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Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


holy poo poo why is the fidelity so low in their fake star citizen convention ship trailer

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Quavers
Feb 26, 2016

You clearly don't understand game development

Taintrunner posted:



holy poo poo why is the fidelity so low in their fake star citizen convention ship trailer

Downgraded for console plebs

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



Quavers posted:

Downgraded for console plebs

OPTANE makes it better.

It makes everything better.

Video-quality: Better
Network speed: Better
NPC Happiness: Better
Weapon effectiveness: Better
Pineapple on pizza: well almost everything

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


he looks worse than a cop in a 6 year old deus ex game

Toops
Nov 5, 2015

-find mood stabilizers
-also,

SomethingJones posted:

Sick to the tits, sick to the loving tits man

It's *actually* depressing seeing CIG throw together a video and all the loving spergs suddenly grow a set of balls and start harrassing Derek. It's pathetic.

And Elite is loosing its highground imo because Frontier can't figure out how to make interesting gameplay without annoying another set of spergs parked on the Frontier forum for 20 years.

Seriously, and I'm not paying lip service to Codezombie (I am a bit), but I played Dirt Rally all bloody day and it was an absolute thrill. The whole steering wheel came detached from my desk at one point, I was giving that Lancia the whip let me tell you. That's how you nail gameplay and realism and make it fun, absolute perfect balance. I'll get at least a year out of that game. How in the gently caress do you make a spaceship game with amazing graphics and handling less exciting, less gripping, less fun, less exhilarating by orders of magnitude, than a rally game with cars from the 1960s in it.

How

How

Yeah behind this whole facade, all the humor, silliness, scammy nonsense and buffoonery from CR/CIG, lies the demon-haunted world, a near-perfect microcosm of our species' descent into a homogonized, normalized techno-retarded blob of pseudo-zombie robots. Cats, tied to sticks, frozen winter poo poo, etc.

It's still hilarious to me, but a man can get tired of watching the gullible praise their captors.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Quavers posted:

Downgraded for console plebs

You forgot to add "filthy".

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

SCtrumpHaters posted:

I'm not a true believer you aren't making any sense. I've posted here for almost two years.

Exactly! Back then you showed us your hairy scrotum and that was actually, dare I say it, ballsy? But this is just sad. How the mighty hath fallen...

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Hello, I'm back.

I watched the 1 hour trimmed stream of Nothing But The Steak that CIG put up on Twitch, and here are my thoughts:


1. the 'game' as presented looks nice. The city looks great, and there's a good number of NPCs wandering about or standing on chairs as dictated by their incredible AI that for some reason the further out the 'player' gets from the centre of the station the more it seems to choose just standing in one place occupying space almost as if all of the animations are hand-crafted and they ran out of time.
2. Honestly, the city looks great when he's on foot. Especially helpful is that the stamina system is disabled within it so you can sprint from one end to the other without having a heart attack. It's single-player RPG-level quality in terms of visuals.
3. Their interaction system is still poo poo and unintuitive where you have to know what's interactable before you can focus on it to get interactions. This is seriously awful and I have no idea how people haven't made a fuss about having to 'look' at some random button on your spaceship to get an Engine On option that also allows you to turn the Engine Off when it already is.
4. Flying slowly around buildings making it painfully obvious there is no code to handle collisions with them.
5. Surface of the planet looks nice.
6. Time to travel for EIGHT loving MINUTES!?!? Who the gently caress designed this, and Chris says it will actually take EVEN LONGER to get to a quest destination in the real game. Lmao, and they make fun of Elite for not having content.

7. Break time for tools discussion. This where poo poo gets real.
8. The planet-spanning city is procedurally generated because otherwise it would be completely impossible to physically do - however, the tool they present is painfully labour-intensive in terms of putting down height maps and dictating zones and stuff. Why would you need this tool if it's procedural? You wouldn't, it would be a list of rules about how buildings clump and how landing zones are spaced and what they contain. They demonstrate 'reseeding' a neighbourhood outside of whatever Blade Runner City is called - why are the neighbourhoods generated on a different seed? The whole planet should be one seed that dictates everything. They are 'procedurally' populating the planet with manually created content. That is buttfucking insane, and explains why previous planets were obviously copy-and-paste tiles. Visually it's more excusable when it's man-made objects that could be standardised like buildings, but the previous crater repetition makes it obvious this is how they're doing their generation.
9. They don't mention how the interior tool is connected to the building assets at all, so I'm entirely convinced it can create impossible spaces. They have probably worked around this by giving it a smaller footprint than any of their possible buildings, or making buildings just massive squares at the street level. It's nothing amazing, but watching it manually place pipe assets and poo poo during generation is insane. Again, hugely manual labour intensive despite being sold as a time saver it is just a basic level editor with automated decoration placement.
10. I forget the other tool they showed but it had the same issues of not actually saving any labour costs above having basic tools for designing a game. Certainly not on the level that you need to generate planet-wide amounts of content.

