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muscles like this! posted:There was also the Yu Gi Oh anime which even in Japan cut out the beginning of the story to get right to the part where he plays fake MTG. This means it completely glosses over the whole thing about Yugi getting possessed by ancient Egyptian king who straight up ironic revenge stuff to bad people. That actually did get adapted, just earlier by a completely different production company.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:No, Sho Aikawa is completely loving nuts even by Japanese standards and has written a bunch of other incredibly bonkers, weirdly right-wing poo poo. The 2003 Fullmetal Alchemist series was his baby too, and that goes in a... relatedly weird direction that I don't wanna spoil for those who haven't seen it (it's a legit cool idea in a vacuum). I...uh...huh. That really re-contextualizes a lot in a really, really uncomfortable way.
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Oct 26, 2017 22:22
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Just spoil it for people who don't wanna commit God knows how long to watching a cartoon
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Oct 26, 2017 22:25
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I saw it back when I was a Weeaboo dork in high school and don't remember it well enough to know what you're talking about so yeah please just spoiler tag it.
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Oct 26, 2017 22:26
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Yeah, I watched FMA years ago and don't remember anything awful aside from the weirdness of them calling their leader "The Furher", which admittedly was pretty weird.
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Oct 26, 2017 22:36
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It's been ages since I've seen it too but IIRC they strongly tie alchemy back to the real-world Holocaust and atomic bomb explosions, and the brothers eventually end up in real-world Nazi Germany.
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Oct 26, 2017 22:48
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I saw a few episodes of FMA but since I saw them out of order I couldn't follow the plot. I assumed that their leader's title was "Fuhrer King" but my brother (who is a big fan of it) later explained that it's just "Fuhrer" and "King" is his first name.
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Oct 26, 2017 22:50
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There's a thing called something like the "Gate of Truth" and it's a whole nutty rabbit hole in the manga and Brotherhood, but in the 2003 series, it's a dimensional gate to 1930s Germany. The series essentially ends with this revelation, and then there's a really weird movie set entirely on the 1930s Germany side of the gate. I don't remember it super well so I'm probably missing/loving up details, but suffice to say, dude has a fascination with Nazis.
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Oct 26, 2017 22:50
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food court bailiff posted:It's been ages since I've seen it too but IIRC they strongly tie alchemy back to the real-world Holocaust and atomic bomb explosions, and the brothers eventually end up in real-world Nazi Germany. I want to say alchemy was powered by the Holocaust too which is pretty 
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Oct 26, 2017 22:53
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I can kind of see where he got to thinking about Nazi Germany considering the country FMA takes place in is basically alternate universe Germany, complete with their own attempted genocide undertaken by a fuhrer. doesn't make him any less loving weird and hosed up tho
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Oct 26, 2017 23:00
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2003 FMA: It's not 1930s Germany but 1920s Germany, the main character ends up in our universe at the end of WWI and the movie Conqueror of Shamballah features the beer hall rebellion as an action setpiece in which he and Fritz Lang drive a car through the building. Yes, that Fritz Lang. 2003 FMA was weird.
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Oct 26, 2017 23:03
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I feel like when you're immersed in the anime subculture you start overlooking at lot of the weird stuff because you're just getting sensory overload from weirdness at all angles. With the benefit of hindsight though, goddamn.
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Oct 26, 2017 23:35
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Eh even anime fans know that FMA 2003 was weird as gently caress
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Oct 26, 2017 23:42
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It also has Mustang commit a warcrime on an unholy scale lol
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Oct 26, 2017 23:54
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The Mighty Orbots. First transforming robots/combiners I ever saw.
