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tesilential posted:At least go google "boil" Id rather die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just kidding. youre right and im wrong
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Fat Twitter Man posted:I'm infected with aids Aleksander Emelienanko? Or was that Hep C that kept him from fighting in the U.S.?
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Fat Twitter Man posted:I'm infected with aids I gently caress every day
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Untrustable posted:Aleksander Emelienanko? Or was that Hep C that kept him from fighting in the U.S.? Hep C was the official unofficial rumour. But it's loving Aleksander, he probably has black death or Russian super aids. That's a thing, right?
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tesilential posted:It wasn't in his blood. A boil is basically a giant painful pimple usually confined to a pore(s). idgi, a boil isn't the same as staph at all 
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Oct 18, 2017 09:16
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BJJ magic at ATT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkqIe3eK83I
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Radical 90s Wizard posted:idgi, a boil isn't the same as staph at all Boils are staph and/or other bacteria infecting hair follicles, aka what Kevin lee had on his chest from shaving his pecs.
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I just asked a doctor- A staph infection can be in the skin, and it can spread to the blood. If it's at the "boil" stage it's probably not in the blood. If it becomes bacteremic, i.e. gets into the blood) it's likely that he'd be way way way too hosed up to fight, being septic and all.
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Oct 18, 2017 14:02
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Zactly. Kevin wouldn't be walking with a blood infection.
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Oct 18, 2017 14:29
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Also a shower is exactly how to remove another person's dermal flora after close athletic contact - emulsify all of those oils and rinse em away with the kooties in there. Regular soap is good, but in a case like this, in which skin-to-skin staph exposure is confirmed and damaged skin is almost certain, chlorhexedine is probably the way to go.
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Oct 18, 2017 14:49
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We could argue about who understands the medical details of staph all day, but ultimately it would still be stupid of the NSAC not to do anything about this, just because Lee blatantly committed perjury on a form of theirs and admitted to it publicly immediately after and letting that slide would be a bad precedent.
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Bluedeanie posted:We could argue about who understands the medical details of staph all day, but ultimately it would still be stupid of the NSAC not to do anything about this, just because Lee blatantly committed perjury on a form of theirs and admitted to it publicly immediately after and letting that slide would be a bad precedent. Exactly. Also UFC medical probably knew. He hid it from the AC. The UFC had some sort of idea because they were telling DC to shut up about it.
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Bluedeanie posted:it would still be stupid of the NSAC not to do anything about this Ah ok, so nothing will happen.
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kimbo305 posted:Ah ok, so nothing will happen. Im not saying they will, just that it will be stupid of them not to.
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Oct 18, 2017 15:48
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He committed purjury! 
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Oct 18, 2017 16:01
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What kind of loser do you have to be to, as a grown man, stomp your feet and demand strangers get in trouble for the crime of not pulling out of a fight for you to watch lol.
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lol ikr
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tesilential posted:Zactly. Kevin wouldn't be walking with a blood infection. I assure you that you can The NSAC medic noted that Kevin was tachycardic, but his blood pressure was pretty normal. If the elevated heart rate was due to severe dehydration, usually you see a compensatory response with massive amounts of catecholamines (ie adrenaline/noradrenaline) so you can get an insane heart rate and relatively normal blood pressure because the body is constricting peripheral circulation. You can't really delineate a sweaty guy with a messed up heart rate because he has a bad infection from one that has hypertiramisic dehydration, especially if you have no reason to suspect infection. But on the balance of probabilities he was just dehydrated and since he didn't look faint and an nsac doctor's job is to make the nsac money without anyone dying they didn't do anything massively wrong or negligent letting him squeeze out an extra lb. He had a bump on his chest covered in makeup and was dehydrated. If the blogosphere cries about this particular case enough all that happens is they call Kevin Lee in for a hearing because he made them look bad and gets a time served suspension and his pay cheque takes a haircut. Anyway I'm going back to the gym. Later
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Work Friend Keven posted:What kind of loser do you have to be to, as a grown man, stomp your feet and demand strangers get in trouble for the crime of not pulling out of a fight for you to watch lol. Cool, except I am not saying he should get in trouble, I am saying it would be a stupid precedent for the nsac to do nothing and just let people say whatever on their medical forms
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Oct 18, 2017 16:24
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Oh right, it's The Rules. Where's your hall pass.
