A Typical Goon posted:

what’s your guys favourite Chinese characteristic of socialism mines probably all the capitalism

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A report by the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission (http://www.uscc.gov/pressreleases/2011/11_10_26pr.pdf) found that “The state-owned and controlled portion of the Chinese economy is large. Based on reasonable assumptions, it appears that the visible state sector – SOEs and entities directly controlled by SOEs, accounted for more than 40% of China’s non-agricultural GDP. If the contributions of indirectly controlled entities, urban collectives and public TVEs are considered, the share of GDP owned and controlled by the state is approximately 50%.” The major banks are state-owned and their lending and deposit policies are directed by the government (much to the chagrin of China’s central bank and other pro-capitalist elements). There is no free flow of foreign capital into and out of China. Capital controls are imposed and enforced and the currency’s value is manipulated to set economic targets (much to the annoyance of the US Congress and Western hedge funds).

At the same time, the Communist party/state machine infiltrates all levels of industry and activity in China. According to a report by Joseph Fang and others (http://www.nber.org/papers/w17687), there are party organisations within every corporation that employs more than three communist party members. Each party organisation elects a party secretary. It is the party secretary who is the lynchpin of the alternative management system of each enterprise. This extends party control beyond the SOEs, partly privatised corporations and village or local government-owned enterprises into the private sector or “new economic organisations” as these are called. In 1999, only 3% of these had party cells. Now the figure is nearly 13%. As the paper puts it: “The Chinese Communist Party (CCP), by controlling the career advancement of all senior personnel in all regulatory agencies, all state-owned enterprises (SOEs), and virtually all major financial institutions state-owned enterprises (SOEs) and senior Party positions in all but the smallest non-SOE enterprises, retains sole possession of Lenin’s Commanding Heights.”

The reality is that almost all Chinese companies employing more than 100 people have an internal party cell-based control system. This is no relic of the Maoist era. It is the current structure set up specifically to maintain party control of the economy. As the Fang report says: “The CCP Organization Department manag(es) all senior promotions throughout all major banks, regulators, government ministries and agencies, SOEs, and even many officially designated non-SOE enterprises. The Party promotes people through banks,regulatory agencies, enterprises, governments, and Party organs, handling much of the national economy in one huge human resources management chart. An ambitious young cadre might begin in a government ministry, join middle management in an SOE bank, accept a senior Party position in a listed enterprise, accept promotion into a top regulatory position, accept appointment as a mayor or provincial governor, become CEO of a different SOE bank, and perhaps ultimately rise into upper echelons of the central government or CCP — all by the grace of the CCP OD.”

https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2017/10/25/xi-takes-full-control-of-chinas-future/

Fallen Hamprince posted:

homework explainer going fully insane and moving to china to live out his police state fantasy is honestly a way better conclusion to that particular forums storyline than i was expecting

Jeb! Repetition posted:

Does this mean the SA forums aren't blocked in China

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

oppression of tibetans and uyghurs that’s ten times worse than what israel does to palestinians but also a million times less known or condemned

Yossarian-22 posted:

last i checked, tibetans and uyghurs have access to running water and more than one meal a day unlike gaza

Jeb! Repetition posted:

There's been a big Free Tibet movement for a while, but I've never heard of what they're doing to the Uyghurs so you're right about that.

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Fallen Hamprince posted:

homework explainer going fully insane and moving to china to live out his police state fantasy is honestly a way better conclusion to that particular forums storyline than i was expecting

Yinlock posted:

how is he going to reconcile that with his racism though

C. Everett Koop posted:

but how is that going to work with all the sharia law britain has

Fallen Hamprince posted:

lol guyovich actually thinks comrade davos is going to usher in full communism, thats so loving cute lmao

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

this thread is a lightning rod for all the worst posters

Epic High Five posted:

ya, except for me right

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

there are literally more tibetans and uyghurs living without running or potable water than there are palestinians in palestine


but lol it’s not like in your pursuit of the oppression olympics you’ll ever find out from the chinese government or indeed care

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

this thread is a lightning rod for all the worst posters

Yinlock posted:

how is he going to reconcile that with his racism though

Epic High Five posted:

ya, except for me right

cargo cult posted:

going to bat for China as a MTW or whatever makes roughly a billion times more sense to me than going to bat for explicitly reactionary Russia as a tankie does tbh

A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

I wish I had forum stalkers

Jose posted:

i woudln't want to live somewhere i had to wear a mask with filters in order to go outside tbh

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

and yet you live in England

Jose posted:

Aren't you in Arkansas

Dreddout posted:

Arkansas got pretty clean air so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make

Dreddout posted:

Arkansas got pretty clean air so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make

Epic High Five posted:

it's infested with Huckabees tho

Epic High Five posted:

it's infested with Huckabees tho