor (Set1 #90) 4 Amber Acolyte (Set1 #93) 3 Wisdom of the Elders (Set1 #218) 1 Champion of Wisdom (Set1 #358) 3 Nesting Avisaur (Set1 #225) 1 Sandstorm Titan (Set1 #99) 2 Reliquary Raider (Set1 #110) 2 Twinbrood Sauropod (Set1 #113) 4 Predatory Carnosaur (Set1 #118) 2 Thunderstrike Dragon (Set1 #243) 9 Time Sigil (Set1 #63) 1 Amber Monument (Set1 #420) 7 Primal Sigil (Set1 #187) 1 Cobalt Monument (Set1 #418) 4 Elysian Banner (Set1 #421) 4 Seat of Wisdom (Set0 #63) I think the most obvious upgrades would be Dawnwalkers and more Wisps. At the low rank I'm at I'm not seeing Tavrods and SSTs regularly, but if they become a problem I'll probably want a couple Polymorphs. Not sure how I feel about Sauropod Wranglers yet, they seem like a good fit but I'm often unimpressed by them in game.
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# ? Oct 14, 2017 19:13 |
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Odysseus S. Grant posted:Went 7-1 with this list yesterday, gonna give it another spin later today. Just went 7-1 with this, thx.
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Nibble posted:So this is my Elysian jank pile:
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# ? Oct 14, 2017 20:58 |
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Man I just played a guy in draft that had a full on stranger deck with perfect curve. That sucked but hey I went 3/3 in draft. Best I've ever done so far. Hopefully it means I'm improving.
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JT Jag posted:Before you start crafting more legendaries I'd advise you acquire two Crystallizes and yeah, full sets of Dawnwalker and Wisp. Xenan Obelisk is a real good card too, going forward. I have two Crystallizes but I'm surprised they'd be relevant here. My problem is never closing out a game but rather getting to turn 5-6 at a healthy life total so that I can start dropping dinos and dragons every turn. Obelisk is definitely on my list too, along with Dawnwalker it seems prevalent in a lot of Time decks. I really need to burn through my gold on forge and draft as I'm hesitating to craft anything while I know I have a lot of packs to open yet.
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# ? Oct 14, 2017 21:44 |
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Zikan posted:oh god how did i get in here i am not good with cards This was a great list, thanks! I mashed A-Space to 7-2 in my first run, I'll take another crack at it before the end. Never got to get to Interrogator's favorite part tho
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# ? Oct 14, 2017 22:24 |
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7-2 with blue armory. It really beats up on the argenport decks that everybody is playing. 4 Seek Power (Set1 #408) 4 Torch (Set1 #8) 3 Lightning Storm (Set1 #206) 4 Rakano Artisan (Set1 #312) 3 Vanquish (Set1 #143) 1 Eilyn's Choice (Set2 #220) 3 Sword of Icaria (Set1 #315) 3 Valkyrie Enforcer (Set1 #151) 4 Wisdom of the Elders (Set1 #218) 3 Auric Runehammer (Set1 #166) 2 Reforge (Set2 #23) 3 Rise to the Challenge (Set1 #320) 1 Duelist's Blade (Set2 #226) 4 Harsh Rule (Set1 #172) 3 Throne Warden (Set1 #514) 2 Starsteel Daisho (Set1 #328) 2 Icaria, the Liberator (Set1 #329) 3 Fire Sigil (Set1 #1) 3 Justice Sigil (Set1 #126) 3 Primal Sigil (Set1 #187) 2 Rakano Banner (Set1 #427) 4 Seat of Glory (Set0 #56) 2 Hooru Banner (Set2 #216) 4 Seat of Order (Set0 #51) 4 Seat of Fury (Set0 #53) 1 Skycrag Banner (Set2 #186)
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# ? Oct 14, 2017 22:29 |
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3-3 with praxis tokens and in those six games not once did I draw an obelisk, so that's fun. Final loss was against chalice just to rub it in. I don't even hate chalice as a deck, I just hate how every chalice player seems to have a rate limit of one card every 45 seconds while they play.
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uninverted posted:
I, meanwhile, went 2-3 with that. -Hand (a redraw hand) with 3x Artisan and no weapons, get runover by Hooru fliers while never drawing a weapon or a Rule -Another redraw hand, no kill while he goes Champion of Glory into Lechrai Falcion into Deepforged Plate -Stall out on 3 power, no blue while he Tavrods and various things. Nothing against your list, but luck is a bitch!
