WillyTheNewGuy posted:The only Inhumans stories I've ever read were all in ultimate fantastic four, and I think they worked well in that context. Too bad that'll never happen in a movie now. Not that FF movies have a good track record... Silent War was really good.
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There’s a bunch of posts about Inhumans in the ABC Marvel thread and it’s getting enough Friday ratings to get renewed (if not for the budget)
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Oct 21, 2017 07:41
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BiggerBoat posted:Jesus. So it's not even bad enough to be discussed it seems. Everything I've seen just screams boring and dull. If those things can be shouted I mean. Its got a thread marked "Marvel on ABC" with Agents of SHIELD. I'm waiting to binge it. The pilot was mediocre but not terrible.
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Oct 21, 2017 19:46
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STAC Goat posted:Its got a thread marked "Marvel on ABC" with Agents of SHIELD. I watched the first 1½ episodes and bailed after reading it got worse from there. I'm just counting the weeks now until AoS (the only consistently good comic books show these days, it feels) returns.
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Oct 21, 2017 20:02
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Inhumans has about two hours of decent show stretched out to eight hours, looks like. It has its moments, but is a placeholder for Agents Of SHIELD at best. Iron Fist isn't that bad in comparison.
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Oct 21, 2017 21:42
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Iron Fist is a drat masterpiece compared to Inhumans, and i'll watch anything.
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Oct 21, 2017 21:56
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Iron Fist's first two episodes are some of the most awful television I've ever watched. Inhumans starts off aggressively mediocre but doesn't get to Iron Fist levels until episode 3 or 4. I haven't watched episode 5 but my expectations are pretty low.
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Oct 21, 2017 22:47
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notthegoatseguy posted:Iron Fist's first two episodes are some of the most awful television I've ever watched. Inhumans starts off aggressively mediocre but doesn't get to Iron Fist levels until episode 3 or 4. Episode 5 was a step forward. Kevin Tancharoen directed (he's the guys who did the Drunken Master fight from Iron Fist, and also a bunch of AoS and Arrowverse stuff) and the quality shows.
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Oct 21, 2017 23:28
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This is mainly why I'm planning to binge it. I don't have to go one week at a time ebbing and flowing with the relative quality of each episode and with a week of people reacting in all manner of rational and hyperbolic ways and affecting my perception. Its clearly got its flaws but I'm also interesting so I'm just collecting it and I'll burn it all off in a couple of days and judge the entire package (or if its bad enough ditch it and not have it be a weeks or months long thing).
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Oct 21, 2017 23:33
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Eh, after having watched Jackie Chan's Drunken Master movies many times over the years, I found the Iron Fist drunken boxing scene pathetic.
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Oct 22, 2017 00:13
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Well if you compare everything to Jackie Chan, you can only ever go down.
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Oct 22, 2017 00:18
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Episode 6 is the best, as much as it's genre schlock it is the correct genre minimum.
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Oct 22, 2017 00:19
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enraged_camel posted:Eh, after having watched Jackie Chan's Drunken Master movies many times over the years, I found the Iron Fist drunken boxing scene pathetic. Are you somehow suggesting that Finn Jones isn't as good a martial artist as Jackie Chan?? Tancharoen's a solid (in my opinion, well above average) TV superhero director who elevates the material he's given. But he's not writing the scripts or casting the roles -- good directing can only do so much.
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Oct 22, 2017 00:21
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enraged_camel posted:Eh, after having watched Jackie Chan's Drunken Master movies many times over the years, I found the Iron Fist drunken boxing scene pathetic. Have some drunken Muay Thai as a palette cleanser. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wntPbp4ADpE&t=263s
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Oct 22, 2017 00:39
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEt4B1poOfM
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Oct 22, 2017 01:52
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I’m curious: Prior to Iron Fist, has the drunken master archetype ever been used as the bad guy before? I can’t think of any examples, but I’m not extremely well-versed in the martial arts genre.
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Oct 22, 2017 02:06
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Not really, it's the type of thing you don't see often outside of old Hong-Fu movies. It's a dying art for a reason, It's been Wushu'd to death.
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Yakmouth posted:I’m curious: Prior to Iron Fist, has the drunken master archetype ever been used as the bad guy before? I can’t think of any examples, but I’m not extremely well-versed in the martial arts genre. The final boss of the fighting tournament DLC in Sleeping Dogs used it too. But that's a video game and I'm blanking on any examples in movies too.
