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Rhjamiz posted:What's that? Population crunch? You need more people? 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU_rxvJmDTE
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Oct 15, 2017 20:07
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Can someone summarize for us mobile readers?
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Oct 15, 2017 20:14
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Putin formally declared dead, his daughter trying to seize power but coming to loggerheads with the military. Martian aid is reaching Earth - offers have been made to accept refugees. Oh and there was something in there depicting a celestial God Parrot in regards to FTL travel but who cares, right?
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Oct 15, 2017 20:16
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-Putin's dead for real. -His daughter is trying to take over, something of a reformer which pisses off the military. -Formal invitation to Terran refugees to immigrate to Mars.
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Oct 15, 2017 20:18
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Can I just say let's not get too excited by Putes Mk II being a "reformer". I'd interpret her motive in appearing a moderate to be trying to rally the support of the masses to use as leverage to prevent a coup from a general or admiral. Once she gets power she will follow in her father's footsteps, if there was ever any doubt about that he would have purged her himself years ago.
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Oct 15, 2017 20:31
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Yeah if she was an actual reformer dad would have made drat sure she was nowhere near the chain of succession, much less give her a large fraction of the planet's GDP for her pet project and make her the heir apparent. She's gonna be very much still a Putin.
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Oct 15, 2017 20:36
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Sounds like assumptions being made before proof. Let's give Putin 2.0 a chance to prove herself one way or the other before slamming the door on a promising opportunity.
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Oct 15, 2017 20:38
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Pharnakes posted:Can I just say let's not get too excited by Putes Mk II being a "reformer". I attach no value judgment to the label, the report just said that her attempts or drive for reforms pissed the military off, not that they're any good. eta: "...her actions and proposals for political reform stepped on the military's toes and she [is] heading for big trouble." Gives no info about what form these reforms will take. For all we know she'll try to establish a hereditary imperial dynasty. GunnerJ fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Oct 15, 2017 |
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Oct 15, 2017 20:39
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Or who the hell knows, maybe she really is an idealist who managed to hide it from Senior somehow. But I'm not trusting her until, like, she grants all the colonies independence and steps down in favor of actual elections.
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Oct 15, 2017 20:40
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Crazycryodude posted:Or who the hell knows, maybe she really is an idealist who managed to hide it from Senior somehow. But I'm not trusting her until, like, she grants all the colonies independence and steps down in favor of actual elections. Yup. Not saying we should try to assassinate her or anything, but we really shouldn't rush into bed with her, just because she is currently at loggerheads with the military. If anything I'd be more inclined to trust the military than her.
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Oct 15, 2017 20:44
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Pretty much what I expected. Sometimes wait and see is the best approach.
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Oct 15, 2017 21:01
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POOL IS CLOSED posted:Pretty much what I expected. Sometimes wait and see is the best approach. QFT. 'til the situation changes, we stick to the route we're currently holding and let the Terrans bugger themselves over.
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Oct 15, 2017 21:07
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Crazycryodude posted:Yeah if she was an actual reformer dad would have made drat sure she was nowhere near the chain of succession, much less give her a large fraction of the planet's GDP for her pet project and make her the heir apparent. She's gonna be very much still a Putin. I wouldn't underestimate the parental instinct. It's entirely possible Putin's desire for a dynasty outweighed any political differences they might have had, plus he might have assumed he'd have another 20 or 30 years in office to change her mind or entrench his values deep enough in the Terran bureaucracy that it wouldn't matter. And back when it was started, the FTL project might have been seen as a pie in the sky PR stunt that would keep her distracted while still giving her managerial experience & name recognition.
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Oct 15, 2017 22:39
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Yeah honestly her FTL work is a fairly disturbing element of this given the political and metaphysical ramifications of it.
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Oct 15, 2017 22:59
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Putin's daughter confirmed as pawn of elder gods?
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Oct 15, 2017 23:16
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I mean, if there's any senior UT official who's most likely to have jumped a couple times it's her...
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Oct 15, 2017 23:52
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Crazycryodude is going to male a bunch of weird claims and assumptions and produce whatever heresay he can to support his military-dictatorship-masquerading-as-space-communism agenda. Do not commit the sins of the father to a daughter working to pick up the pieces nof a shattered world. We shoild be helping her not hindering her. It's people like Cryo in the Terran navy who are against her. All they want is to jave a wsr that ends with one planet buring in nuclear fire. We can't let such an attroticity cone to pass. I say agian we should stand with the Terran Remant Government.
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Oct 16, 2017 01:48
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Endorsed by the office of Senator X. Harris
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Oct 16, 2017 01:50
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The brain worms got him.
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Oct 16, 2017 01:51
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Harris is on Terra's side anyway, he would back whatever government was in power there. The one government Harris doesn't back is the Martian government.
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Oct 16, 2017 01:52
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Zaodai posted:Harris is on Terra's side anyway, he would back whatever government was in power there. The one government Harris doesn't back is the Martian government.  thats an awful thing to say. Harris works hard for Mars and humanity.
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Oct 16, 2017 01:54
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Zaodai posted:Harris is on Terra's side anyway, he would back whatever government was in power there. The one government Harris doesn't back is the Martian government. There are strong hints that the patriotic Senator Harris masterminded the IC war. A war which saw the birth of Titan fleet, Martian access to jump technology superior even to UTs and a 50% increase in Martian territory. All thanks to Senator Harris.
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Oct 16, 2017 01:57
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Senator Harris is too good for us.
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Oct 16, 2017 02:06
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LLSix posted:There are strong hints that the patriotic Senator Harris masterminded the IC war. A war which saw the birth of Titan fleet, Martian access to jump technology superior even to UTs and a 50% increase in Martian territory. All thanks to Senator Harris. There are even stronger hints that he engineered the war not to benefit mars, but to benefit whatever shadowy mindfuck cabal he represents. We won in spite of Harris, not because of Harris. gently caress that guy.