11. Talking about placing more landing zones and populating them. The whole planet is uninteractable window-dressing outside of these landing zones, so no talk about how they're going to restrict people to the zones they have manually created to interact with. No reason to go to other zones because all of them will have the same basic content just shuffled a little more.

12. Wow we're on another planet that's largely the same as all the other planets we've seen down to using the same smoggy smokestacks we just saw on Coruscan't. Apparently this is a planet where there's no federal oversight so there's some wildlife here that drifts around and eats garbage. I have named them Citizens.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Taintrunner posted:



holy poo poo why is the fidelity so low in their fake star citizen convention ship trailer

He has one loving dirty neck.
Clean yo poo poo man.

SomethingJones
Mar 6, 2016

<3

Toops posted:

Yeah behind this whole facade, all the humor, silliness, scammy nonsense and buffoonery from CR/CIG, lies the demon-haunted world, a near-perfect microcosm of our species' descent into a homogonized, normalized techno-retarded blob of pseudo-zombie robots. Cats, tied to sticks, frozen winter poo poo, etc.

It's still hilarious to me, but a man can get tired of watching the gullible praise their captors.

It's not the descent of the species it's the descent of the culture. Other than that I agree.

Canine Blues Arooo
Jan 7, 2008

when you think about it...i'm the first girl you ever spent the night with

Grimey Drawer

SCtrumpHaters posted:

I'm not a true believer.

I just don't think the gimmick has enough 'depth' to be funny. The SC drone crowd has way to 'scripted' of a response set to be able to sell individuality on a random forums account.

Bring up one of the literally dozen features that isn't in the game? "It will be eventually" or "That wasn't a promise / You misinterpreted Chris!"
Mention that the game is taking a lot longer to build than it maybe should? "They are making really good progress! See, I can do *trivial thing* and that means whole secret feature sets exist!"
Remind them that 3.0 is delayed by more than a year and is missing a lot of features? "*Feature* wasn't promised / You misinterpreted Chris" and/or "They are really polishing it!"
Insist the entire game looks like a hilarious mess run by incompetent leaders? "You don't understand video game development"

There isn't enough to actually pivot on to express individuality in the gimmick, which I think is why it's just not interesting.

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao
https://i.imgur.com/rMb6PfZ.gifv

Chin
Dec 12, 2005

GET LOST 2013
-RALPH

Ghostlight posted:

no talk about how they're going to restrict people to the zones they have manually created to interact with.
It's been established for some time now by Chris that they want to have flight control corridors that restrict where players can fly on populated planets or near population centers. The entire demo was based around doing stuff players aren't even meant to be able to do in the hypothetical game that will never exist.

thatguy
Feb 5, 2003
Thread is really loving bad again.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
They managed to sell another 58 of those Pioneer ships in the last 24 hours



(insert slide whistle fart sound)

MilesK
Nov 5, 2015

SomethingJones posted:

CR didn't say "we have mocap for vaulting" he said "vaulting and parkour and sliding around are coming in 2.2"

I'm pointing out that it didn't, therefore ergo QED CR said an untruth, therefore fulfilling your request for someone to point out one single lie.

Actually the transcript you posted says they were working on vaulting and that new weapons would be released in 2.2, 2.3, and 2.4. Maybe you misunderstood?

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



Isn't there sliding in Crysis 2 and parkour like elements, or am I thinking of FEAR, which was released like a million years ago

Chin posted:

It's been established for some time now by Chris that they want to have flight control corridors that restrict where players can fly on populated planets or near population centers. The entire demo was based around doing stuff players aren't even meant to be able to do in the hypothetical game that will never exist.
So not only are they telling people they'll be doing things they can't show yet but they're showing people things they tell them they can't do.

Innovating in the space of bullshots here.

