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Speaking of Enterprise I remember when it was running, the thread here on SA had some people who worked on the set feeding us zany information. Do we have any insiders this time?
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 16:45 |
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Complaint: I hate the new technobabble! It's all, "we read this cool new thing in Nature about, like, dwarf bears and somehow spores are everywhere". Back in the day, it was just incomprehensible garbage.
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 17:49 |
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This show is taking a lot of risks, and while it is not hitting the mark quite now, I'll give it real credit for taking those risks. I hope it comes together eventually. I'm watching The Orville show too, and while that is a comedy by a guy known for being edgy, it's oddly risk free. Even the comedy is close to Everybody Loves Raymond level of safe. There's the odd sex joke, but for the most part it's something I could easily watch with my mother. I want to like it, but it's so sterile. I'm going to stick with it, but hope for something to happen.
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 18:12 |
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Lol, yeah. Nobody ever complained about reversing the polarons in the time matrix or whatever. But you nipple clamp one water bear to ride a mushroom and the franchise suddenly jumped the shark.
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 18:15 |
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People loving complained about quantum burrito fields and warp particles and poo poo all the time. We have a loving emoji about it.
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 18:19 |
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Aside from Voyager, some of the technobabble was somewhat based in realty.
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 18:23 |
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The problem is that nobody cares about these characters and their water bear BDSM hijinks because they're a bunch of lovely idiots to each other. It's great they've managed to avoid saying stuff like "modify the deflector!" but now they're leaning so hard into "serious modern TV" tropes like everyone being an uncooperative dick in a grim depressing world that the whole thing comes off like a weird joke Like yeah we've never seen a Star Trek be crappy in quite this way before so you know wow *jazz hands*
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 18:24 |
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Cojawfee posted:Aside from Voyager, some of the technobabble was somewhat based in realty.
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 18:24 |
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Why are the ships so ugly. I don't care about ship design per se but I'd at least like to be able to tell what they look like. The Klingon ships are undefinable shapes of bumpmapped blue material. I'm glad the captain escaped from the Oblivion tower and beat up all of the dremoras on the way.
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 18:25 |
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Vehementi posted:Speaking of Enterprise I remember when it was running, the thread here on SA had some people who worked on the set feeding us zany information. Do we have any insiders this time? I dunno, but I went back searching for old Enterprise threads, and came across this gem talking about what people would want for the next Star Trek series after Enterprise: Some Schmuck in 2004 posted:I'd like a more gritty wartime storyline. The whole season is one continuous, short-term story about some ship's experiences in some mission in the war. Two old friends (Captain and First Officer) with differing ideologies end up coming to blows by the end and one ends up killing the other. Pretty dark with various flashback episodes fleshing out the characters.
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 19:01 |
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Whenever you have something there's always some fuckwit that wants a dark, grittier version of it, no matter the circumstances or appropriateness There are people out there that think BSG was too bright and happy
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 19:10 |
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HD DAD posted:I dunno, but I went back searching for old Enterprise threads, and came across this gem talking about what people would want for the next Star Trek series after Enterprise: Fans have been having lovely ideas for $nextTrek for ages. I remember there was a contingent of shitheads over at one forum that wanted a ~Federation civil war~ where all the evil communists would be put down and the Federation returned to good god-fearing capitalism.
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 19:14 |
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Hay guys do you wanna read my new fanfic it's about how the Federation collapses and one ship has to try to rebuild it in a ~*dark crippled galaxy*~ OG idea do not steal
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 19:18 |
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Tighclops posted:Hay guys do you wanna read my new fanfic it's about how the Federation collapses and one ship has to try to rebuild it in a ~*dark crippled galaxy*~ Pretty sure this was an actual pitch from around the same era as the "Starfleet Academy" pitch that eventually morphed into JJTrek
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 19:29 |
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Tighclops posted:Hay guys do you wanna read my new fanfic it's about how the Federation collapses and one ship has to try to rebuild it in a ~*dark crippled galaxy*~ Check out my Dragon Ball Z/Voyager crossover fic. The latest chapter features Tien trying to teach Harry Kim to psychically project himself to his long lost love in San Fransisco. Thank you to all my readers, xXJanewayXx -3/21/01
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 19:38 |
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skasion posted:Pretty sure this was an actual pitch from around the same era as the "Starfleet Academy" pitch that eventually morphed into JJTrek It was an actual show, minus the Federation. It was bad.