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Oct 16, 2017 02:08
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doin a drive-by to say thanks for doing this LP, i'm a sucker for Aurora 4X LPs and i've enjoyed this one very much
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Oct 16, 2017 02:11
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Zaodai posted:There are even stronger hints that he engineered the war not to benefit mars, but to benefit whatever shadowy mindfuck cabal he represents. We won in spite of Harris, not because of Harris. gently caress that guy. Harris organises all that SB support that we needed to win that war. He presented us with options for leading a potential IC insurrection. And he's a cool black ops guy.
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Oct 16, 2017 02:34
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He wanted us to explicitly ignore the popular revolution in favor of acquiring more capital for him and his cronies, and then went on to potentially destroy any goodwill we'd built with the TFS by rescuing his rear end in a top hat buddy from righteous vengeance against our wishes. Sure, the Triumvir then got his skull ventilated anyways, but because he was a loose end for Harris, not because he deserved it. Yes, Harris also stopped Facility from getting torched by tipping us off about the convoy, but that doesn't mean he's a friend. It means that he's opposed to the mainstream Space Illuminati and is forming his own faction instead. All that tech he took from the Triumvir? Yeah, we never actually got any of that. All that money he embezzled from the terraforming fund? Yeah, I bet we're not gonna see any of that ever again either. Harris is building his own secret high tech fuckery fleet somewhere with all the tech and resources he stole under the chaos of the IC war, and I don't trust him to use it for anything other than solidifying his personal power when it gets revealed.
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Crazycryodude posted:He wanted us to explicitly ignore the popular revolution in favor of acquiring more capital for him and his cronies, and then went on to potentially destroy any goodwill we'd built with the TFS by rescuing his rear end in a top hat buddy from righteous vengeance against our wishes. Sure, the Triumvir then got his skull ventilated anyways, but because he was a loose end for Harris, not because he deserved it. Agreed. We should kill Harris.
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Oct 16, 2017 02:41
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Let's clone his butt for the buttmeat jump shields.
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Oct 16, 2017 03:03
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POOL IS CLOSED posted:Let's clone his butt for the buttmeat jump shields. There is not cloning project. Please stop the baseless speculation.
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Oct 16, 2017 03:04
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No. I'll exercise my Martian right to speculate on human meat hull shielding all I like.
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Oct 16, 2017 03:07
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POOL IS CLOSED posted:No. This is explicitly protected in the Martian Constitution.
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Oct 16, 2017 03:13
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Crazycryodude posted:He wanted us to explicitly ignore the popular revolution in favor of acquiring more capital for him and his cronies, and then went on to potentially destroy any goodwill we'd built with the TFS by rescuing his rear end in a top hat buddy from righteous vengeance against our wishes. Sure, the Triumvir then got his skull ventilated anyways, but because he was a loose end for Harris, not because he deserved it. i'm betting that fleet is being built on Eris or the kuiper belt belt
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Oct 16, 2017 03:41
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Tythas posted:i'm betting that fleet is being built on Eris or the kuiper belt belt And that it will save us from the Chaos demons we are unleashing on ourselves at the last moment. Thereby proving Senator "Warcrimes" Harris was a true Martian SuperPatriot all along.
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pthighs posted:This is explicitly protected in the Martian Constitution. Our Constitution is seriously the best!
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Crazycryodude posted:He wanted us to explicitly ignore the popular revolution in favor of acquiring more capital for him and his cronies, and then went on to potentially destroy any goodwill we'd built with the TFS by rescuing his rear end in a top hat buddy from righteous vengeance against our wishes. Sure, the Triumvir then got his skull ventilated anyways, but because he was a loose end for Harris, not because he deserved it. Senator Harris's name is actually Bob Page Also another thing to be aware of the Putina, is not some young girl If its Yekaterina Putina she is 66 years old. If its Mariya Putina she is 67 years old. So while Putin probably never intended to die in a insane Terran Navy destroyer suicide run. If he ever intended for his chosen daughter to succeed him, she has had pretty close to a full lifetime of experience to draw upon. Its not like we are going up against Kim-Jung Un or like Nero young adults pretty suddenly rushed into power. This is a lady who has been involved in important projects and is likely very intelligent and at least knows some fundamentals of government and politicking. Alternately, The only people to I guess become... immune to jump effects were women in our experiments. If we are worried of the possibility that some hostile entity breaking their minds to use them as indoctrinated pawns... it is possible the Putina if she was jumping enough might be a similar sleeper agent, except now she has the potential to take control of the largest human faction in the Sol System. Meaning  Maybe the Watchers in the Walls orchestrated the attack to kill Putin and put one of their puppets on the throne of Earth. Jack2142 fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Oct 16, 2017 |
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Oct 16, 2017 06:12
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Remember the IC captain that was emotionally dead? Perhaps involved in Illuminati Jump Experiments.
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Crazycryodude posted:He wanted us to explicitly ignore the popular revolution in favor of acquiring more capital for him and his cronies, and then went on to potentially destroy any goodwill we'd built with the TFS by rescuing his rear end in a top hat buddy from righteous vengeance against our wishes. Sure, the Triumvir then got his skull ventilated anyways, but because he was a loose end for Harris, not because he deserved it. Harris had a perfectly valid plan to subvert an enemy nation before it became apparent that a successful uprising was even possible. Hell he wanted to support workers' cooperatives in buying out strategic voting shares to take control of the IC. That's far more of a plan for space socialism than paramilitary junta #23, though thankfully it worked out. Mars is a smart, modern nation not a stalinist theme park.
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