Star Citizen: Death of a Space Thread?

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tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

ManofManyAliases posted:

LOL. If derek can get 64 players in the same instance ~~- concurrently~~, I'll eat my belt.

Superfluous use of a technical term.

You definitely work for CIG.

krytentax

tooterfish fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Oct 18, 2017

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Jobbo_Fett: Mar 7, 2014; Slava Ukrayini; Clapping Larry

kilus aof posted:

CIG are sharpening their whale harpoons.

"Yeah, we don't know what it is either, but please buy it"

# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:18

Jobbo_Fett: Mar 7, 2014; Slava Ukrayini; Clapping Larry

tooterfish posted:

Superfluous use of a technical term.

You definitely work for CIG.

But its repeated twice to double the emphasis the second time.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:19

Viscous Soda: Apr 24, 2004

Virtual Captain posted:

Update 3.0.0e, October 18

quote:
Fixed an issue where all ships were available in all game modes of Arena Commander

A bug that allows the beta testers to actually use all the ships in the testing? Can't have that, priority fix!

# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:22

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

Jobbo_Fett posted:

"Yeah, we don't know what it is either, but please buy it"

That's the Pioneer, quite likely the "game changer" Ben was all excited about. It's probably going to be the ship you need to buy to setup outposts in planets. If so, it'll make millions.

e: yeah, it is

# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:29

Quavers: Feb 26, 2016; You clearly don't understand game development

Citizens are touting the newly revealed Consolidated Outland Pioneer jpeg as being the "game changer" ship. It might one day build outposts and whatnot. If they get planets working. With more than 16 players per server. At a decent FPS. Without crashing every electrical device within a 5 mile radius.

The Coutt's question: how much are CIG gonna milk the whales for one at CitizenCon?

$1k?
$2k?
$3k?
More?

# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:30

thatguy: Feb 5, 2003

How long will it take before Derek makes a post saying he'll be at TwitchCon only to not go and then never speak of it again?

# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:31

D_Smart: May 11, 2010; by FactsAreUseless; College Slice

SomethingJones posted:

Here, Chris will explain it to you

From 10 for the Chairman: Episode 77
Feb 29, 2016 @ 02:29

Q: What type of work is being done to increase the server population capacity? Should we expect to see 24 or 32 player instances in the near future?

A: The answer to that is ABSOLUTELY, I think, ah, if you've been watching some of the chatter on the recent, ah, PTU RELEASES, and, ah, you know, what's gonna be in 2.2... eh, it is, ah, gonna be 24 players, so we've been working, ah, ah, HARD on sort of optimizing areas so we can sort of scale more, I think I've mentioned before that the, you know, the biggest issue that we have is uhm, uh, just the overhead that the ships have because they're very complicated, they have multiple... items that have all this functionality, they need to talk to each other over the network... they're attached to SHIPS, a ship isn't just one entity you know, in the case of a HORNET it can be fifty or sixty, in the case of a BIGGER ship it's a lot more than... fifty or sixty, so they're very heavy, ah, sort of PROCESSING WISE and the SERVER in terms of just SIMULATION and also in... in network, um, sort of TRAFFIC...

So, in general, that's, em, you know, more the limiting... FACTOR which... we've been WORKING ON, so we're... we're REFACTORING a lot of things to... make it much more, ah, SMART about when it has to UPDATE, ah, and all the other things and that sort of ties into the work that we've done in the past on the ZONE SYSTEM, we're doing sort of a, uh, whatever you wanna call it, a NETWORK LOD and an UPDATE LOD that sort of scopes depending on, you know, whether you can SEE THINGS, how FAR AWAY they are, whether they are ACTIVE, whether it's another PLAYER, whether it's relevant to YOU and... so hopefully all that stuff em, you know, helps... increase the load that we can do and we're doing things like we're... we're... you know, pushing more and more into MULTIPLE CORES, more... MULTI-THREADING to, you know, be able to do more... you know... PHYSICS PROCESSING at the same time as we're doing more sort of entity updating and simulation.

