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Squallege posted:I think if items weren't allowed Roshi popping people into bottles would've been cheating. It was. Champa called him out on it and tried to have Universe 7 judged for it, but the Zenos thought it was cool so it was declared legal.
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I just remembered when GT brought Freeza/Cell back and how stupidly horrible that was and didn't match their personalities (or abilities) at all.
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Blaze Dragon posted:It was. Champa called him out on it and tried to have Universe 7 judged for it, but the Zenos thought it was cool so it was declared legal. Huh, must've missed that. At least now that brings credence to the rule of cool
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Squallege posted:Huh, must've missed that. At least now that brings credence to the rule of cool Specifically, they cleared it because Beerus said it was an "accessory". And, what are earrings if not accessories?
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Oct 30, 2017 19:03
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tbh it would have made a lot more sense if Champa had taught them the Fusion Dance before the tournament. U6 is a mirror to U7 so it's not a stretch to assume that Metamorans exist there as well.
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Oct 30, 2017 19:19
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TrilliontonNixon posted:tbh it would have made a lot more sense if Champa had taught them the Fusion Dance before the tournament. U6 is a mirror to U7 so it's not a stretch to assume that Metamorans exist there as well. Even if they do, there's no reason why Champa would know they can fuse together. He didn't even know about Frost, emperor of the universe, showing that he knows even less about his universe than Beerus who at least knew fully well about Freeza, he just didn't care. Meanwhile, it'd make very little sense if Champa didn't know about the Potara considering they're godly artifacts used by the fatass his life is linked to.
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Oct 30, 2017 19:22
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https://twitter.com/HellPockets/status/925036700681695232
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Oct 30, 2017 19:40
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Obviously faked. That attack should have done nothing to Nappa. 
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Oct 30, 2017 19:45
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This game is so loving mean.
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Darko posted:I just remembered when GT brought Freeza/Cell back and how stupidly horrible that was and didn't match their personalities (or abilities) at all. I still can't get over Goku being all "tsk tsk, I thought you two were better than that" over Freeza and Cell stealing techniques. That's Cell's entire thing! And Freeza has no sense of honor! And he already used the Kienzan on Namek anyway!
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Oct 30, 2017 19:50
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that's also Goku's entire thing, the gently caress
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I love how GT seemed to think the villains would some how get weaker after they died It's not like Goku was STRONGER in base form in GT. They spent a good long time going over how he really wasn't and how he could only surpass his DBZ era strength when he got his adult body back with SSJ4 And yeah, Kale's skin getting lighter when she transforms is unfortunate and really weird.
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Burkion posted:I love how GT seemed to think the villains would some how get weaker after they died And then Super shits on that with Freiza outright training himself superior in Hell with pure mental hate If they include SSj4 in some form, it'll be my personal confirmation they did inf act murder GT to harvest its gross organs for a better purpose
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Oct 30, 2017 19:55
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Burkion posted:I love how GT seemed to think the villains would some how get weaker after they died Kale is pretty consistent with "everything gets pale as a shorthand for glowing" that they mostly used on OG DBZ. Super Saiyan hair was often practically white. That said, I agree that it's a bad look. Let Kale Be Brown!
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Oct 30, 2017 19:57
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Between that and the spammable Shin Kihoko, Tien is very quickly climbing my "I don't care how bad they are I have to use them" tier list
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Pureauthor posted:Obviously faked. That attack should have done nothing to Nappa. Ah, but don't you see? Chiaotzu has been training for four months on how to explode better.
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Chiaotzu's eyes having tears in them is amazing and I have to give arcs credit once again for their amazing attention to detail.
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https://twitter.com/tatsunical/status/925077459153797120 Video of it
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Chiaotzu's Warm Salty Tears posted:The controls are made accessible so everyone can enjoy fighting in battle Future Gohan smiling glad in the afterlife shortly before he's erased from existence
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Oct 30, 2017 20:18
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I don't think zen-oh erased future universe 7 proper since when they get back theres cosmic stuff floating around iirc. I think he just blew poo poo up in an immature fashion.
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Stairmaster posted:I don't think zen-oh erased future universe 7 proper since when they get back theres cosmic stuff floating around iirc. I think he just blew poo poo up in an immature fashion. He erased everything period. He is all that’s left What does a non existent multiverse look like anyway
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Kashuno posted:He erased everything period. He is all that’s left Apparently it's a massive sparkling void of rainbow entropy
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So in Dragon Ball Z's anime it is explained that Goku became good by hitting his head and losing his memories and thus being a optimistic carefree child. But from what I understand, that isn't how it happened in the manga?
