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Teenage Fansub posted:Not to be a spoil sport, but I find it real weird that there's a network of people adopting all the SG social media handles and posting in character who aren't Ryan North or whatever Marvel PR folks. Given that those accounts also post the Tweets seen in the recap pages, I'm pretty sure they are run by Marvel.
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Haha. I should have read more than a sentence into the blog description. Never mind.
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I'm surprised it took this long, but there's now an official "comicsgate". It's exactly what you think it is.
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The JMS/JRJr 'Nuff Said issue of Amazing Spider-Man (I think it was Vol. 2 #37) was really good. Joe Casey's Uncanny X-Men one was ok. I forget if I read any others.
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Lurdiak posted:I'm surprised it took this long, but there's now an official "comicsgate". It's exactly what you think it is. It looks as dumb as one would expect...what spurned this one?
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Oct 17, 2017 17:41
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Those goshdurned ess jay dubbayu's aren't making comics as good as they should, and now this "comicsgate" movement gets to reconcile their claims of "the market has spoken and no one wants them" and "we need to make noise and tell people how bad they are."
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good day for a bris posted:It looks as dumb as one would expect...what spurned this one? It stems from that stupid loving guy at Marvel who blamed low sales on diversity last winter.
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Yeah the targeted harassment has been going on for months at least, someone just decided to call it a -gate thing recently
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site posted:Yeah the targeted harassment has been going on for months at least, someone just decided to call it a -gate thing recently Ah, i thought there was Sarkesian-esque tipping point, but it's good know it's just the general fuckery form the last 30 years...
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irlZaphod posted:The JMS/JRJr 'Nuff Said issue of Amazing Spider-Man (I think it was Vol. 2 #37) was really good. I like the Avengers one that tied into the Kang Dynasty story arc.
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good day for a bris posted:Ah, i thought there was Sarkesian-esque tipping point, but it's good know it's just the general fuckery form the last 30 years... Well the poc, women and queer creators have been getting harassment, many of them "based" out of a alt-right comics twitter guy called diversityandcomics, for a long time but i think the gate thing stems from a comic writer/critic named Zainab Akhtar getting so much that she closed down her twitter over the weekend after she criticized a uk con for being incredibly white E: i should add some more context, she criticized and the con promoters went after her personally, calling her slime and such, they got shamed by pretty much all of comics twitter into apologizing, and then after the apology she started getting mass harassment site fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Oct 17, 2017 |
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irlZaphod posted:The JMS/JRJr 'Nuff Said issue of Amazing Spider-Man (I think it was Vol. 2 #37) was really good. I suggest the x-force one by mike allred along with the new x-men.
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Oct 17, 2017 19:48
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Lurdiak posted:It stems from that stupid loving guy at Marvel who blamed low sales on diversity last winter. Nah, these jerkoffs were around before that, he just gave them something to point at and say, "See? We were right!"
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Senior Woodchuck posted:Nah, these jerkoffs were around before that, he just gave them something to point at and say, "See? We were right!" Well yeah, lovely sexist/racist nerds have always been around, but if you're looking for a galvanizing incident like that stupid dipshit who blasted lies about zoe quinn loving everyone in the world and created Gamergate, that rear end in a top hat at Marvel opening his loving mouth is definitely it.
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Lurdiak posted:Well yeah, lovely sexist/racist nerds have always been around, but if you're looking for a galvanizing incident like that stupid dipshit who blasted lies about zoe quinn loving everyone in the world and created Gamergate, that rear end in a top hat at Marvel opening his loving mouth is definitely it. Well, that and the general modern environment that encourages people of that sort to go public as a group, and the modern social media tools that enable them to do damage.
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While the horrible sexist, racist, homophobic b.s. exists, I don't think the term comicsgate is taking off. Like 20 people are using it and you can easily block them all. Hell, half of them are from years ago asking if this is when comicsgate begins. That said, the bullshit is still going strong and social media does nothing to clamp down on it.
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It looks like a bunch of idiots trying to start up a controversy, but no hot topic to base it off of.
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I avoid all comic book controversies by assuming all comic fans are the worst and ignoring them. Except for you guys. You aren't the worst.
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Zoro posted:While the horrible sexist, racist, homophobic b.s. exists, I don't think the term comicsgate is taking off. Like 20 people are using it and you can easily block them all. Hell, half of them are from years ago asking if this is when comicsgate begins. That said, the bullshit is still going strong and social media does nothing to clamp down on it. Twitter maintains a list of actual loving Nazis, but doesn't do anything about it aside from making them invisible to German users.
