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Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


If it's widebodies with skinny engines you want,

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D C
Jun 20, 2004

1-800-HOTLINEBLING
1-800-HOTLINEBLING
1-800-HOTLINEBLING
gently caress it, Trijets forever.



D C fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Oct 19, 2017

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

Psion posted:

shameful discussion of 4-engine planes without posting a 747

like, name me another plane who's main job is to be a flying passenger bus that actually looks good and is good at its job. I'm not claiming it's the best looking 4-engine ever, but it deserves mention in any list :colbert:

Uh, Concorde.

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit
Needs more internally mounted engines.



Shame about the square windows though.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
No Il-62 yet. Sad!

(I'm too lazy to find and post a picture right now).

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
Four internal engines, you say?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wemyw-5czU

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

drgitlin posted:

Uh, Concorde.

Except for the whole "making money sustainably" part.

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005

gently caress yes

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Look on my four engines ye mighty and despaaaaaa'm in the dirt

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
This plane is not a looker, but how am I not going to post such a weird trijet?

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

mlmp08 posted:

This plane is not a looker, but how am I not going to post such a weird trijet?



"Bob, what if we tried just sticking them ever which way and see how each one does?"

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

as a person who never leaves my house i've done pretty well for myself.

mlmp08 posted:

This plane is not a looker, but how am I not going to post such a weird trijet?



This plane is Kerbal as gently caress.

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005
Small Swept Wing looks so dumb on mk3 fuselage.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

FrozenVent posted:

Except for the whole "making money sustainably" part.

BA made money operating it, it was just Air France that was a failure.

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



mlmp08 posted:

This plane is not a looker, but how am I not going to post such a weird trijet?



What do you mean, not a looker? Ban this sick filth!



(Also I was wrong earlier about the -114/Connie... bc I honestly forgot both the Vulcan and the Victor)
:shepicide:

Previa_fun
Nov 10, 2004

mlmp08 posted:

This plane is not a looker, but how am I not going to post such a weird trijet?



According to wikipedia the XB-51 had excellent low level maneuverabilty. Which blows that whole "looks good, flies good" theory out of the window.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Nebakenezzer posted:

Considering where airline development went, it is a sort-of platonic ideal, isn't it?

The Il-86 looks very similar:





It also first flew two decades after the 707, and after Ilyushin met with Boeing engineers about Boeing's design choices.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
The biggest difference between the Il-86 and the 707 is that the Il-86 might have the powerplant equivalent to the 707, but it's got the body of an early-model 767 or A300. Two aisles.

Hell, I remember the first design proposal for the 747 had two 707 fuselages stacked one on top of the other with a single aisle on both. Can you IMAGINE how long it'd take to deplane that fucker?

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Godholio posted:

It also first flew two decades after the 707, and after Ilyushin met with Boeing engineers about Boeing's design choices.

Oh yeah, I knew that, I was thinking of platonic airliners, I suppose.

a patagonian cavy
Jan 12, 2009

UUA CVG 230000 KZID /RM TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY OF THE BENGALS DYNASTY

BIG HEADLINE posted:



Hell, I remember the first design proposal for the 747 had two 707 fuselages stacked one on top of the other with a single aisle on both. Can you IMAGINE how long it'd take to deplane that fucker?

Apparently some of the early A380 concepts were envisioned using a pair of A340 fuselages side by side, which I can't find photos of

what I can find is a horrible 747 full length double deck concept


hurrrrrrr

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

a patagonian cavy posted:

Apparently some of the early A380 concepts were envisioned using a pair of A340 fuselages side by side, which I can't find photos of

what I can find is a horrible 747 full length double deck concept


hurrrrrrr

Still looks less bad than an A380. No fivehead.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

as a person who never leaves my house i've done pretty well for myself.

Previa_fun posted:

According to wikipedia the XB-51 had excellent low level maneuverabilty. Which blows that whole "looks good, flies good" theory out of the window.

Looking good is a sufficient but unnecessary condition for flying good.

PhotoKirk
Jul 2, 2007

insert witty text here

mlmp08 posted:

This plane is not a looker, but how am I not going to post such a weird trijet?



My great-uncle was one of the designers of the XB-51.

If you can track down a DVD of Toward The Unknown, the XB-51 is the Gilbert XF-120 experimental fighter in the movie. Lots of great footage.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



a patagonian cavy posted:

Apparently some of the early A380 concepts were envisioned using a pair of A340 fuselages side by side, which I can't find photos of

what I can find is a horrible 747 full length double deck concept


hurrrrrrr

That looks like one of the Hasegawa Eggplanes.

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


FrozenVent posted:

Except for the whole "making money sustainably" part.

That should never be included in a discussion of pretty planes.

drgitlin posted:

BA made money operating it, it was just Air France that was a failure.

Well, BA was better at cooking its books at least.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Finger Prince posted:

Well, BA was better at cooking its books at least.

BA used to offer Concorde flights ~gratis~ to First Class passengers it had to bump off of 747 flights on the same routes Concorde flew. It was likely cheaper than reimbursing them because fuel was way cheaper back then.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

a patagonian cavy posted:

Apparently some of the early A380 concepts were envisioned using a pair of A340 fuselages side by side, which I can't find photos of

what I can find is a horrible 747 full length double deck concept


hurrrrrrr

No.

The TOP design here is the :hurr: one:



That's :manning: combined with a Conehead. Also notice that despite it being double-decker - there's only one row of windows. Evidently this was called the "Anteater" design.

I was also a bit luckier in finding the side-by-side A340 design:



The only way I could see interior row seating working on that mutant plane is if they incorporated things like *actual tables* and old-style front-and-back facing seats, so it'd be like riding on a train. Also plenty of room for a lounge area in each class.

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Oct 20, 2017

ehnus
Apr 16, 2003

Now you're thinking with portals!


Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

as a person who never leaves my house i've done pretty well for myself.

I’m pretty sure it’s just occlusion fuckery, but drat if those don’t look like unbalanced trijets.

ausgezeichnet
Sep 18, 2005

In my country this is definitely not offensive!
Nap Ghost

This MF'er knows waz up. General Dynamics reprezent!

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

a patagonian cavy posted:

Apparently some of the early A380 concepts were envisioned using a pair of A340 fuselages side by side, which I can't find photos of

what I can find is a horrible 747 full length double deck concept


hurrrrrrr

This looks like something out of Thunderbirds

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!

Nebakenezzer posted:

Oh yeah, I knew that, I was thinking of platonic airliners, I suppose.



Good lord

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

If you need something to read this gloomy damp friday, here's a BBC future article on the Tu-144, which includes its second life as a NASA test bed.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

as a person who never leaves my house i've done pretty well for myself.


Alaska Airlines has retired their last Combi.

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

What are these?

707s with turbofans?

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

~Coxy posted:

What are these?

707s with turbofans?

DC-8 Super Seventies. DC-8s re-engined with CFM-56s.

Previa_fun
Nov 10, 2004

Old airplanes just don't look right with modern turbofans.

Duke Chin
Jan 11, 2002

Roger That:
MILK CRATES INBOUND

:siren::siren::siren::siren:
- FUCK THE HABS -

Huh, I had no idea these were a thing. Much less w/ Alaska Air

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FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Combis are pretty kick rear end, there are still a few 737-200C quick change with gravel kits operating in Canada and those things are basically bush planes on steroids.

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