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punk rebel ecks posted:So in Dragon Ball Z's anime it is explained that Goku became good by hitting his head and losing his memories and thus being a optimistic carefree child. But from what I understand, that isn't how it happened in the manga? It was until Toriyama retconned it fairly recently. I guess he realized brain damage wasn't a great thing to make some one a good person, so instead Grandpa Gohan was just a good person who taught Goku not to be a little poo poo
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Oct 30, 2017 22:16
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Didn't Dragonball Minus basically made it Superman and retcon that Bardock was actually a good Sayian among the blood thirsty ones?
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Oct 30, 2017 22:23
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Shindragon posted:Didn't Dragonball Minus basically made it Superman and retcon that Bardock was actually a good Sayian among the blood thirsty ones? If he was so good, they why was Raditz such an rear end in a top hat?
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Oct 30, 2017 22:32
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I thought he wasn't a 'good' Saiyan, just a guy who looked at this whole deal and went "No actually, gently caress this, no"
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Oct 30, 2017 22:32
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Also he still fell and hit his head and got amnesia, I guess, but not outright brain damage that changed his personality.
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Blaze Dragon posted:Even if they do, there's no reason why Champa would know they can fuse together. He didn't even know about Frost, emperor of the universe, showing that he knows even less about his universe than Beerus who at least knew fully well about Freeza, he just didn't care. re: Bardock, he seemed to be "humane" for a Saiyan; he had a committed spouse and in the special he had team spirit.
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Kurui Reiten posted:Also he still fell and hit his head and got amnesia, I guess, but not outright brain damage that changed his personality. The whole amnesia thing is one of those things that wouldn't have ever been necessary in the hands of a more farsighted author. It would have been a far more compelling story if Kakarot had come to Earth as your usual lovely saiyan kid, but wound up learning to be a good person as the plot went on. Basically, Vegeta's character arc should have been Goku's.
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Her supers better involve: Shooting people in the face Massive Bribery all the capsules. every single capsule.
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TrilliontonNixon posted:The whole amnesia thing is one of those things that wouldn't have ever been necessary in the hands of a more farsighted author. It would have been a far more compelling story if Kakarot had come to Earth as your usual lovely saiyan kid, but wound up learning to be a good person as the plot went on. Basically, Vegeta's character arc should have been Goku's. On the other hand I feel like it's been a strange but interesting look into the idea of Goku having CHANGED in that moment, and the consequence is this man we have now, who will not and can not stop fighting, even as it literally destroys the multiverse around him. It's like he hit his head and got locked in there. Forever that child in some way. And this is the first time Goku is being challenged on it and feeling something isn't right with how life is going.
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"Bulma is listed as one of the playable characters alongside Goku, Frieza, Vegeta and Majin Buu." god drat loving right she deserves to be listed alongside those four
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TrilliontonNixon posted:The whole amnesia thing is one of those things that wouldn't have ever been necessary in the hands of a more farsighted author. It would have been a far more compelling story if Kakarot had come to Earth as your usual lovely saiyan kid, but wound up learning to be a good person as the plot went on. Basically, Vegeta's character arc should have been Goku's. Dragon Ball went for sixteen volumes before aliens were even explicitly introduced, before that it was the lighthearted adventures of a carefree monkey boy. Goku following Vegeta's arc would not have been a better take on the same story, it would have just been an entirely different story.
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Shindragon posted:Didn't Dragonball Minus basically made it Superman and retcon that Bardock was actually a good Sayian among the blood thirsty ones? Kinda. He at least had a loving relationship with his wife and actually cared about goku. The ova version is my preferred telling since it's way more interesting.
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Bardock the 'great scientist' > Bardock the great scientist I like Goku being raised good rather than just getting donked on the head, the implication that he was otherwise just genetically destined to be evil is pretty nasty
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multijoe posted:Dragon Ball went for sixteen volumes before aliens were even explicitly introduced, before that it was the lighthearted adventures of a carefree monkey boy. Goku following Vegeta's arc would not have been a better take on the same story, it would have just been an entirely different story. That's kinda what I'm getting at. Toriyama never plans out his stories, so you end up with all kinds of haphazard patches like this. "So it turns out that Goku was actually sent by aliens to depopulate the Earth." "Then why wasn't he doing that in Dragon Ball?" "Uhhhh he hit his head and forgot!"
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It’s fantasy you can bullshit Saiyan kids being sublimated crazy by tech in their pods or whatever, and gently caress, Saiyans ARE naturally violent, fight obsessed, and domineering, and Goku still didn’t lose it, it was just tempered by Gohan, Rossi, Krillin, and mild brain damage
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