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Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

This is good for Star Citizen because

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TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer
also holy poo poo, the new wolfenstein is makin people lose their loving minds

like only in 2017 could a game about killing evil mechanazis be seen as "an inaccurate portrayal of National Socialist values by liberal and most likely Communist game designers"

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

Or indeed how that scales with 'progression' given that some people are going to be jacking off in _Carriers_ from day one, presuming that there is an advantage in being a huge space-going corridor.

TheAgent posted:

also holy poo poo, the new wolfenstein is makin people lose their loving minds

like only in 2017 could a game about killing evil mechanazis be seen as "an inaccurate portrayal of National Socialist values by liberal and most likely Communist game designers"

<shoots even more nazis>

What's that you're saying? I can't hear you over the nazi-killing.

Achamp
Oct 19, 2005
The two hhhwhat.... The two yutes your honor

Solarin posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DCbvu-uF4o

i'm in it, please like subscribe and parp

Thank you kind goon. This is absolute comedy gold and should be "archived" in this sub for prosperity.

Rantista
Oct 20, 2017

Blue On Blue posted:

I can agree with him that Battlecruiser 3000 is garbage, but so is Wing Commander

I don't understand why so many of the Roberts Church of Nerds place Wing Commander up on this golden pedestal of gaming

Everything from that era should be viewed with rose colored glasses, mostly because games were total poo poo but that's what everyone expected at the time.

I think back to my fondest gaming memories and realize they were fun at the time, but are not even worthy of an indie title these days no matter how much I squeeze that nostalgia and hope a gem pops out

At least WC4 was playable from the moment I got disks at the store, BC3K would crash on the first mission and I threw that garbage away. And Privateer was a lot of fun too, WC: Prophecy wasn't too bad too.

Virtual Captain
Feb 20, 2017

Archive Priest of the Stimperial Order

Star Citizen Good, in all things forevermore. Amen.
:pray:

Taintrunner posted:

Dreamworks face

Was not familiar with this theme. lol. I think Cpt Richards has enough :smuggo: to continue well after the unlikely event SC failure.



:vince: I'm dead, again. Tell me this is a photoshop.

Disco Lando: "The game is practically finished y'know at this point"

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Blue On Blue posted:

I can agree with him that Battlecruiser 3000 is garbage, but so is Wing Commander

I don't understand why so many of the Roberts Church of Nerds place Wing Commander up on this golden pedestal of gaming

Everything from that era should be viewed with rose colored glasses, mostly because games were total poo poo but that's what everyone expected at the time.

I think back to my fondest gaming memories and realize they were fun at the time, but are not even worthy of an indie title these days no matter how much I squeeze that nostalgia and hope a gem pops out

Nostalgia is all they have.


Doesn't stop them from charging money for in-game currency at a fixed rate.

Lack of Gravitas
Oct 11, 2012

Grimey Drawer

TheAgent posted:

also holy poo poo, the new wolfenstein is makin people lose their loving minds

like only in 2017 could a game about killing evil mechanazis be seen as "an inaccurate portrayal of National Socialist values by liberal and most likely Communist game designers"

I don't know how many nazis I've killed over the last four decades of gaming but I'm sure it's a lot and I don't think gaming would be the industry it is today if we didn't have all those nazis to kill over the years

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

Rantista posted:

At least WC4 was playable from the moment I got disks at the store, BC3K would crash on the first mission and I threw that garbage away. And Privateer was a lot of fun too, WC: Prophecy wasn't too bad too.

Same. Still have them sitting in the big old CD pile. The problem is people comparing SC with BC3000AD, which apart from being a buggy mess was actually released with only minor drama. The constant harping on about a game that was widely panned by literally everyone is an attempt to build a consensus that draws attention from people speculating on a soon-to-be-unveiled MMO by buying pictures of ingame assets.

It's the dumbest thing ever. BC3000AD was a bad game, but that doesn't speak to an advance payment scam that avoids anything concrete in favor of engaging fans _faith_. That the equivalency exists is a marker, that most people ignore it for the fifth grade histrionics that it is actually fills me with more hope.