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Oct 27, 2017 00:23
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:Jesus. I'd say it's more likely he's a victim of bad plastic surgery. Kind of a shame, really: 
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Oct 27, 2017 00:59
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I've never watched much I Love Lucy. I can appreciate what Lucille Ball meant to comedy and to TV, but I've never been able to love Lucy. But I'm in a lobby the other morning and the end of an episode is playing on a TV. Lucy is confused by a note in Ricky's handwriting that is a long list of women's names and I think one or two men's. Being Lucy, she overreacts and grabs a gun and heads off to Ricky's stage show. She points the gun at him while he's in the middle of an act and he explains that the names belong to the dogs doing the conga on stage. Lucy's embarrassed and surprise, surprise, Ricky is exasperated by her meddling. He points the gun at the her and fires it. It's a prop gun and there's just one of the "bang" flags that come out of it. I only saw the last seven or so minutes. I don't know if it was established in act one that the gun existed and was a prop. Or if Ricky and Lucy were both aware that it was. Of course, you know full well that Lucy isn't going to actually shoot Ricky or vice-versa. But it's awkward as hell. As I said, I haven't watched enough Lucy to know if she does have her moments of genius or if 95% of the time she portrayed as flighty as all the clip shows show her. The latter approach never appealed to me at all - even as an ardent lover of the Three Stooges, the clips I saw of Lucy were too silly and no matter how accomplished Ball was that didn't age well.
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Oct 27, 2017 01:57
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Lucy loving destroys and she's a constant clever mischief maker as well as always getting hoisted by her own petard.
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Oct 27, 2017 02:48
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CharlestheHammer posted:Eh even anime fans know that FMA 2003 was weird as gently caress yeah, like, I'm an anime fan and I'm the one pointing this poo poo out as completely off the reservation there's stuff you end up being jaded to, but Nazi dimensional portals showing up in a series that previously had literally nothing to do with Nazis beyond one piece of shared terminology is... not among that stuff e: Sho Aikawa also wrote Genocyber, which is also totally loving bonkers and legitimately worth a watch (at least the first episode, you can skip the rest- the structure is super weird and kind of more like an anthology series, so you don't really lose much by doing this). Fair warning though, it's insanely loving gory to what I would consider  levels. That said, it's Nazi-free, as far as I remember!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAvgAAtvXk4 WeedlordGoku69 has a new favorite as of 03:20 on Oct 27, 2017 |
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Oct 27, 2017 03:17
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(also worth noting: the original writer of the FMA manga got pretty angry at what Aikawa did to her series, and this is why there's a second Fullmetal Alchemist anime that basically pretends the first one never happened and, iirc, actively takes swipes at it a couple times)
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Oct 27, 2017 03:21
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kupachek posted:Well I'll be damned, this might be the only japanese animation I have any interest in seeing aside from Akira. Hell, same. It looks bonkers and I'm loving the ridiculous profanity.
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Oct 27, 2017 04:00
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food court bailiff posted:It's been ages since I've seen it too but IIRC they strongly tie alchemy back to the real-world Holocaust and atomic bomb explosions, and the brothers eventually end up in real-world Nazi Germany. Wasn't there Zeppelins and poo poo or was I just stoned when I watched it? EmmyOk posted:It also has Mustang commit a warcrime on an unholy scale lol Does he burn a whole town or something because I don't remember anything about this weird rear end show. Milo and POTUS has a new favorite as of 04:10 on Oct 27, 2017 |
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Oct 27, 2017 04:03
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I remember watching anime in the early 2000s and every other anime would take some grimdark turn and the characters would end up trying to kill God or something.
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Oct 27, 2017 04:13
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Gaunab posted:I remember watching anime in the early 2000s and every other anime would take some grimdark turn and the characters would end up trying to kill God or something. I remember watching Berzerk and expecting some combat-y fantasy war thing and it ends.. well.. it's just horrid. Really horrid.
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Oct 27, 2017 04:15
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The old Berserk anime ends on the worst possible cliffhanger.
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Oct 27, 2017 04:20
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I've always found it strange we have the words horrid and horrible, two words that are similar in meanin to most people but don't use horrib or horridle
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Oct 27, 2017 04:21
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Berserk's author kinda mellowed out after he decided to spend most of his time playing Idolmaster games. There hasn't been a rape horse in the story for like 20 years.
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Oct 27, 2017 04:42
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Volcott posted:Berserk's author kinda mellowed out after he decided to spend most of his time playing Idolmaster games. There hasn't been a rape horse in the story for like 20 years. It's too long for a thread title but gently caress.