So ehm you know, part of the benef... part of the result of that is moving to more players in, eh, CRUSADER, we'll continue and we're expecting to continue to sort of push that over time, eh, to get more and more and uh, you know we're actually working on... some ah, BACK END SERVER MESH TECH uhm, that will allow us to ah, sort of MESH A LOT MORE... players all in essentially what will be kind of sort of the same, ah, INSTANCE, uhm so but that's sort of ah, you know a LITTLE further along, but, eh, it's ahh... yeah, I think EXCITING so I think we'll be able to DELIVER probably more players than we were thinking originally... in concurrent areas... ah... so... when I think, actually there's a question about that so... I maybe talk a bit more about it then...

This was PERFECT timing! I was already writing an article about their MMO bullshit. Then I saw this post - and used it.

BREAKING! CIG dev confirms Star Citizen may NEVER be an MMO. I wrote about it

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# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:32

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

Quavers posted:

Citizens are touting the newly revealed Consolidated Outland Pioneer jpeg as being the "game changer" ship. It might one day build outposts and whatnot. If they get planets working. With more than 16 players per server. At a decent FPS. Without crashing every electrical device within a 5 mile radius.

The Coutt's question: how much are CIG gonna milk the whales for one at CitizenCon?

$1k?
$2k?
$3k?
More?

It's not a mil-ship so less than a grand. $950 is my guess.

If they finally start selling plots of land then they may have a more expensive bundle.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:32

D_Smart: May 11, 2010; by FactsAreUseless; College Slice

Zest posted:

Realtalk: Derek, things like this are why I like you. TBF, I'm actually enjoying learning and playing UC, so there's that .

heh thanks.

Also, which version of the game do you have? UCCE 2.0 or 3.0 (The Lyrius Conflict)?

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# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:33

Jobbo_Fett: Mar 7, 2014; Slava Ukrayini; Clapping Larry

trucutru posted:

That's the Pioneer, quite likely the "game changer" Ben was all excited about. It's probably going to be the ship you need to buy to setup outposts in planets. If so, it'll make millions.

e: yeah, it is

Its easy to change your game when you haven't finished it yet.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:33

Jobbo_Fett: Mar 7, 2014; Slava Ukrayini; Clapping Larry

thatguy posted:

How long will it take before Derek makes a post saying he'll be at TwitchCon only to not go and then never speak of it again?

Right after he breaks the news that CIG has revealed a new ship call the Pioneer and how its going to be a gamechanger.

Like a loving hack.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:34

D_Smart: May 11, 2010; by FactsAreUseless; College Slice

Corn Nuts posted:

When you realize the con
And the refunds are gone
That's an ELE

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# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:34

Variable 5: Apr 17, 2007; We do these things not because they are easy, but because we thought they would be easy.; Grimey Drawer

thatguy posted:

How long will it take before Derek makes a post saying he'll be at TwitchCon only to not go and then never speak of it again?

He's boycotting, since he found out he got snubbed for the panels despite being the curator of the space sim genre.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:37

Incitatus: Dec 16, 2005; The Meat Man was out of wings, Mr. William Ash More!

ManofManyAliases posted:

LOL. If derek can get 64 players in the same instance - concurrently, I'll eat my belt.

Quotin' this for the :toxx:

# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:43

D_Smart: May 11, 2010; by FactsAreUseless; College Slice

McGiggins posted:

Thread: if Derek does 64 player ucce update eventually as he currently tentatively and provisionally plans to do, will anyone want to play it as a thing for everyone to participate in?

It seems like it could actually be a fun thing to do, and seeing as it will be a while before he does such a thing, it could be the perfect ending to round out the star citizen experience.

uhm, I already did that in Universal Combat (2004) and Universal Combat CE (2007) :colbert:

I dropped it from the 2009 release of UCCE 2.0 (which became the basis of the 2015 version currently on Steam) because I couldn't be bothered to merge the multiplayer, then have to support it. My decision to start designing Line Of Defense that year, coupled with my involved/investment in Alganon, also were a factor.

But for the on-going 3.0, I will implement it as a paid DLC depending on demand. I mention it my latest dev update.