Lack of Gravitas
Oct 11, 2012

Grimey Drawer
Never not be killing nazis is what I'm saying

his nibs
Feb 27, 2016

:kayak:Welcome to the:kayak:
Dream Factory
:kayak:
Grimey Drawer

Jobbo_Fett posted:

This is good for Star Citizen because

Have you not heard of agile development? Gah!..

Rantista
Oct 20, 2017
SC is pretty much just the artwork glued together by off the shelve products. They should hire good developers, not the junior devs that can only glue things together. But I high doubt that they can afford a 250k+ dev with their money burn.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

From the avacado friend thread...



I guess I don't understand transparent development.

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

Lack of Gravitas posted:

Never not be killing nazis is what I'm saying
See, this kind of toxic work environment is why we need more unions.

If you think I'm killing Nazis for more than 40 hours a week you can get hosed.

Toblakai
Jul 11, 2017

his nibs posted:

Have you not heard of agile development? Gah!..

Yeah, I've heard about and experienced agile development first hand. It is the ultimate excuse to do poo poo without any plan whatsoever and expecting that things will happen magically on their own.

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

Toblakai posted:

Yeah, I've heard about and experienced agile development first hand. It is the ultimate excuse to do poo poo without any plan whatsoever and expecting that things will happen magically on their own.

Sounds like CIG are real professionals at agile development.

nawledgelambo
Nov 8, 2016

Immersion chariot
man if love pledge turns out to be a big ruse I'm gonna be so mad

you'll know because letters will be capitalized and I will emphasize each keystroke with a stern look on my face

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

You should bold and/or underline random words as well.

ZenMaster
Jan 24, 2006

I Saved PC Gaming

Taintrunner posted:

He does that poo poo in every photo. It’s actually loving terrifying

https://imgur.com/2LmkZXN

Toblakai
Jul 11, 2017

big nipples big life posted:

Sounds like CIG are real professionals at agile development.

I'm surprised that the company I work for is at the CIG level of incompetence if not worse - until now we haven't embezzled nowhere near $160 millions.

ZenMaster
Jan 24, 2006

I Saved PC Gaming

You know, if you think about Star Citizen as the work of one person in their garage pluckily working on their dream game for the last 6 years it all makes more sense.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

ZenMaster posted:

You know, if you think about Star Citizen as the work of one person in their garage pluckily working on their dream game for the last 6 years it all makes more sense.

Where do you think they got the door?

ZenMaster
Jan 24, 2006

I Saved PC Gaming

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Where do you think they got the door?

:aaa: :eyepop:

MilesK
Nov 5, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iHz08t-Z-8

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Wow the 30th century sounds like it loving sucks

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

tooterfish posted:

See, this kind of toxic work environment is why we need more unions.

If you think I'm killing Nazis for more than 40 hours a week you can get hosed.

It's not work if you love what you do.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

Stuff like this is depressing. 30 secs before the big benny poo poo kicks in then it's the same old same old, port olooososiusiirssar and fuuuuuck yawn

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

peter gabriel posted:

Stuff like this is depressing. 30 secs before the big benny poo poo kicks in then it's the same old same old, port olooososiusiirssar and fuuuuuck yawn

The game is practically done. What are you complaining about??? This is the expanded scope of the game the community voted for after the Kickstarter!

MilesK
Nov 5, 2015

peter gabriel posted:

Stuff like this is depressing. 30 secs before the big benny poo poo kicks in then it's the same old same old, port olooososiusiirssar and fuuuuuck yawn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxDWqiUe-b0

Here's one about the universe lore. Is that better?

monkeytek
Jun 8, 2010

It wasn't an ELE that wiped out the backer funds. It was Tristan Timothy Taylor.

I hate myself for actually watching 10 seconds of that.

I need help.

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

VictorianQueerLit
Aug 25, 2017

Quavers posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/78j9iz/more_30_spoilers_from_my_avocado_friend/

And I'm back with another email excerpt with a very busy Avocado friend. Here's more questions with a lot of long answers and no filter or edits.