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Oct 27, 2017 04:50
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Volcott posted:Berserk's author kinda mellowed out after he decided to spend most of his time playing Idolmaster games. There hasn't been a rape horse in the story for like 20 years. To be fair that is more because he decided actually writing the story was for chumps.
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Rough Lobster posted:It's too long for a thread title but gently caress. TV episodes that did not age well: no rape horses for 20 years
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Oct 27, 2017 05:12
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CharlestheHammer posted:To be fair that is more because he decided actually writing the story was for chumps. 
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:yeah, like, I'm an anime fan and I'm the one pointing this poo poo out as completely off the reservation I think like in my head I accepted the world of FMA as an alternate reality to our own because there were a lot of themes similar to WW2 like the "totally not Jewish/Roma" analogue, similar to like Valkyria chronicles. So jumping over to our timeline I dunno...worked for me? The thing is I know I saw Conqueror of Shamballa but I cannot remember a single loving thing about it which seems so weird now that you're telling me all this poo poo.
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:The old Berserk anime ends on the worst possible cliffhanger. The Berserk manga starts with a short arc showing the main character as a tortured loner demon hunter, and then there's a long arc exploring backstory with only a few supernatural events, one of which is meeting the mysterious Skull Knight. He finds camaraderie in a band of mercenaries, but then their leader sacrifices them to become a demon lord and pulls them into a hell dimension. They all die except for the main character and his girlfriend. As they lie helpless in a demons' clutches, the Skull Knight deus ex machinas in and rescues them. They recover physically but not psychologically, and the main character gets cool new weapons, vows revenge, and sets out into the world. End flashback. So the first episode of the anime shows him as a tough wanderer who kills a demon. The rest of the 25-episode series is the flashback arc. However, they never introduce the Skull Knight. The last two episodes are them fighting to survive the hell dimension, and it gets to right before the Skull Knight appears, with the main character restrained, missing an eye and an arm, and blacking out, forced to watch as his girlfriend is raped by their former leader. Then the credits roll. The end. Then there's a post-credits that takes place after he recovers, reminding us that, oh yeah, the fact that this was a flashback means he escaped. Somehow.
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All episodes of "Felicity". Today Felicity would have been a body positive snowflake with pink hair, a tumblr and a hatred for all things but herself. Think Lena Dunham but with pink hair. Rambling Robot has a new favorite as of 05:36 on Oct 27, 2017 |
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Oct 27, 2017 05:33
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Rambling Robot posted:All episodes of "Felicity". Today Felicity would have been a body positive snowflake with pink hair, a tumblr and a hatred for all things but herself. idgi
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Oct 27, 2017 05:54
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My guess is that since Felicity is about a smart high school girl that gave up all her plans to be with a guy that she has a crush on, that today that wouldn't be an acceptable show in our society. But even the day Felicity started airing the critics were saying the premise was dumb as hell.
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Oct 27, 2017 05:57
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Mu Zeta posted:My guess is that since Felicity is about a smart high school girl that gave up all her plans to be with a guy that she has a crush on, that today that wouldn't be an acceptable show in our society. But even the day Felicity started airing the critics were saying the premise was dumb as hell. Sounds like it will actually age very well in the ultra-reactionary 2020's.
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Oct 27, 2017 06:01
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It's not like people that age (and also other ages) don't frequently do equally stupid things because ~I'm in love~.
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Oct 27, 2017 07:55
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Mu Zeta posted:My guess is that since Felicity is about a smart high school girl that gave up all her plans to be with a guy that she has a crush on, that today that wouldn't be an acceptable show in our society. But even the day Felicity started airing the critics were saying the premise was dumb as hell. Inescapable Duck posted:It's not like people that age (and also other ages) don't frequently do equally stupid things because ~I'm in love~. Something something Romeo and Juliet.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Something something Romeo and Juliet. Those were literal teenagers (albeit that was pretty normal for the setting/time period), so. Isn't there literally a show airing titled 'Crazy Ex-Girlfriend' from the perspective of one?
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