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# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:46

Roflan: Nov 25, 2007

Don't you have to have a game before you can change it?

Also, if one ship can be such a big deal that it can be call a 'game changer' then it is the definition of unbalanced.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:47

Goosfraba: Feb 26, 2016

ManofManyAliases posted:

LOL. If derek can get 64 players in the same instance - concurrently, I'll eat my belt.

concurrent
adjective
1.
occurring or existing simultaneously or side by side:
concurrent attacks by land, sea, and air.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:49

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

Roflan posted:

Don't you have to have a game before you can change it?

Also, if one ship can be such a big deal that it can be call a 'game changer' then it is the definition of unbalanced.

What they mean is that the game will change from a wing commander-inspired MMO into space minecraft

# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:50

Jobbo_Fett: Mar 7, 2014; Slava Ukrayini; Clapping Larry

Goosfraba posted:

concurrent
adjective
1.
occurring or existing simultaneously or side by side:
concurrent attacks by land, sea, and air.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:53

D_Smart: May 11, 2010; by FactsAreUseless; College Slice

kilus aof posted:

All 3.0 leak footage should be uploaded to Pornhub so CIG have to log onto Mae Demming's account to DMCA it.

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# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:53

D_Smart: May 11, 2010; by FactsAreUseless; College Slice

ManofManyAliases posted:

LOL. If derek can get 64 players in the same instance - concurrently, I'll eat my belt.

You should live stream it.

God I wish you had :toxx:

for this. The fallout would have been hilarious; seeing as I had that working back in 2004.

And unlike you retards at CIG, I actually built it using ReplicaNet, instead of reinventing the wheel.

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# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:58

SelenicMartian: Sep 14, 2013; Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

kilus aof posted:

CIG are sharpening their whale harpoons.

Space F-8 Crusader?

Virtual Captain posted:

Update 3.0.0e, October 18

"replaceme" balls

# ? Oct 18, 2017 18:58

Nanako the Narc: Sep 6, 2011

POOL IS CLOSED posted:

When will one of you set up a crowd funded game concept that's like catnip to these guys? Someone here should learn all the lessons CIG has taught and make some bank.

Sadly, all the backers of Star Citizen have latched on to SC and are holding fast regardless of whether or not the ship is sinking. It's a bit like a trawler sweeping the sea with a giant net and catching all the fish, sure, a second one could come around and maybe catch the few that the first one missed, but the first one will have the largest amount of fish because it got there first.

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Sabreseven: Feb 27, 2016

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:04

POOL IS CLOSED: Jul 14, 2011; I'm just exploding with mackerel. This is the aji wo kutta of my discontent.; Pillbug

Latin Pheonix posted:

Sadly, all the backers of Star Citizen have latched on to SC and are holding fast regardless of whether or not the ship is sinking. It's a bit like a trawler sweeping the sea with a giant net and catching all the fish, sure, a second one could come around and maybe catch the few that the first one missed, but the first one will have the largest amount of fish because it got there first.

But the Lethalities will cling to multiple doomed ships. Like krakens of failure.

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Sabreseven posted:

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ManofManyAliases: Mar 21, 2016; ToastOfManySmarts

Can't post for 3 hours!

Tank Boy Ken posted:

Would you also admit that it is more technologically (network) advanced than SC if that would happen?

You're just trying to get me probated by posting a ::rolling eyes:: meme.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:07

BloodyScab: Sep 12, 2017; by Smythe

POOL IS CLOSED posted:

But the Lethalities will cling to multiple doomed ships. Like krakens of failure.

Lethality is a FUDspreader now. Practically Derek's righthand man. He questions the dream and says it won't get done.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:07

Nanako the Narc: Sep 6, 2011

POOL IS CLOSED posted:

But the Lethalities will cling to multiple doomed ships. Like krakens of failure.

I dunno, if there's one thing Lethalities like more than clinging on to doomed ships, it's tribalism, remember how much they hate E:D for having the temerity of being a functional, existing game? That said, if it were a different genre, like, say, a cyberpunk MMO, that might be enough to attract their attention.