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Madkal posted:Except for you guys. You aren't the worst. You can't prove that.
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Skwirl posted:Twitter maintains a list of actual loving Nazis, but doesn't do anything about it aside from making them invisible to German users. 
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Madkal posted:You aren't the worst. I read and enjoy Dan Slott comic books.
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Decius posted:I read and enjoy Dan Slott comic books. (in sweaty Mayor Quimby voice)
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Decius posted:I read and enjoy Dan Slott comic books. 
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Speaking of Slott, the only comic I read by him was Arkham: Living Hell which I enjoyed the hell out of. Having never read his Spiderman stuff I think his total output of only one story is excellent.
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Madkal posted:Speaking of Slott, the only comic I read by him was Arkham: Living Hell which I enjoyed the hell out of. Having never read his Spiderman stuff I think his total output of only one story is excellent. That was before 2007, where he became Evil Dan Slott.
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Lurdiak posted:That was before 2007, where he became Evil Dan Slott. This isn't the live action tv thread, but I'm still going to blame that on Barry Allen being an idiot.
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Today Gord Downie from the band Tragically Hip passed away after suffering my brain cancer for over a year. All of Canada knew about this and the band did a farewell tour last year. During that time he also released a solo album called Secret Path, a concept album about a young Aboriginal child named Chanie who was taken away from his family and put into a residential school . The story of Charlie is a true story, and the abuse at the residential schools was real too. Aboriginal children were taken away from their family and forced to "assimilate" into white Canadian culture, often through abuse and neglect. It is a painful part of Canadian history, and a history that many are still coming to terms with now. Downie wrote the album about Chanie in collaboration with Jeff Lemire (yes the Jeff Lemire of every single comic being made right now). Lemire created a graphic novel to go along with the music from the album (with the song lyrics being printed every few pages). The album itself is very sad and at time painful to listen to, and to hear the songs while reading the comic makes the experience even more affecting. Last year the CBC produced a short film animating Lemire's artwork while the music played over the film like a soundtrack. Today Gord Downie, a man who's music touched a lot of Canadians, passed away. Below is a link to that CBC short animated film featuring his music and Lemire's artwork https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGd764YU9yc&t=509s
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Lurdiak posted:Well yeah, lovely sexist/racist nerds have always been around, but if you're looking for a galvanizing incident like that stupid dipshit who blasted lies about zoe quinn loving everyone in the world and created Gamergate, that rear end in a top hat at Marvel opening his loving mouth is definitely it. You could also argue the open letter about that awful Teen Titans cover that focused on Wonder Girl's boobs and the psychotic outrage in response to it. Which was what, 2015?
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Ok yeah today is poo poo. https://twitter.com/bumblesnot/status/920788361555693568
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I always thought I'd read most of the Peanuts strips, but there's so many of them (once a day for 50 years or so) that there must be thousands I've never seen. I thought that Snoopy's siblings other than Spike, Andy and Olaf were created for cartoons; I didn't know until recently that the other ones were in the comic as well.
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Madkal posted:Today Gord Downie from the band Tragically Hip passed away after suffering my brain cancer for over a year. All of Canada knew about this and the band did a farewell tour last year. During that time he also released a solo album called Secret Path, a concept album about a young Aboriginal child named Chanie who was taken away from his family and put into a residential school . The story of Charlie is a true story, and the abuse at the residential schools was real too. Aboriginal children were taken away from their family and forced to "assimilate" into white Canadian culture, often through abuse and neglect. It is a painful part of Canadian history, and a history that many are still coming to terms with now. You said you didn't give a gently caress about hockey and I never saw someone say that before.
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Lightning Lord posted:You said you didn't give a gently caress about hockey and I never saw someone say that before. You've never been outside Canada?