Q: How's testing this week?
A: So far, we've had 4 new patches each smaller than 1GB, thanks to the delta patcher. We recently had a concurrency test in the USA server to help CIG stress the servers and give them valuable data. We all had to take a Gladius and QT to any moon and traverse around the surface. The past weekend, we had a Yela and Daymar challenge testing where we traverse Yela and Daymar looking for biota, derelicts and outposts, test quantum linking of ships to Quantum Travel as a fleet, cram as many ships as possible into GrimHex, get as many ships in formation low level flying along the surface of Yela and Daymar, try to have the largest biker gang on each moon, do canyon runs in fleet formation and do formation flying entering the atmosphere with atmospheric effects. Screenshots and video captures were sent to a specific ETF thread for CIG to collect and get amused. Other than that, testing is up to you as long as you follow the patch notes' directions.

Q: How's performance in the most recent patches?
A: E and F were dogshit with constant 30K errors and CTDs. Patch G gave me 60FPS on the US server for the first time, and it didn't drop me to less than 30 FPS on a full server. Other Avocados reported occasional errors and CTDs, but I was able to test for a couple hours at a time and I was able to visit a few outposts in all 3 moons and Delamar without crashing constantly. Then H came around as an 800MB patch along with the Gladius-Moon focused testing and my FPS tanked back to the 20s, presumably because we were stressing full servers with as much Avocados as possible in staggered waves with military precision. That happened last night under Proxus and Underscore's direction while Ahmed pulled the server plug after each wave.

Q: Have there been more directed tests?
A: Besides the ones I mentioned already, no. Trading Kiosks are open for testing with the latest patch, so we might get cargo-trade-focused testing runs this weekend.

Q: Have there been new things to test since our last chat?
A: Some ships that were previously broken or floating off the landing pads are now able to be tested, like the Vanguards, Connies, Prospector, Merlin, and others. The Ursa is drivable again and the bikes are less jerky, so you can haul them to the moons and use the race track. Biker gangs are a thing now, and formation flying and QTing is online via quantum linking of ships using the COMMS MFD. Cargo and trading kiosks came online with H, so we can buy and sell cargo now with 0 profit. 1 SCU of cargo costs 10aUEC each and we can choose what ship to store them. The Caterpillar seems to have the most cargo capacity AFAIK. The Port Olisar to Levski run is the farthest and longest run, but it's satisfying to me. You can find cargo boxes you can carry from derelict sites and outposts that you can then sell, assuming you don't crash or get the dreaded errors.

Q: How accurate are the leaked patch notes?
A: Very accurate. It's an easy copy-paste leak.

Q: What's your favorite thing to do in 3.0?
A: Seriously? Cargo runs and exploring unmarked moon outposts. Each one has its own company or style, ie Rayari, ArcCorp, Benson, etc.. Some outposts are just small shelters, while other outposts have everything you need to settle in and take off your space suit because it has breathable atmosphere. You mean the interior? Yeah some have ASOP terminals, cargo boxes, office rooms, bunks, storage rooms, small kitchenettes, space weed rooms, laboratories, and creepy teddy bears. Outside the outposts, there are landing pads where you can spawn vehicles, various mining and industrial structures, solar panels, communication towers, and what look like moisture farms which explain the interior atmosphere in large outposts. Some outposts have NPC outlaws that you can kill to access the interior. This is done through the missions app with different categories like job, investigation and retrieval, but the mission system still needs some fixing and tweaking.

Q: How are the NPCs this time around?
A: CIG enabled them again, so they're running around Port Olisar and Levski, fixing poo poo, manning various stores, leaning on walls, scratching armpits, sitting on benches, having inaudible conversations, etc.. There's no NPC ships that fly around just yet. I'd prefer it that way for ETF testing because Port Olisar is busy enough as it is with space ATC enabled and dipshits loving around instead of following directions or using ATC. Miles still can't be interacted with, but I'm sure CIG is working on it.

Q: I'm sorry to ask again. When do you think we'll get PTU? CitizenCon?
A: That's way too optimistic. We just started the second phase of ETF testing aka cargo and trade. We've yet to really test the missions system. My honest prediction is not in November or December. I know the public is dying to get their hands on 3.0, but realistically don't expect it by Christmas to be brutally honest. There's a probability that CIG will open it up to PTU on New Years' Eve, but that's pure speculation and optimistic at that. I don't like to speculate, so please stop asking me about dates.

