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Inescapable Duck posted:Sounds like they finally realised that CG makes for good movies, but is horrible for TV shows, because new assets are so expensive to make. It's easy to see Sonic Boom and TMNT struggling against the bounds of their budgets. Honestly, Sonic Boom looks totally fine, but it also looks like it has a stupidly high budget and I remember hearing Sony Pictures Animation does the legwork on it nowadays.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Honestly, Sonic Boom looks totally fine, but it also looks like it has a stupidly high budget and I remember hearing Sony Pictures Animation does the legwork on it nowadays. The main characters look great, but there's a lot of moments watching Boom where you can see the budget. Like, for example, any fight scene. Which is fine because Boom is focused more on comedy than action, but it's still noticeable.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Well now I need to finally get around to watching that movie. You don't
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Lick! The! Whisk! posted:You don't Hey, it's not that bad. I certainly liked it more than Wreck-it Ralph.
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VolticSurge posted:Hey, it's not that bad. I certainly liked it more than Wreck-it Ralph. What the loving gently caress? Firstly Wreck-It Ralph is loving incredible. And just to be clear, BH6 is not a bad movie, but it's the definition of a movie you don't need to watch under any circumstances. It is an incredibly mediocre film with some incredibly stellar art direction and that's literally all it has going for it. The characters, plot, dialog....all of it is extremely forgettable. Like if you were to look up the definition of the word "movie" BH6 would be it, it's not bad but it's just so completely unexceptional beyond its really amazing world and art direction.
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big hero 6 spoilers bad guy: I killed your dad! group: OH NO son of dead guy: no!!! i'm going to punch you! group: NO DONT DO THAT, WE'RE MORE MAD AT YOU NOW
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Quest For Glory II posted:big hero 6 spoilers Yeah, it's literally stuff like that in which it makes the entire movie feel like it was built from a kit. Like if there was some mythical place that sold "Do-It-Yourself Animated Action Movies", that would be the result. It's the most generic thing in the world.
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Lick! The! Whisk! posted:What the loving gently caress?
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Well they needed to switch protagonists because they forgot to write a real resolution to Ralph's main issue of never getting any respect from his peers because of his job.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Well they needed to switch protagonists because they forgot to write a real resolution to Ralph's main issue of never getting any respect from his peers because of his job. I understand that. I just wish they made the actual protagonist someone who wasn't so loving grating.
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Uhhhh what the gently caress https://twitter.com/cartoonbrew/status/920437246754545664 I knew there'd be some outings of shitheads in animation after the Weinstein saga but this one I didn't expect
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Sure explains a lot about its fanbase.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Well they needed to switch protagonists because they forgot to write a real resolution to Ralph's main issue of never getting any respect from his peers because of his job. The resolution is that the Nicelanders learn to respect and appreciate Ralph both as an individual and for the inglamorous but necessary work he does while Ralph finds fulfillment in his work knowing that he is useful and important and that he has actual friends to come home to every night. It's like the first line of the movie: He's a Bad Guy, but that doesn't mean he's a bad guy.
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The problem was that the people of the building didn't really get any comeuppance or acknowledge that they did Ralph wrong, Felix just wound up talking them into not being complete dicks to their coworker for mostly unrelated reasons. The themes of the movie tie in more to Q-Bert's story arc than Ralph's.
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I never watched Wreck-it Ralph are joking around or serious when you say Q-Bert's story arc.
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Quest For Glory II posted:Uhhhh what the gently caress For some reason I'm not surprised. Still, must suck considering his show was really taking off. Doesn't excuse that kind of behavior though.
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SlothfulCobra posted:The problem was that the people of the building didn't really get any comeuppance or acknowledge that they did Ralph wrong, Felix just wound up talking them into not being complete dicks to their coworker for mostly unrelated reasons. It's worse than that, I think. There was a part of the movie where Ralph goes back to his world to find everyone else is gone except the rear end in a top hat Nicelander. They have a talk which boils down to, "Hey, jerk, maybe if you didn't selfishly try to improve your lot on life then maybe us good guys wouldn't be suffering like this!" "My gosh, he's RIGHT! I shouldn't have done what I did!" It's why the ending of Wreck-It Ralph feels weird to me, since it can be read as "Ralph learns his place and stops trying to find a better life out there in the world." Lick! The! Whisk! posted:Yeah, it's literally stuff like that in which it makes the entire movie feel like it was built from a kit. Like if there was some mythical place that sold "Do-It-Yourself Animated Action Movies", that would be the result. It's the most generic thing in the world. I feel like BH6 might have been better if Disney took the risk and renamed it Baymax, removed all the superhero stuff, and made it a movie about a kid learning to deal with the loss of a loved one with the help of Baymax and friends.