(Also I love the idea of a 'kraken of failure')

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:14

kilus aof: Mar 24, 2001

trucutru posted:

That's the Pioneer, quite likely the "game changer" Ben was all excited about. It's probably going to be the ship you need to buy to setup outposts in planets. If so, it'll make millions.

e: yeah, it is

It's probably is a single use ship that creates a single outpost. But you can make unlimited outposts as long as you keep buying ships. Fresh money only too, no CCUing or whatever.

Now you can make an outpost in the Skyrim crater.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:14

Strangler 42: Jan 8, 2007; SHAVE IT ALL OFF
ALL OF IT

Quavers posted:

Citizens are touting the newly revealed Consolidated Outland Pioneer jpeg as being the "game changer" ship. It might one day build outposts and whatnot. If they get planets working. With more than 16 players per server. At a decent FPS. Without crashing every electrical device within a 5 mile radius.

The Coutt's question: how much are CIG gonna milk the whales for one at CitizenCon?

$1k?
$2k?
$3k?
More?

The price is going to be dependent on how confident CIG is in their presentation. If it's a huge update/bucket of lies then the price will probably top out close to 1k. If CIG is expecting a disappointing show and are already prepping an apology video then the price is probably closer to 400. The price could cause a backer revolt if they aren't careful with it. We know that it is a blatant moneygrab, but they can't make it obvious to the backers.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:18

Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

What a scam.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:18

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hot balls man no homo posted:

The price is going to be dependent on how confident CIG is in their presentation. If it's a huge update/bucket of lies then the price will probably top out close to 1k. If CIG is expecting a disappointing show and are already prepping an apology video then the price is probably closer to 400. The price could cause a backer revolt if they aren't careful with it. We know that it is a blatant moneygrab, but they can't make it obvious to the backers.

The remaining backers should bite nonetheless, they are trained well.

Humans are such easy prey

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:20

AP: Jul 12, 2004; One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them; Grimey Drawer

https://twitter.com/wtfosaurus/status/920712898673909761

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:20

POOL IS CLOSED: Jul 14, 2011; I'm just exploding with mackerel. This is the aji wo kutta of my discontent.; Pillbug

Latin Pheonix posted:

I dunno, if there's one thing Lethalities like more than clinging on to doomed ships, it's tribalism, remember how much they hate E:D for having the temerity of being a functional, existing game? That said, if it were a different genre, like, say, a cyberpunk MMO, that might be enough to attract their attention.

(Also I love the idea of a 'kraken of failure')

Well yeah, I never said it had to be a space game. :wink:

Had to be a kraken, it's gotta be big enough to strangle a mega whale. I regret not saying cosmic kraken though. I'll do better next time!

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:22

Toops: Nov 5, 2015; -find mood stabilizers
-also,

Potato Salad posted:

I don't understand brain development

like I did a semester of work waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in an embryonic neurology lab but I can wholeheartedly say that what little exposure I had to how brains work is utterly reverted by these loving screencaps

Star Citizens are a great example of why pregnant mothers shouldn't drink crack.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:23

Toops: Nov 5, 2015; -find mood stabilizers
-also,

ManofManyAliases posted:

LOL. If derek can get 64 players in the same instance - concurrently, I'll eat my belt.

*doesn't dare talk about Star Citizen's concurrent player count. Talks about Derek's.*

*clocks out for the day*

*while walking home on train tracks, does not notice train barreling towards him, instead choosing to focus on a squirrel standing in a distant road nibbling a walnut*

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:33

Beet Wagon: Oct 19, 2015

ManofManyAliases posted:

You're just trying to get me probated by posting a ::rolling eyes:: meme.

Just use the :allears:

smilie, my dude. You can be as snarky as you want as long as you don't use a lovely image macro with impact font :eng101:

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Nanako the Narc: Sep 6, 2011

POOL IS CLOSED posted:

Well yeah, I never said it had to be a space game.

Had to be a kraken, it's gotta be big enough to strangle a mega whale. I regret not saying cosmic kraken though. I'll do better next time!

Oh my bad, I instinctively thought of other space MMOs that were created like Starfighter Inc or the like.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 19:34

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