Yeah, I'm optimistic. Yeah, my friend knows about me leaking this private conversation. Yeah, that was stupid of me to not blur out his PC specs, but I think he'll be fine. Please don't send me threats this time around. I'm not the one who signed the NDA and I'm sure I'm not breaking any subreddit rules.

Enjoy and discuss.

I was going to say it's really fun when you can clearly see someones bias through their writing

Colostomy Bag posted:

From the avacado friend thread...



I guess I don't understand transparent development.

But It's apparently pretty effective so I shouldn't criticize.

"Hey everyone I just got a leak that everything is amazing and we are all in 60FPS biker gangs and flying in fleet formation through canyons and ships and people are everywhere there are NPCS and so much activity and mechanics going on! The style of all the amazing outposts and features in them alone!"

"WOW, I guess this $850 purchase is completely justified now! Just read those leaks!"

Mne nravitsya
Jul 14, 2017


Omg!?! These people are mental. They should be a watch list somewhere

tooterfish
Jul 13, 2013

Mne nravitsya posted:

Omg!?! These people are mental. They should be a watch list somewhere
There is.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

MilesK posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxDWqiUe-b0

Here's one about the universe lore. Is that better?

This fuckwit knows there is like 1 star in the whole game, right?

Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/16193-The-Shipyard-Other-Ship-Items

quote:

At present, no ship is restricted to a single class of item, with each having at least two classes and virtually all of them featuring Civilian as an option. While this system is still in development, the idea at it’s core is to prevent players from making certain ships too powerful within respective areas. We still want there to be an enormous amount of customization available, but this system we’re still developing would do things like limit the chances of finding a Military Spec 85X or a Stealth Herald simply due to people buying the best items of that type.

We don't know how you're going to earn money if you don't buy it from us. But we do know that in the name of balance only the most expensive ships will have access to the most powerful equipment.

Toops
Nov 5, 2015

-find mood stabilizers
-also,

Are you sure that's not Jin's suicide note?

Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

Toops posted:

Are you sure that's not Jin's suicide note?

If you squint at the screen you can almost make out the reflection of what looks like a hammer hitting someones wrist.

Zakutambah
Jan 17, 2007

#include <Mastodon.h>
#include <Pterodactyl.h>
#include <Triceratops.h>
#include <SaberToothed_Tiger.h>
#include <Tyrannosaurus.h>

void megazordSequence();
College Slice
So I've been off this thread since like Feb, with work getting busy and playing real games that actually exist (Stellaris dev that sometimes checks in? Please stop making expansions. My family misses me...). Saw something from Gamescom though, are they still not out with the 3.0 "Jesus" patch yet? Wasn't that the sandworm video from last year's Gamescom? What's been going since last year then? I miss the busy days of patches being pushed to the baby PU accompanied by an angry cat video....

Did they make another "Road to fuckcon" video again to jerk themselves off for not releasing anything at the con?

Did they ever get on the Spectrum?

Did Derek ever get the ball back from legal?

Ben still around?

Looks like I'm just in time for another CitCon though!

Catte back taxes:

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Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao

Zakutambah posted:

So I've been off this thread since like Feb, with work getting busy and playing real games that actually exist (Stellaris dev that sometimes checks in? Please stop making expansions. My family misses me...). Saw something from Gamescom though, are they still not out with the 3.0 "Jesus" patch yet? Wasn't that the sandworm video from last year's Gamescom? What's been going since last year then? I miss the busy days of patches being pushed to the baby PU accompanied by an angry cat video....

Did they make another "Road to fuckcon" video again to jerk themselves off for not releasing anything at the con?

Did they ever get on the Spectrum?

Did Derek ever get the ball back from legal?

Ben still around?

Looks like I'm just in time for another CitCon though!

Catte back taxes:



We'll likely see the Road To Failure vid after their big 5hr's of nothing presentation this Friday

They got on Spectrum up, but none of the backers followed and now reddit is the official gathering place for citizens

It's Legal, not legal and if you want to talk about Derek's balls visit r/dereksmart

Ben is rounder than ever

Next stop: Failure Junction on the CitCon express!

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