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Quest For Glory II posted:Uhhhh what the gently caress http://www.cartoonbrew.com/artist-r...ive-154068.html quote:UPDATE: An artist who requested anonymity has shared a story with Cartoon Brew about an earlier incident that involved Savino at Nickelodeon: fuuuuuuuuck 
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Go gently caress the gently caress off, Chris. another reason to keep bringing in new blood and not let cronies hang around
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TheGamerGuy23 posted:I somehow have the feeling this poo poo with Savino is just hot air and fake news. Whatever gives you that impression?
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TheGamerGuy23 posted:I somehow have the feeling this poo poo with Savino is just hot air and fake news.
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Cartoon Brew isn't the most journalistic integrity-y of sites but this seems legit
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Lick! The! Whisk! posted:What the loving gently caress? I didn't feel it was "generic" at all, it was a fun movie with cute characters that doesn't deserve all these paragraphs of vitriol. That said, having last seen it when it came out, I could barely tell you anything about the plot, and I admittedly forgot it existed until now. Guy Mann posted:The resolution is that the Nicelanders learn to respect and appreciate Ralph both as an individual and for the inglamorous but necessary work he does while Ralph finds fulfillment in his work knowing that he is useful and important and that he has actual friends to come home to every night. No, the resolution is that Ralph learns that it's better to know his place and to eat poo poo, because if he wants anything better for himself it will make things uncomfortable for the people that look down on him. And that's a bad thing. Remember, kids: don't rock the boat. raditts fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Oct 18, 2017 |
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TheGamerGuy23 posted:I somehow have the feeling this poo poo with Savino is just hot air and fake news. Cool post, the gamer gater twenty three.
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TwoPair posted:The main characters look great, but there's a lot of moments watching Boom where you can see the budget. Like, for example, any fight scene. Which is fine because Boom is focused more on comedy than action, but it's still noticeable. I was thinking more the settings and additional characters; you know they're scraping when the deliberately blandly designed background characters (At least, I hope that was on purpose) start having episodes of their own and appearing in random roles, and they have enough trouble establishing a sense of place given they re-use the same settings so much. (Last I checked, anyway) TMNT similarly struggles in early episodes where New York is a ghost town.
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Anne Walker Farrell, a director on Bojack Horseman posted a twitter thread a few months ago talking about harassment in the animation industry, and then confirmed today that one of the people she was talking about was Savino. https://twitter.com/lemurmcfemur/status/900200317035454465
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Inescapable Duck posted:I was thinking more the settings and additional characters; you know they're scraping when the deliberately blandly designed background characters (At least, I hope that was on purpose) start having episodes of their own and appearing in random roles, and they have enough trouble establishing a sense of place given they re-use the same settings so much. (Last I checked, anyway) TMNT similarly struggles in early episodes where New York is a ghost town. I'm reminded of a screenshot where Knuckles was shown walking down the street arm in arm with two completely identical girls, the model of which happened to have gotten a starring role in an episode previously and was designed as an important NPC in the game. They apparently handwaved it as her having an identical twin sister, but. Yeah. Boom is super cheap.
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TheGamerGuy23 posted:I somehow have the feeling this poo poo with Savino is just hot air and fake news. Just like with Skylar Page, Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, Donald Trump, etc etc etc amirite? Those wily  just trying to keep a man's career down.
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raditts posted:No, the resolution is that Ralph learns that it's better to know his place and to eat poo poo, because if he wants anything better for himself it will make things uncomfortable for the people that look down on him. And that's a bad thing. At the end, they put his figurine on the cake, and it has a medal, which seems to imply that they've learned to accept him. They certainly could have given that plot point a bit more attention, though.
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Is this like when people claimed the boxtrolls movie was anti-adoption even though the boy's human dad is depicted as being in a fugue state for much of his time in the film, and the girl's biological dad was depicted as hugely ignorant and oblivious to his daughter, and huge pains are made to point out that boxtroll dad is a really good dad and the biological fathers of the main characters are not in their lives, and the entire film is about the boy doing everything in his power to rescue his adoptive family, and he and the boxtrolls all live happily together in the end, and the whole point of the film is that family can be defined however you like
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Kaliedoscope posted:Whatever gives you that impression? EDIT: And I'm not saying it's totally 100% fake and there's no other way to look at it, but I just feel suspicious. I don't want it to be true but I'll accept it if it's proven to be so, and until things progress, I won't assume it's all fact. People are already calling him a monster without sufficient proof of anything having gone down. TheLoneStar fucked around with this message at 13:52 on Oct 18, 2017 |
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The Ayshkerbundy posted:Cartoon Brew isn't the most journalistic integrity-y of sites but this seems legit Amid Amidi may be a blowhard, but when CB breaks this kind of stuff, they tend to be right, because it's an industry insider site (c.f. Skyler Page and other news they've had first).