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Work Friend Keven posted:What kind of loser do you have to be to, as a grown man, stomp your feet and demand strangers get in trouble for the crime of not pulling out of a fight for you to watch lol. I feel like "reckless endangerment" might be a real-life crime But to be honest I'd rather see the UFC punished than Kevin, since Dana going after fighters who drop for medical reasons could constitute creating an unsafe work environment. Vengarr fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Oct 18, 2017 |
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Oct 18, 2017 16:50
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Vengarr posted:I feel like "reckless endangerment" might be a real-life crime Kicking someone in the head is a lot more recklessly endangering than maybe getting them with a little germs
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Oct 18, 2017 17:04
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If the boil popped he essentially “raped” him, which I feel is a real-life crime
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I wonder if a staph boil popping mid-fight would fall under the jurisdiction of the new DQ for pissing or making GBS threads yourself rule
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Bluedeanie posted:Cool, except I am not saying he should get in trouble, I am saying it would be a stupid precedent for the nsac to do nothing and just let people say whatever on their medical forms its better not to blame the fighter here cos theres a lot of pressure to show up and do your job when you can lose it at any time for any reason. they should have caught it during the medical check or then whats the point in having them
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Oct 18, 2017 17:25
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They didn't catch it at the medical check because he actively concealed it from them.
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I.N.R.I posted:its better not to blame the fighter here cos theres a lot of pressure to show up and do your job when you can lose it at any time for any reason. they should have caught it during the medical check or then whats the point in having them That is also fair. I just also think whats the point in requiring fighters to sign disclosures if theres no incentive to be truthful on them
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The best-case (see: funniest) scenario is that we get a fightpass broadcast NSAC meeting (which they don't do anymore  ) in which Kevin Lee cites on record what Dana did to Amanda Nunes and others as the reason that he didn't withdraw or disclose.
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Oct 18, 2017 17:32
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Mr. Nice! posted:They didn't catch it at the medical check because he actively concealed it from them. im sure weve all used foundation to hide a hickey or something when we were teenagers but hiding a 2-3 inch diameter boil from a physical examiner seems a bit challenging
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lot of pissy eyes around here about something nobody else gives a poo poo about. lets talk about how "fat" george st. pierre is again...chunker
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Mr. Nice! posted:They didn't catch it at the medical check because he actively concealed it from them. He’s not a doctor he didn’t know what it was for sure
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If by some miracle Jones gets a slap on the wrist, Dana 'owes him a fight'quote:The United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) has yet to decide on the fate of Jon Jones’ fighting career. After his second PED-related drug test failure that happened at UFC 214 last July, the former UFC light heavyweight champion is facing a possible four-year suspension. Doesn't Dana cancel contracts for pettier reasons than '3 drug pops in as many years'? Maybe Jones has a better contract than the average $10k win/show journeyman but come on, Dana's done better people much dirtier.
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If the notorious Jon Jones doesn't get a fight if his suspension is overturned, I would be shocked. His name recognition will be at an all time high and the UFC will cast him as the heel.
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red19fire posted:If by some miracle Jones gets a slap on the wrist, Dana 'owes him a fight' It's because he doesn't want Jones as a free agent fighting for other promotions. From what I've gleaned from the Nick Diaz stuff, the contracts have a clause that the UFC needs to periodically offer fights if the fighter is eligible, or else the contract is void. What this whole thing means is that if Jones becomes eligible again, an offer will come. Scott Coker doesn't get an erection at the thought of signing Josh Grispi, so Josh Grispi gets the boot. But Dana needs to keep a tighter leash on guys like Jones or even Josh Barnett, who have value as commodities to the competition. The UFC has too much to lose in terms of finance and legitimacy if Jones ends up in Bellator or Rizin - arguably more than they have to lose by keeping him on the roster.
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kensei posted:If the notorious Jon Jones doesn't get a fight if his suspension is overturned, I would be shocked. His name recognition will be at an all time high and the UFC will cast him as the heel. Problem with Jones is even if he's cleared you just know he's going to pop the next time again to be cleared again. You can't have faith in "THIS TIME IT WILL BE OK"
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Bluedeanie posted:Cool, except I am not saying he should get in trouble, I am saying it would be a stupid precedent for the nsac to do nothing and just let people say whatever on their medical forms I'm saying NSAC is stupid and only cares about money.
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Auron posted:lot of pissy eyes around here about something nobody else gives a poo poo about. Yeah. You can tell it's got bad when work friend keven has to do a non joke post
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Fight physicals are basically WWII army physicals. Are you dead? Maybe? Whatever here is some Tylenol, praise Jesus.
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I.N.R.I posted:im sure weve all used foundation to hide a hickey or something when we were teenagers but hiding a 2-3 inch diameter boil from a physical examiner seems a bit challenging He had makeup on for the weigh in, too. There's no reason to believe that he couldn't get it covered well enough to pass. The doc isn't necessarily touching them for any more than to check for vitals. Skip My Posts posted:He’s not a doctor he didn’t know what it was for sure He was on antibiotics for it. He knew exactly what was on his chest.
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Mr. Nice! posted:He had makeup on for the weigh in, too. There's no reason to believe that he couldn't get it covered well enough to pass. The doc isn't necessarily touching them for any more than to check for vitals. He’s not a doctor. What are antibiotics
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