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Nosre posted:I, meanwhile, went 2-3 with that. That sucks. On the power vs. consistency scale, this deck favors the former, so you'll wind up with some games where you can't do anything. If there was a better cantrip/card draw for one primal influence than trailblaze, I would seriously consider cutting the wisdom for it and going heavier on rakano influence. As is, you need buttloads of all three of your factions which makes the power base pretty ambitious. Dark armory with no Tavrod is better about this, but if you run Tavrod you have the same problem. uninverted fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Oct 15, 2017 |
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Odysseus S. Grant posted:Okay. What would you cut from of my list to make room for it? My candidates for cuts to make room: 1 obliterate (you don't really want 4-of any high cost cards in skycraggro) 1 shogun's scepter 1-2 ornate katana For what it's worth this is the skycraggro list I've been running. It got me to masters in ranked and in the event I've had a few 7-win runs so far (including a 7-0). I'm pretty sure I stole it from someone who posted it in this thread so please don't mistake this as me taking credit for crafting it: 4 Oni Ronin (Set1 #13) 4 Permafrost (Set1 #193) 4 Pyroknight (Set1 #16) 4 Snowcrust Yeti (Set2 #105) 4 Torch (Set1 #8) 4 Champion of Fury (Set2 #187) 2 Kaleb's Favor (Set0 #3) 3 Ornate Katana (Set1 #23) 4 Rakano Outlaw (Set1 #20) 4 Rockslide (Set2 #189) 4 Vadius, Clan Father (Set2 #191) 2 Morningstar (Set1 #510) 2 Mortar (Set2 #194) 3 Obliterate (Set1 #48) 2 Soulfire Drake (Set1 #47) 8 Fire Sigil (Set1 #1) 5 Primal Sigil (Set1 #187) 4 Seat of Fury (Set0 #53) 4 Skycrag Banner (Set2 #186) 4 Diplomatic Seal (Set1 #425) I think the biggest thing that makes space for some Mortars here is weapons. You're running 8 where this list has only 5. Another interesting difference: this one uses Morningstar rather than Shogun's Scepter. IMO, Scepter is probably better for really early push, but can stall out once blockers like SST start to hit the board. In this list, Morningstar is great at continuing to push damage and/or kill blockers if you can't get the kill super early in the game. (Best carrier for it is Vadius, because 6/5 overwhelm quickdraw aegis is just nasty.)
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# ? Oct 15, 2017 00:52 |
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I have opened two Watcher of the Big Ones from event packs so far, one of which is premium. Clearly the game is telling me to build a dino deck. Has anyone made a successful dino deck with Watcher yet?
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# ? Oct 15, 2017 00:58 |
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I have a bunch of watcher of the big ones as well, but I don't think it's a card for a dino deck. Maybe some kind of weird Student deck (is that even a thing that's real?)?
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It's an explorer in addition to being a dino, which is really good for Evelina decks. I think you run it as a Dino card, or a mentor card. Not both. BobHoward posted:My candidates for cuts to make room: That's a much slower list than the one I'm running, and also doesn't have the Cinder Yetis, which I've come to adore. And while Morningstar is incredibly strong on Vadius, the additional board presence Scepter offers, as well as the extra honks, makes it more well-suited for my hyperaggressive deck. The fact that I run only four cards above 3 power, and no triple influence cards, makes power screw insanely rare. Your list has more staying power, for sure, but my deck kills the opponent dead t5-t6. Odysseus S. Grant fucked around with this message at 11:18 on Oct 15, 2017 |
# ? Oct 15, 2017 11:07 |
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Yeti is so good. Definitely the #1 card from Horus that I personally underestimated -- I would love to slam down that sucker in draft, hope we get a similar role player in Set 3.
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# ? Oct 15, 2017 13:02 |
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Foil twinning ritual makes foils of whatever dude you copy so in legend crownroach I can fool people into thinking I've got foil SST, ayan, BSH, etc. Actually it's pretty cool to see the foil animation in full color.
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# ? Oct 15, 2017 13:33 |
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Props to whoever posted that echo Hero of the People deck waaaay back. I've fiddled a bit with it, and it's actually super consistent, and gave me a solid winstreak push through the latter half of diamond 1. code:
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# ? Oct 15, 2017 14:17 |
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Played through Horus Traver, slotted Cinder Yetis and Firemaw into budget Rakano aggro, went 6-3 in the event. 4 District Infantry (Set1 #134) 4 Finest Hour (Set1 #130) 4 Oni Ronin (Set1 #13) 3 Pummel (Set2 #6) 2 Pyroknight (Set1 #16) 4 Torch (Set1 #8) 3 Champion of Glory (Set1 #314) 4 Crownwatch Paladin (Set1 #139) 4 Ornate Katana (Set1 #23) 4 Rakano Outlaw (Set1 #20) 4 Vanquish (Set1 #143) 3 Cinder Yeti (Set1002 #1) 3 Crownwatch Deserter (Set1 #316) 1 Shogun's Scepter (Set1 #26) 3 Crimson Firemaw (Set1002 #3) 9 Fire Sigil (Set1 #1) 6 Justice Sigil (Set1 #126) 4 Rakano Banner (Set1 #427) 4 Seat of Glory (Set0 #56) 2 Diplomatic Seal (Set1 #425) Yeti's nice because not only is it a solid card, but it adds a bit more decision-making into a deck that's typically just play dudes and turn them sideways (or whatever you call it in Eternal). I might be overvaluing the surprise factor of holding it to exhaust a blocker vs. just playing it out, but I like that that nuance exists.
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# ? Oct 15, 2017 15:44 |
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After a run of 1-3 / 2-3 drafts, I get a 7-2. I was at 6-0 but two games with mana screw cost me a 7-0. Oh well, thems the brakes. One game I had both awakened students and some lands. And really, thats all you need. I was a little worried when my final opponent played the steelfang chakram, but the strategy of never letting them keep a dude on board worked ok.
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Did a final two runs of the Event with Bandit Queen. Went 7-2 and 7-1. Currently I'm 259th. Opened 4 legendaries from packs, Heart of the Vault (4th one!), Makto, Bandit Queen and Sindok, in addition opened a Premium Torrent of Spiders. Gimme all of those premium dire fang spiders!
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