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Sagebrush posted:Canada should buy Rafales or nothing Canada in the interim is going to buy Australia's used F-18s
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Nebakenezzer posted:Canada in the interim is going to buy Australia's used F-18s How many of these are going to catch on fire mid-Atlantic ferry flight?
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joat mon posted:You can go inside the one in Topeka. And it's still full of equipment. The magnetron for the radar, is ~actually magnetic~. I've been in that one a bunch of times.
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The last time a Canadian Liberal government bought used military equipment from a close Commonwealth ally, it was a bunch of second hand subs that hasn't gone well Sounds like the Aussie F18s are slightly newer than most of the Candian models they'll be joining, but I also heard read that they have their own mountain of issues including more corrosion than expected. Which means, the Canadian Government will almost certainly go ahead with the deal and pat themselves on the back with all the money they save. If they want to get in a pissing contest with Boeing, just buy something modern from the EU and get expedited delivery on them as part of the deal and can the F18 (and F35) deal altogether.
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slidebite posted:The last time a Canadian Liberal government bought used military equipment from a close Commonwealth ally, it was a bunch of second hand subs that hasn't gone well This would be decisive action, obviously the last thing wanted I think there would be some handwaving about a "real fighter competition" but how hard is that to set up In any realistic assessment we're down to three and they are all European (hopefully down to two since I think the Eurofighter is a turd with canards) Actually if anybody wants to explain why there would be political hesitation here, or why the DND apparatus for managing these things is still 50% understaffed, feel free
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I am sure we’ll still end up with F-35s but just have to pay more for them and get them after everyone else due to all the hemming and hawing. Every cabinet minister involved currently (dnd, public works) will be high paid lockmart lobbyists by that time.
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Hanging out on a mountain above a Swiss airshow looks like fun: https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=hSIYmBVCCNE
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I might have found peak noise thanks to the good ol' USSR  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DMtPg12phM
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MikeCrotch posted:I might have found peak noise thanks to the good ol' USSR I suspected it would be this aircraft before I looked at it. And if it wasn't, this post would have been informing you that you were wrong.
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The Tu-114 and the Connie/Super-Connie are the prettiest 4-engined planes ever made  
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MikeCrotch posted:I might have found peak noise thanks to the good ol' USSR That's not a Thunderscreech! 
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:The Tu-114 and the Connie/Super-Connie are the prettiest 4-engined planes ever made Da gently caress you say? This is just like 5 seconds of smashing links into a post as rebuttal.   
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Eight props, each of the tips of which are breaking the sound barrier. Bears are loving loud.
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I've never heard a rainbow but I imagine they sound cool
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Hustler looks stupid Bone looks deformed from the side Rainbow... Rainbow is ok. But it still isn't as pretty as the Connie! E. I did say prettiest
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A Connie traced from a photo with a ruler. In Crimson Skies 2, The Bomb hits the Nation of Hollywood as you take a commanding grip of Howard Hughes' personal SAC.
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Hustler looks stupid Ban this sick filth.
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MrYenko posted:Ban this sick filth. 
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:The Tu-114 and the Connie/Super-Connie are the prettiest 4-engined planes ever made The Tu-114 is an elegant piece of Soviet Constructivist engineering. The Constellation is a moderately attractive 1940s airliner. The Super Connie is some kind of ghastly deformed flying whale dong.
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mlmp08 posted:Da gently caress you say? This is just like 5 seconds of smashing links into a post as rebuttal. Not only is the B-1 astoundingly beautiful, it looks like a cat.
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I don't know if the Tu-114 is beautiful, per se, but it is seriously goddamn cool and I'm sad they only made a few of them.
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One thing people might've overlooked in that video - they had to use a secondary staircase to reach the airstair. They ran into the same issue when Khrushchev came to NYC - no ~bourgeois~ airstair could reach the door. Other than that, it's not the authentic noise - if you look at the info beneath, it was dubbed in from an originally silent newsreel film. Probably because no microphone would've been able to pick up anything except the sound of demons.
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I wonder if it was more unpleasant to fly in the Tu-114 or Tu-144.
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MikeCrotch posted:I might have found peak noise thanks to the good ol' USSR Wouldn't the Tu-95 have sounded almost identical to the Tu-114?
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Kebbins posted:Wouldn't the Tu-95 have sounded almost identical to the Tu-114? Yeah they’re the same iirc
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I'd imagine the Tu-114 would've had more allotment for sound/vibration dampening since it wouldn't have to factor in a bombload. The interior space would've made it nicer to fly in - even if it was slower than the -144. The -114 could've probably made in one flight what it would've taken two for the -144, plus a lengthy refueling and maintenance check on the ground. Also, there was only ever one fatal accident in a -114, and it was because someone hadn't properly cleared the runway of snow drifts. Someone left a snow drift high enough that it clipped the *wing* on that loving monster. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-114#Accidents_and_incidents BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Oct 19, 2017 |
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david_a posted:I wonder if it was more unpleasant to fly in the Tu-114 or Tu-144. The Tu-116. Put some seats in the bomb bay of a standard Tu-95, cut some holes for windows, and call it a day.
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Nebakenezzer posted:Canada in the interim is going to buy Australia's used F-18s This article says 'The [Australian] Super Hornets were ordered in 2007 as an “interim air combat capability” when the F-35 suffered a series of delays'. So is Australia getting rid of the non-Super (Sub? no, don't mention 2nd-hand subs!) Hornets because they have the Super ones? If so maybe once Australia gets the F-35s, Canada can have the SHs as hand-me-downs too, as the article suggests the RAAF wants to get rid of the SHs too. slidebite posted:Sounds like the Aussie F18s are slightly newer than most of the Candian models they'll be joining, but I also heard read that they have their own mountain of issues including more corrosion than expected. Yeah, I saw corrosion mentioned in some articles too. I would hate to imagine what would happen if someone put Hornets somewhere surrounded by salt water!!
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Buttcoin purse posted:Yeah, I saw corrosion mentioned in some articles too. I would hate to imagine what would happen if someone put Hornets somewhere surrounded by salt water!! Like, say, on an aircraft carrier?  Or are we  'ing here I can never tell anymore.
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The Tu-114 probably is exactly as loud as the Tu-95 but the Tu-95 didn't fly to commercial airports
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I'd love to fly on a Tu-114. Its a B-52 without the extra engines visible.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Probably because no microphone would've been able to pick up anything except the sound of demons. There are plenty of videos shot with sound of Bears at airshows. It really is one of those noises that's just unnerving, like the foghorns in Pacific Rim. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKkyINrSWik
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Bad Angus! Bad!
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God’s perfect aircraft: the 707
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cowboy elvis posted:God’s perfect aircraft: the 707  
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Psion posted:shameful discussion of 4-engine planes without posting a 747 Pretend I posted a bunch of pictures of A380s with the hideous nose cropped out.
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Psion posted:like, name me another plane who's main job is to be a flying passenger bus that actually looks good and is good at its job. 
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Dash-7: because sometimes an helicopter just won't do.
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Considering where airline development went, it is a sort-of platonic ideal, isn't it? The Il-86 looks very similar:  
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