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kefkafloyd posted:Amid Amidi may be a blowhard, but when CB breaks this kind of stuff, they tend to be right, because it's an industry insider site (c.f. Skyler Page and other news they've had first). Incidentally Emily Partridge (victim of the SP incident) called the Skyler Page article "gross and sensationalist"
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Calling things "literally who" really doesn't boost your credibility as a skeptic on this topic.
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TheGamerGuy23 posted:Well for one thing, the original story cropped up form a Literally Who? news source that's shown to be unreliable in the past, and there's been no confirmation thus far that Savino's actually been suspended. And so far no evidence has actually come forward. Even the Weinstein case had that. I suppose it's too early to tell, though, and we'll have to wait a few days. By the way, you know how you can disprove Savino's suspension? By going "he's right here next to me" if you work at the studio. It would be extravagantly dumb (but not out of the realm of CB) to make a claim that can be disproven that easily unless Amid was 2000% confident in his sources. That's why celebrity death hoaxes get snuffed out within 15 minutes of reporting nowadays. on gamergate, many of the initial Gamergate sock puppets, before the Gamergate movement had its name, went after Emily Partridge during the Clarence saga. same tactics, same harassment, same garbage. Of course they'd show up, AGAIN. The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Oct 18, 2017 |
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Quest For Glory II posted:Hi, everyone. Literally Who is a GamerGate moniker initially used to describe Zoe Quinn but also used to refer to general victims of harassment. i thought I'd share this STRANGE COINCIDENCE. Literally Who? long predates gamergate, but since it's common vernacular on 4chan and since gamergate originated there it's not surprising that gamergaters would use it (even though this is the first time I've seen someone assume it's purely a gamergate thing.)
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Gamergate's literally the first auto suggested word when you type literally who into google. Nobody who uses that phrase is using it to make good faith arguments, even if they were just an idiot 4chan kid. In this case, the poster's usage of Literally Who is referring to either the anonymous story in the article or the Bojack Horseman director who mentioned Savino on Twitter. It's exactly the usage that is meant to dehumanize the victims. I wish I saved the screencaps of the kinds of things said at Emily Partridge after she shared her story about Skylar Page. She got vile, vile treatment from the internet before Cartoon Brew even picked up the story. I want this sort of thing to blow open the doors. Rip the bandaid off. Examine the problems of our industry's culture, if we ever want to make real tangible progress. Give other women (and men/NB too) the courage to share their tales without fear of blackballing (a legitimate threat in animation). Emily for example wasn't even a staffer on Clarence (she worked on Adventure Time), if Skyler was her superior, the power dynamic at play would have turned things into a nightmare. You'd basically be ending your career to point the finger. I want that guillotine to be dismantled and taken away. The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Oct 18, 2017 |
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Quest For Glory II posted:Gamergate's literally the first auto suggested word when you type literally who into google. Nobody who uses that phrase is using it to make good faith arguments, even if they were just an idiot 4chan kid. In this case, the poster's usage of Literally Who is referring to either the anonymous story in the article or the Bojack Horseman director who mentioned Savino on Twitter. It's exactly the usage that is meant to dehumanize the victims. Yeah I get that's what's happening here. It's just the first time I've heard it in a GG context before
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Quest For Glory II posted:Literally Who is a GamerGate moniker initially used to describe Zoe Quinn but also used to refer to general victims of harassment. i thought I'd share this STRANGE COINCIDENCE. It's just the dumb internet redux of calling someone a nobody or small time, it's been around a lot longer than them. Quest For Glory II posted:In this case, the poster's usage of Literally Who is referring to either the anonymous story in the article or the Bojack Horseman director who mentioned Savino on Twitter. It's exactly the usage that is meant to dehumanize the victims. Also what, it looked like they were just using it in reference to Cartoon Brew, I don't even agree with the dumb things they're saying but this seems like a weird reading, even when I otherwise agree with your sentiment that it should obviously be made much easier to come forward about people in power being abusive. Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Oct 18, 2017 |
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