SomethingJones
Mar 6, 2016

<3

MilesK posted:

Actually the transcript you posted says they were working on vaulting and that new weapons would be released in 2.2, 2.3, and 2.4. Maybe you misunderstood?

Now you're just trying to wind me up

You know, there's things like VAULTING and uh, you know SLIDING and uh, different kinds of... STANCES that we have and there's... a lot more WEAPONS that we have... and they're all getting rolled out and we're HONING it and you guys are gonna be playing it in 2.2 and 2.3 and 2.4, and... then, uh, when we've got that basic set, we... together we will sort of... turn on the MAP for Star Marine...

Where in that gibberish does it say "we are working on"

I've bolded where it says "they're all getting rolled out"

'Turning the map on for Star Marine' tells you that it's all bollocks anyway


they're all getting rolled out
you guys are gonna be playing it in 2.2

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao
https://i.imgur.com/KMDvD2t.gifv

Creed Reunion Tour
Jul 3, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Grimey Drawer

Taintrunner posted:



holy poo poo why is the fidelity so low in their fake star citizen convention ship trailer

That looks like the guy from the new star trek.

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
I can’t do this anymore





gently caress these people

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
They even archered the goddamn box in another pic

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao

Combat Theory posted:

Yes and I indeed just returned from my trip there.

After catching up with the thread again I see some of the pictures I took did entertain the thread quite a bit :)

I'm sorry I can't update too much on my personal con of the citizens experience (which was fabulous) here without doxxing myself hardcore. I will say however that I disagree with beers assessment that cig calmed the woes of the citizens enough to keep it up for the foreseeable future, after watching the reactions of the people there. "where the gently caress is the gameplay" has been tossed around like a greeting sentence.

E: I wasn't the only goon there by the way

The Derek Smart guestbook shot was the best, in a just world the reaction shots would end up on liveleak

Was the audience as bored and sad as they looked during the marathon of presentations as they looked on the stream?
Were the 'where the gently caress is the gameplay" greetings limited to the subset of known yucksters or a general theme?
Did they let people in the building on time or did they have to wait on the sidewalk for an extra hour or two like normal?
Was it as much of a sausage fest as it looked on this end?
Did Crobbler make his rounds on the floor soliciting drinks?

so many questions

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
because where the gently caress is the gameplay

#600reasons

Combat Theory
Jul 16, 2017

Thoatse posted:



Was the audience as bored and sad as they looked during the marathon of presentations as they looked on the stream?
Were the 'where the gently caress is the gameplay" greetings limited to the subset of known yucksters or a general theme?
Did they let people in the building on time or did they have to wait on the sidewalk for an extra hour or two like normal?
Was it as much of a sausage fest as it looked on this end?
Did Crobbler make his rounds on the floor soliciting drinks?

so many questions

Oh man we gotta hop on voice comms one time to discuss that through.

Tldr

1. Yes
2. Hitting a bit too close to home
3. They had to wait for several hours on the sidewalk and the bar didn't open until 6PM
4. The only female I saw was a hooker
5. No idea, I think he dissappeared apart from his stage presence

Combat Theory fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Oct 30, 2017

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Combat Theory posted:


4. The only female I saw was a hooker
Go on...

Quavers
Feb 26, 2016

You clearly don't understand game development

Combat Theory posted:

4. The only female I saw was a hooker

That's not nice to say about Sandi. She's a tickle movie star

Golli
Jan 5, 2013



Well, hats off to any hooker willing to take that escort gig. Shows some serious dedication to the craft.

Toops
Nov 5, 2015

-find mood stabilizers
-also,
Very good article by Polygon. Plenty of facts with a nicely obfuscated skepticism:

Star Citizen’s fan convention introduced a planet-sized city right out of Blade Runner: “This is pretty much Coruscant”

quote:

"The surface of Arc Corporation, while interesting, isn’t intended for players to interact with in-game. In the future, Roberts said, Arc Corporation may include more than one location where players can land their ships and engage with vendors and quest givers in a fixed, social hub with other players. But, for now, the goal is to design an interesting landscape and nothing more.

The demo included no combat, no quests and no traditional, linear narrative of any kind. It was effectively a demonstration of environmental storytelling."

quote:

"The 3.0 version of the project’s PU is currently in an advanced testing stage, and is expected to be in the hands of backers imminently, though no release date has been given.

