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flerp posted:its kinda weird bif is buddying up w/ gif kind of, but im not sure thats indictative of either of bif's or gif's alignments. I am buddying up to Gif because Gif is my buddy, and an upstanding dude I'd be willing to have a go testing his D1 scumdar ##vote thranguy
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flerp posted:thoughts It's uncertainty of both types, be sure. There are a lot of claims based on playstyle history or proclivity to sub out as scum vs town that I don't have any way to evaluate getting thrown around. I've been trying to find the best case in a day full of weak cases, with the only one that felt remotely strong to be getting a cop claim, and now that we're actually getting close to deadline I'm looking for the vote that doesn't help a day one no-lynch happen, which I guess could read the same as 'safest'. I don't quite understand your case for opop tbh. Can't they be both dumb and scum? Anyhow, for independent thought, if opop does have a solid explanation to give, maybe we should look at grandicap next? Of all of our most lurkier people right now his posts feel the most sit-back-and-sip-lemonade-y.
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Hi everyone I was camping this weekend and catching up now. Here are my thoughts on the people who have votes on them right now Retro - nothing but shitposts (yay d1) other than literally the last post they made which is kind of a case I guess. Hal - fullclaimed, not worth the risk today. this is a no brainer. Thran - there's no case on him from stonecold. flerp's case is about as good as a d1 case can be. Bif - the hal/bif draws too much attention for either of them to be scum. Apos - Case on them is as good as on thran I guess. Both of them feel like trying to contribute without contributing. I strongly believe d1 is a waste of time in terms of casebuilding. but that d1 kills are important so I'm gonna ## vote thran and will be happy to switch to apos, or a better case.
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Infinitum posted:Scum team pushing for a last minute vote swing imo you've been on aposte literally since the beginning only because they're acting like a newbie or something
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Also infinitum, you're saying apos (aka the scum) is pushing for a swing vote? Can you show??
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NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:Also infinitum, you're saying apos (aka the scum) is pushing for a swing vote? Can you show?? Infinitum doesn't like my Third Votes.
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NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:you've been on aposte literally since the beginning only because they're acting like a newbie or something Also for weird as gently caress whining about how she wasn't going to survive the day so we might as well just kill her, after only 3 votes were put on her  NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:Also infinitum, you're saying apos (aka the scum) is pushing for a swing vote? Can you show?? RF had 3 votes on him earlier once the heat had gone off of Hal, due to the cop claim Asiina, Thran, and Apostate People are suss on Thran as well for a bit, so my lizard brain tells me it might be scum trying to start a new swing vote onto RF before deadline hits. The current vote leaders are Thran + RF at 4 votes each now... so yeah.. I'm more inclined to vote Thran at this point.
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apostateCourier posted:Infinitum doesn't like my Third Votes. I literally never said this Stop putting words in my mouth Liar McLiarpants
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Oct 22, 2017 21:57
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Hosting in laws all weekend. I’ll be around in a few hours before deadline
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Infinitum posted:The current vote leaders are Thran + RF at 4 votes each now... so yeah.. I'm more inclined to vote Thran at this point. I'm actually more inclined to for RF right now. The last post by Thranguy at least gives the impression that he will give thoughts in his posts and I'm not so sure we can count on Retro to do the same. I'd still vote thranguy to avoid a no lynch, but I think Opop is the better vote right now, so I'll go ahead and ##vote Retro
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Votecount for Day 1  Retro Futurist (5): Asiina, Thranguy, apostateCourier, Mr. F!, TMMadman Thranguy (4): STONE COLD 64, Hal Incandenza (2): Asiina, Grandicap, Retro Futurist, Bifauxnen, apostateCourier, apostateCourier (2): Retro Futurist, Tobbs Gnawed, Bifauxnen, Bifauxnen (1): Hal Incandenza, flerp, apostateCourier, Grandicap (0): Hal Incandenza, b-minus1 (0): Grandicap, Infinitum (0): Tobbs Gnawed, flerp, Tobbs Gnawed (0): Asiina, Infinitum, apostateCourier, flerp, TMMadman (0): apostateCourier, STONE COLD 64 (0): STONE COLD 64, flerp (0): b-minus1, Not Voting (1): b-minus1With 15 alive, it's 8 votes to execute. The current deadline is October 22nd, 2017 at 11 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 5 hours, 53 minutes. The baying of dogs grows louder.
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Oct 22, 2017 22:06
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You're right, it wasn't you Infini. Just read through your posts again. Sec.
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Oct 22, 2017 22:09
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Thran feels like "new player" more than anything else. Not a huge amount to go on whether that's new town or new scum, I'm leaning town, but the me tooing and going along with things without coming up with original thoughts is definitely a new person thing, and they're right in that cases based on meta are going to be useless and difficult to latch onto for discussion. I don't want to vote Thran today. Inf is giving me bad feels tho.
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Oct 22, 2017 22:09
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Oh yeah it was Tobbs that didn't like my third vote-ing.
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Inf you list the people on Opop. Which of us do you think is scum? All of us? Why wouldn't the vote move to a new person after the vote leader claims cop? It feels like throwing out low level suspicion without really explaining why any of that is scummy.