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Oct 22, 2017 02:17
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The drunken bar owner in Jet Li's Rise to Honor might count: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLLXGQmkD34
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Oct 22, 2017 02:48
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notthegoatseguy posted:Iron Fist's first two episodes are some of the most awful television I've ever watched. Inhumans starts off aggressively mediocre but doesn't get to Iron Fist levels until episode 3 or 4. I agree with the first part, but goddamn is Inhumans bad from the outset. Less than mediocre. They did not one but two inept pop-song-based scenes of Maximus betraying people in the first episodes and it is hilarious how badly they work. They use a cover of “Paint it Black,” and it’s embarrassing to compare to any other piece of media that has used it.
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Oct 22, 2017 08:00
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enraged_camel posted:Eh, after having watched Jackie Chan's Drunken Master movies many times over the years, I found the Iron Fist drunken boxing scene pathetic. The guy playing the drunken fighter is great, the choreography, editing and Finn Jones are teeerrrible.
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Oct 22, 2017 08:09
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How did Finn Jones get cast The other three netflix were made for their roles, and some of the bit parters too (Scott Glenn as Stick) not even including villains Finn and Elektra are the standouts for the wrong reasons
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Oct 22, 2017 13:52
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Lid posted:How did Finn Jones get cast Supposedly word got out to agents that Iron Fist was a mess behind the scenes before they started casting, and so a lot of actors deliberately steered clear.
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Oct 22, 2017 14:27
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What’s wrong with Elektra’s actress?
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Oct 22, 2017 15:00
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She looks like she doesn't know where she's at.
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Oct 22, 2017 15:49
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Lid posted:How did Finn Jones get cast They wanted to bank on Game of Thrones star power, even though I don't think his GOT character has ever done anything other than be gay.
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Oct 22, 2017 15:56
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I didn't realize he also played Loras on GoT until just now
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Oct 22, 2017 16:47
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Lurdiak posted:The guy playing the drunken fighter is great, the choreography, editing and Finn Jones are teeerrrible. That guy playing the drunken fighter is gonna be in season 3 of that terrible AMC show Into the Badlands (I think there's a thread for it here).
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Oct 22, 2017 17:52
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Oracle posted:That guy playing the drunken fighter is gonna be in season 3 of that terrible AMC show Into the Badlands (I think there's a thread for it here). Isn't that the show with amazing choreography but terrible everything else?
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Oct 22, 2017 18:23
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Lurdiak posted:She looks like she doesn't know where she's at. Elektra's casting is a little more iffy because her part is written so horribly. Actors can't do much with terrible scripts and it's pretty obvious that the writers type up her pieces with one hand. If she had a good part and still couldn't perform I'd agree she was a miscast but Netflix has hosed up just about everything on Elektra. Don't forget they wrote her sitting on a floor wailing DO YOU STILL WANT ME at Matt, which is one of the most out of character things that I've ever seen in translating a comic to the screen. HIJK fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Oct 22, 2017 |
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Oct 22, 2017 18:48
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enraged_camel posted:Isn't that the show with amazing choreography but terrible everything else? Yeah the actual plots are hilariously cheesy to the point of being amazing. Also the villain has the most hilarious southern parody accent.
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Oct 22, 2017 19:02
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enraged_camel posted:Isn't that the show with amazing choreography but terrible everything else? Its not the Wire but Into the Badlands is a lot of fun and everything that Iron Fist should have been.
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Oct 22, 2017 19:28
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Elektra was good and the actor portraying her was perfectly fine. The writing was bad and the ninja poo poo was boring. I thought she was great and I don't even like the character.
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Oct 22, 2017 20:06
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BiggerBoat posted:Elektra was good and the actor portraying her was perfectly fine. The writing was bad and the ninja poo poo was boring. I thought she was great and I don't even like the character. same
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Oct 22, 2017 22:01
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enraged_camel posted:Isn't that the show with amazing choreography but terrible everything else? Badlands is a great kung-fu show that has a plot you sit through for the sick kung-fu fights.
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Oct 23, 2017 01:49
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enraged_camel posted:Isn't that the show with amazing choreography but terrible everything else? Hey that's a misrepresentation. It has good costume design too. 
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Oct 23, 2017 02:59
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wiegieman posted:Badlands is a great kung-fu show that has a plot you sit through for the sick kung-fu fights. im sold
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Oct 23, 2017 03:13
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wiegieman posted:Badlands is a great kung-fu show that has a plot you sit through for the sick kung-fu fights. (Ugh, I don't like picking on this show because I respect what it's done and is still trying to do (also Daniel Wu is from my hometown  ), but the decline in production and narrative quality was so steep over such a short period of time that it's like watching Arrow in high-speed. And with the next season having as many episodes as the first two combined, I just can't imagine it climbing back to its former heights.)
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Oct 23, 2017 03:15
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LOL, I was *just* about to post that scene. Such a good fight.
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Xand_Man posted:Hey that's a misrepresentation. That’s just The Kurgen
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