After the 3.0 update, Roberts said his team would be focusing on “date-driven, not feature or content-driven” updates in order to give the community a “more regular experience.” Neither the Squadron 42 single-player game nor the Star Citizen PU have a release date of any kind.
"

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



Seriously did someone tip her off to the fact she could make thousands selling jpegs of her space ships and promising to blow their minds later

Toops
Nov 5, 2015

-find mood stabilizers
-also,

Golli posted:

Well, hats off to any hooker willing to take that escort gig. Shows some serious dedication to the craft.

How many Citizens are hoping this is what Chris means by "escort missions?"

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao

Combat Theory posted:

Oh man we gotta hop on voice comms one time to discuss that through.

Tldr

1. Yes
2. Hitting a bit too close to home
3. They had to wait for several hours on the sidewalk and the bar didn't open until 6PM
4. The only female I saw was a hooker
5. No idea, I think he dissappeared apart from his stage presence


:laffo:

I look forward to our chat, sounds like there was more shitshow beneath the boring stupid surface of their interminable presentation which for the first time they managed not the poo poo their pants during

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Spiderdrake posted:

Seriously did someone tip her off to the fact she could make thousands selling jpegs of her space ships and promising to blow their minds later

Cloud Imperium Brothels: We're working on the most amazing blowjob ever! Just $500, delivery SOON.
*3 years later*
Buyer: Uh, I bought the blowjob three years ago. Now I've been sent a jpeg of a dog's testicle. WTF?
CIB: One of our whores changed it during development and they've since left the company. No refunds!

Combat Theory
Jul 16, 2017

Thoatse posted:

:laffo:

I look forward to our chat, sounds like there was more shitshow beneath the boring stupid surface of their interminable presentation which for the first time they managed not the poo poo their pants during

Pants were shat. But that's for private talk

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Golli posted:

Well, hats off to any hooker willing to take that escort gig. Shows some serious dedication to the craft.

The inevitable consequence of being a lone female in the verse...

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon
Come on man, I keep a list of lies on the front page.

Star Citizen Litany of Lies
Original Promise: "Single Player – Offline or Online(Drop in / Drop out co-op play)"
New Truth: Isolated co-op missions outside the campaign.

Original Promise: "Mod-able multiplayer (hosted by YOU)"
New Truth: "We will be live and in operation for some time before anybody even looks at private servers."

Original Promise: "We have backed Oculus Rift and will support it in Star Citizen / Squadron 42."
New Truth: "Sorry to say, do not hold your breath for this."

Original Promise: "Star Citizen will launch with 100 star systems."
New Truth: 5-10 star systems at launch.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



thatguy posted:

Thread is really loving bad again.

sorry for writing my thots :(

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon
Or I suppose someone could explain how everything they said about scope and schedule turned out to be a lie too.

SCtrumpHaters
Oct 28, 2017

by Nyc_Tattoo

Refuted. In order

1. Yes, this plan changed from 2012. ED had the same thing happen with online/offline. This was part of the scope change.
2. Mod able multiplayer will come. It is not a priority. This is not a lie. Its going to happen and theres zero evidence to believe it wont. If you want to get super literal people already edit config files easily already.
3. The dont hold your breath was a junior lighting artist who doesnt know poo poo. Since then CIG has made several statements contradicting Parry and are implementing TrackIR in prep for VR. There is no reason to believe VR isn't coming.
4. This was refuted a week or two after this happened on RSI. You know this. They've shown they can create large play areas fairly quickly. Like I get its funny to doom and gloom I did the same but you have to be careful not to huff your own bullshit too much.

These aren't lies in any but the most tortured sense of the word.

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Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

SCtrumpHaters posted:

Refuted. In order

1. Yes, this plan changed from 2012. ED had the same thing happen with online/offline. This was part of the scope change.
2. Mod able multiplayer will come. It is not a priority. This is not a lie. Its going to happen and theres zero evidence to believe it wont. If you want to get super literal people already edit config files easily already.
3. The dont hold your breath was a junior lighting artist who doesnt know poo poo. Since then CIG has made several statements contradicting Parry and are implementing TrackIR in prep for VR. There is no reason to believe VR isn't coming.
4. This was refuted a week or two after this happened on RSI. You know this. They've shown they can create large play areas fairly quickly. Like I get its funny to doom and gloom I did the same but you have to be careful not to huff your own bullshit too much.

These aren't lies in any but the most tortured sense of the word.

Whose burner troll account are you?

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