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Asiina posted:Thran feels like "new player" more than anything else. Not a huge amount to go on whether that's new town or new scum, I'm leaning town, but the me tooing and going along with things without coming up with original thoughts is definitely a new person thing, and they're right in that cases based on meta are going to be useless and difficult to latch onto for discussion. Asiina posted:Inf you list the people on Opop. Which of us do you think is scum? All of us? So you're suddenly suspicious of me because I lumped you in with Thran and Apostate on the RF vote, but never mentioned you at all (Because I didn't think you were scum, thus not worth mentioning) Interesting  Also I did explain my positioning in that it was triggering my lizard brain that it might be scum swinging onto a towny after a claim. Not a lot to go on D1 other than your own personal suspicions. Now I really want to see how this plays out ##vote Thran
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Oct 22, 2017 22:19
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I don't know if I buy the Hal claim, it feels too much like he overthought what an ecco role would be and claimed that. That being said, I am not going to vote claimed cop with a built in killswitch d1. ##unvote Flerp is right and is thinking what I am thinking, the thran vote on the rapidly building Opop train seems to be trying to get in on the ground floor of the groundswell not that he buys the case at all. ##vote thranguy
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Oct 22, 2017 22:29
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Hal Incandenza posted:Also I would like to see Grandicap post more, he dropped a very early vote on me and then left forever That is an unfair assessment, weekend posting is sporadic at best.
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Oct 22, 2017 22:30
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Following up with I'll probably be unavailable for deadline, maybe... weekends are a fickle beast.
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To people that are voting Thran, what is your opinion of this post:Retro Futurist posted:Ok, going through the last couple pages I flipped back to town on Hal for his sincere stuff, but I think I’ve come back around to scum as it went on. Laid it on a little too thick imo Reminder this comes after a cop claim and makes no mention of it.
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Like Inf and Grandi, your logic would hold up if it was a switch to a lurker like FL/Mags or gif, someone who hasn't been around for a while, but Opop made a really bad post so don't pretend that these votes came out of nowhere.
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Asiina posted:To people that are voting Thran, what is your opinion of this post: I actually agree with Opops call there. Like that is what I think of Hals posting. But the cop claim with the kill switch trumps it for me. Without the built in kill switch I might still be voting Hal, maybe. Opop doesn't mention it, but it feels like a drive by post, he could have missed it. I don't know, it doesn't feel damning to me.
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I don't know how anyone can agree or disagree with Opop because his post has no substance at all. He's voting for Hal, then thought he was town for a while (why??) then decided nah he's scum (WHY???) and also again he never mentions the claim.
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So, this was opops post prior to the one in question:Retro Futurist posted:I mean I feel you need to take into consideration the fact that I was found guilty and killed It is innoffensive, but more importantly, 2 days before the one that people are jumping over. Retro Futurist posted:Ok, going through the last couple pages I flipped back to town on Hal for his sincere stuff, but I think I’ve come back around to scum as it went on. Laid it on a little too thick imo He hasn't posted since. I don't know how much time everyone has to put into games like this over the weekend, but a quick reread and dropping a hasty post and vote d1 don't feel like a big deal to me.
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Thranguy posted:##unvote Thran is sidelineing He then cheerleads the first big case of the game. Thranguy posted:I find that read pretty convincing. Not ready to risk an early hammer, but a lot stronger than any other case I've seen so far. And then the bandwagon vote here: Thranguy posted:I'm not sure how easy to test it really is. If their faking they can either claim they investigated the person the scum killed or that they were blocked, depending on if they become hated. Either of which could very well actually happen. Thran is the scum.
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Or it's his second game ever.
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Asiina posted:I don't know how anyone can agree or disagree with Opop because his post has no substance at all. He's voting for Hal, then thought he was town for a while (why??) then decided nah he's scum (WHY???) and also again he never mentions the claim. Yeah it does, other people called Hal sincere, Opop though he laid it on too thick after it intially swaying him. It isn't a deep read, but it is pretty close to how I feel about Hal.
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Asiina posted:Or it's his second game ever. Really? Damnit. ##unvote That colors his posts in a different light.
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Oct 22, 2017 22:46
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Cheerleading and being scared of dropping a vote is as easily indicative of new player play as it is of scum play. Now I need to find a new vote.
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Stands in an alley Psst, hey kid. I got a vote here for you. Top of the line vote. The ladies will love it. Opens trenchcoat to reveal a series of "##vote Opop" bumperstickers
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Asiina posted:Stands in an alley I find Opops post neutral at worst, and at best mimics my opinions of Hal. Also I like playing with him.
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Infinitum posted:Who the gently caress is Stone Cold? Gaspy.
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Infinitum posted:Who the gently caress is Stone Cold? Yeah I had to look it up, it's gif who got a name change. That's not confusing at all.
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Heyyyy I just remembered something funny Hal Incandenza posted:Bif I guess I just don’t even understand what you think my motivation was at the start? I was so afraid of you replacing in I had to quickly make something up to hurriedly get you out of the game based off something I couldn’t reasonably expect anyone to agree with me on and was almost sure to turn out just like this? Hal, if you wouldn't expect anyone to believe you and honestly believed it "was almost sure to turn out just like this", thus making your case such a risky, risky move, too risky for scum, and it's so frustrating I can't understand that... Why'd you make such a risky move when you're the cop?
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Asiina posted:Or it's his second game ever. Been mulling it over for a bit. Even though it's gonna look like absolute loving rear end unvoting him after I made a case against him, I'm not super comfortable with my vote on Thranguy atm as it really is his second game and I was not aware of this ##unvote I'll vote Thran or whoever to avoid a no-lynch, but I have a personal policy of not voting off new guys on D1 to promote growth in the community. (And I've stated as such in games past)
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