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 19:45 |
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Tighclops posted:Hay guys do you wanna read my new fanfic it's about how the Federation collapses and one ship has to try to rebuild it in a ~*dark crippled galaxy*~ As I recall the ship design for that was even worse than that lovely CGI we got in the initial Disco teaser.
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 19:52 |
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 20:09 |
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What the gently caress is that even Hammerhead class? Ramming speed!
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 20:14 |
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That is a tuning peg. “Ensign, set a course for drop D.”
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 20:15 |
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Lol, wow. Looks like someone beheaded Voyager and jammed an aircraft carrier onto its stump sideways.
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 20:18 |
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Could be worse
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 20:35 |
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The idea of the Federation collapsing was supposed to be the series after Enterprise. They started developing it but it was abandoned after the JJ movie was announced. http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_Federation quote:"Utopia as a goal is like the fire in a nuclear engine. Utopia in practice is stagnation; it's dry rot; eventually it's death. Which is precisely where we find the United Federation of Planets a few centuries after the last Age of Discovery."
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 20:51 |
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So there you go, things could be a drat sight worse than Discovery.
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 20:57 |
Yeah wow. That really makes me appreciate that this is a prequel. If you're going to do a darker story where people struggle with their ideals, at least make something that's leading into a future utopia. The fact that the central premise of that show was utopia = stagnation is way more virulently anti-Trek than anything Discovery could muster.
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 21:07 |
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Funso Banjo posted:I'm watching The Orville show too, and while that is a comedy by a guy known for being edgy, it's oddly risk free. Even the comedy is close to Everybody Loves Raymond level of safe. There's the odd sex joke, but for the most part it's something I could easily watch with my mother. I want to like it, but it's so sterile. I'm going to stick with it, but hope for something to happen. Last episode literally ended with the main characters burning alive the crew of an entire ship.
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 21:08 |
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The Bloop posted:Could be worse That’s gonna fly right up me bum.
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 21:33 |
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Mr. Apollo posted:The idea of the Federation collapsing was supposed to be the series after Enterprise. They started developing it but it was abandoned after the JJ movie was announced. How the hell would the Ferengi of all people be the dominant power?
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 21:38 |
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I feel like if you could somehow average this show and The Orville there might be a decent show in there somewhere. I'll probably keep watching both of these though
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 21:50 |
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Tim Raines IRL posted:I feel like if you could somehow average this show and The Orville there might be a decent show in there somewhere. While The Orville is hardly perfect the ways to improve it are mostly orthogonal to what Discovery is doing. I'm not really sure what ideas from Discovery it could borrow that would make it better instead of worse
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 21:52 |
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Cingulate posted:Polarise the polarity of the polaron beam. Back on TNG, when they encountered a magic time hole, it was a "Kerr loop of superstring material". By Voyager, that kinda stuff had turned into, like, oh no it's an inverse antichroniton surge.
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 22:55 |
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Cingulate posted:Complaint: I hate the new technobabble! It's all, "we read this cool new thing in Nature about, like, dwarf bears and somehow spores are everywhere". Back in the day, it was just incomprehensible garbage. It used to be incomprehensible garbage from people who read scifi and science journals. Now it's incomprehensible garbage from people who read wikipedia and io9. Progress!
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# ? Oct 19, 2017 23:33 |
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Exactly!
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# ? Oct 20, 2017 00:35 |
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Bring back the one time Geordi ratted on Data for giving a nonsense answer to a tech question.
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# ? Oct 20, 2017 00:36 |
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I just read that the tardigrade was originally supposed to be a crewmember. That would actually have been cool.
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# ? Oct 20, 2017 01:11 |
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Shibawanko posted:I just read that the tardigrade was originally supposed to be a crewmember. That would actually have been cool. You might say thats its role was Tar degraded
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# ? Oct 20, 2017 02:53 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:How the hell would the Ferengi of all people be the dominant power? G.P.L.R.E.A.M.
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# ? Oct 20, 2017 03:06 |
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jfood posted:G.P.L.R.E.A.M. You have the lobes for music
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# ? Oct 20, 2017 03:08 |
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Mr. Apollo posted:The idea of the Federation collapsing was supposed to be the series after Enterprise. They started developing it but it was abandoned after the JJ movie was announced. Good points: Has Ferengi. Bad points: Everything else.
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FlamingLiberal posted:That sounds awful
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