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I made the mistake of talking comics on reddit today. Was talking about Jane Foster and it got annoying. I like Jane Thor and I was talking about some cool things about her as a response to a topic. Some guy tried to claim she was offensive to cancer patients. I said that was missing the point of why she has it. Jason Aaron wants to do a story that talks about mortality as a theme so it's an element of her character. He made some explanations for why things like magic and chemo won't work, at least as long as she wants to be a hero and help people in Thor's absence. Which she needs to because the world needs a Thor because they're are problems and duty only a Thor deals with. And it went on from there and got ridiculous. "The world doesn't need a "Thor." The Avengers could have handled the frost giant invasion." -- him "Do you read the comic? The Avengers were defeated by the Frost Giants! Explicitly!" -- me "Well, then Ice-Man could have done it. He'd be better at fighting Frost Giants than Thor!" -- him "How? His powers only allow to make ice, not manipulate pre-existing ice. So, he'd just be powerless and then get his rear end kicked. Also, he's an X-Men with no ties to the Avengers and poo poo in his own comics to deal with. gently caress, I think he was with the GotG at the time." -- me "Yeah, well, he can't be frozen. Besides, Hercules could completely replace Thor, if need be. Ergo, Jane didn't need to pick up the hammer to be Thor." -- him "Hercules has his own poo poo to deal with. Now he has to protect all ten realms? That's not his shitck. It's not his mythology. At this point, you're just saying Thor shouldn't exist as a concept." --me I should have never responded, but everything he said was so stupid. He, at one point, held the dual positions that Jane was offensive for "going Thor because it ruined her chemo and cancer is serious" and "she should have just used magic to cure it all." Like, you can't hold both opinions. If cancer is serious and needs to be handled with care or its offensive, having her cure herself with magic would be super offensive. Anyway, thought you guys might get a laugh out of this, even if it's just at me being stupid enough to both a) talk comic books on reedit b) respond to an rear end in a top hat and c) be dumb enough to tell people about it.
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Covok posted:I made the mistake of talking comics on reddit today. Was talking about Jane Foster and it got annoying. I like Jane Thor and I was talking about some cool things about her as a response to a topic. Some guy tried to claim she was offensive to cancer patients. I said that was missing the point of why she has it. Jason Aaron wants to do a story that talks about mortality as a theme so it's an element of her character. He made some explanations for why things like magic and chemo won't work, at least as long as she wants to be a hero and help people in Thor's absence. Which she needs to because the world needs a Thor because they're are problems and duty only a Thor deals with. Take my advice: never assume anyone from reddit making GBS threads on Jane Thor is doing it in good faith. Not that you can't criticize her, but there are a lot of people, especially on reddit, twttier, and youtube, who despise her for being a woman and will just take any opportunity to poo poo on her and try to "fight the culture war" or some poo poo.
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Lurdiak posted:Anytime you see someone arguing in such bad faith it's pretty clear what their real problem with something is. And it usually boils down to race, religion, sexuality or gender. Zoro posted:Take my advice: never assume anyone from reddit making GBS threads on Jane Thor is doing it in good faith. Not that you can't criticize her, but there are a lot of people, especially on reddit, twttier, and youtube, who despise her for being a woman and will just take any opportunity to poo poo on her and try to "fight the culture war" or some poo poo. Yeah, I kind of hinted at that a few times. Like I said, "would you be this pedantic about any other hero?" and "I think you just hate the character and want to hate her." But, obviously, I should have just left the sexist to feel like he owned some lib or some poo poo. Like, I knew he was an rear end in a top hat in bad faith, but he was so dumb about it. gently caress, I mean, it's not like she just fights frost giants: she's fighting a war across all the realms! Most heroes have their own poo poo to deal with locally, now they need to deal with poo poo on a scale that large because Thor shouldn't exist, basically? Also, seriously, why say Ice Man and not Johnny Storm because, while a sexist argument, Johnny Storm would be better suited for fighting Frost Giants than any Thor. Also, he really, really hated me saying Jane Thor was stronger than Unworthy Thor because, without the hammer, Unworthy Thor is just not that strong. I'm not saying Thor Odison is weaker, I'm saying Unworthy Thor: Thor Odison sans Mjonir. He kept trying to argue all of the strength of Thor was his own and not the hammer. Yes, I know there are historically conflicting reports on this, actually, but the current comic makes it clear that, sans hammer, he is weaker. Also, it's kind of obvious considering his reasoning for this argument why he would really blister at the notion of a women being more physically powerful than a man. On an unrelated note, Marvel Unlimited answered a question me and my brother have been wondering forever: who the gently caress was Ultimate Thor? Turns out he is Thor Odinson reincarnated as a man after Raganorak and imbued with superpowers from a mix of a supersuit and some genetic alterations from a European Science Bureau, his hammer is the powersource of the suit. Like, seriously, we have been wondering that since 2006 and I thought it'd be eternally unanswered. Turns out they addressed it in 2011.
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