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Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes
oh yeah I remember now how the in-game quotes pretty much tells you what the canon ending is

gaia wipes out sparta

morgan tries to go for the energy credit victory

the university gets a lot of late-game techs/secret projects like teleporters and stuff

which makes Miriam go batshit insane because she basically thinks that star trek transporters kills you and uses psigates to launch some sort of last ditch assault

university builds voice of the planet, gaia steals victory from them by building transcendence first (maybe cuz zakharov was too busy fighting off miriam to spare the minerals)

Typo has issued a correction as of 07:25 on Nov 2, 2017

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 51 minutes!

rudatron posted:

lal is the only good guy, the rest of alpha centauri are all psychotic fanatics, how did none of you pick this up

I must dissent with this post.

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
if you take the text as presented, he's the only normal human being, and that's part of the appeal of the SMAC, because it takes everything to extremes. Lal is the straight man.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013
Probation
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Chairman Yang is beyond "good" or "evil."

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
yang is an obsessive control freak who's okay with crimes against humanity. That's 'evil'.

Tiny Bug Child
Sep 11, 2004

Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

Typo posted:

oh yeah I remember now how the in-game quotes pretty much tells you what the canon ending is

gaia wipes out sparta

morgan tries to go for the energy credit victory

the university gets a lot of late-game techs/secret projects like teleporters and stuff

which makes Miriam go batshit insane because she basically thinks that star trek transporters kills you and uses psigates to launch some sort of last ditch assault

university builds voice of the planet, gaia steals victory from them by building transcendence first (maybe cuz zakharov was too busy fighting off miriam to spare the minerals)

iirc miriam was about to get conquered so she led her army through a psi gate with the other side turned off

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
literally lmao if you didn't play as colonel santiago every run through smac. also all of the secret project videos are the best sci-fi ever created

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L5JgTkxAkg

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

rudatron posted:

yang is an obsessive control freak who's okay with crimes against humanity. That's 'evil'.

there is some excellent yang fan fiction based on the life of a regular drone worker living in the hive

it was pretty great although I don't know if it still exists on the web

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

rudatron posted:

yang is an obsessive control freak who's okay with crimes against humanity. That's 'evil'.

what do i care for your suffering? Pain, even agony, is no more than information before the senses, data fed to the computer of the mind

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

Top City Homo posted:

there is some excellent yang fan fiction based on the life of a regular drone worker living in the hive

it was pretty great although I don't know if it still exists on the web

find homework explainer's fan fiction for us please

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013
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What;s so bad about Zakharov anyway? He seems like a boring science guy.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

What;s so bad about Zakharov anyway? He seems like a boring science guy.

lack of ethics leads to extra drones

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013
Probation
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Jose posted:

lack of ethics leads to extra drones

Just like the United States.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
its a bad idea to compare any SMAC faction to the US because they're all that much better. even miriam

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Yandat posted:

lal is obama

weak-kneed moderate that gets his poo poo pushed in by even the slightest aggression, checks out

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

What;s so bad about Zakharov anyway? He seems like a boring science guy.

quote:

The Academician's private residences shall remain off-limits to the Genetic Inspectors. We possess no retroviral capability, we are not researching retroviral engineering, and we shall not allow this Council to violate faction privileges in the name of this ridiculous witch hunt!

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Jose posted:

tfw you fusion planetbuster every city on the planet that isn't yours in the same turn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqBrw3rQvKo

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Jose posted:

its a bad idea to compare any SMAC faction to the US because they're all that much better. even miriam

us is miriam and morgan in an uneasy alliance

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

us is miriam and morgan in an uneasy alliance

at this point the us is a mind-worm infectee

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Recon Rover Rick is fake news

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://my.mixtape.moe/ffkrxp.mp4

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOQ3EQjIo5I&t=22s

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We

rudatron posted:

lal is the only good guy, the rest of alpha centauri are all psychotic fanatics, how did none of you pick this up

probably racism

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We

Jose posted:

its a bad idea to compare any SMAC faction to the US because they're all that much better. even miriam

the only nerve stapling i get irl is reading ur posts

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Tiny Bug Child posted:

iirc miriam was about to get conquered so she led her army through a psi gate with the other side turned off

i never thought about it like that and that's actually pretty creepy lol

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

rudatron posted:

if you take the text as presented, he's the only normal human being, and that's part of the appeal of the SMAC, because it takes everything to extremes. Lal is the straight man.

lal is unethical as gently caress lol

he basically pulls rank to get his wife on the spaceship to centauri even though she's unqualified to be on the mission

then she dies on the spaceship in events preceding the game so he feels guilty about it

so instead of moving on his literally clones her in the events of the game so he can "love her again"

ofc cloning doesn't work like fully adult version of a person comes out of the vats, so it's more like he clones his wife and gets her as a child and is gonna groom her to be his lover even though he's literally like 100 years older

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

rudatron posted:

lal is the only good guy, the rest of alpha centauri are all psychotic fanatics, how did none of you pick this up
Lal is a creep who would rather bring back his ex from the dead than find someone new, and his entire worldview is backwards-looking. His aim is control, in a very old fashioned way, of very old fashioned people by the time the game's set. All the characters are flawed. That's why it's interesting.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Typo posted:

lal is unethical as gently caress lol

he basically pulls rank to get his wife on the spaceship to centauri even though she's unqualified to be on the mission

then she dies on the spaceship in events preceding the game so he feels guilty about it

so instead of moving on his literally clones her in the events of the game so he can "love her again"

ofc cloning doesn't work like fully adult version of a person comes out of the vats, so it's more like he clones his wife and gets her as a child and is gonna groom her to be his lover even though he's literally like 100 years older
right exactly while I was posting this lol

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We
every smac leader is pretty creepy and authoritarian if you think about it because like even the most “democratic” oriented ones end up getting longevity treatment to live and rule their factions with their loyal minions for hundreds of years

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes
also morgan is evil cuz he literally makes space internet explorer and bundles it with space windows 95

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless
democracy is a scam, man will always need a king

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Baloogan posted:

find homework explainer's fan fiction for us please

it basically had drones walking down dark tunnels constantly monitored, people sleeping naked next to each other to promote reproduction and various pretty well done scenes with the chairman questioning a subordinate.

the whole thing ended with the creation of a planet buster

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme
i cant for the life of me believe that morgan would be a viable faction

how the hell do you transplant an exploitative non producing casino ideology into a place that has no goods or consumers?

its like having libertarians start one of their fail settlements

how will it not just immediately fall apart?

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Top City Homo posted:

i cant for the life of me believe that morgan would be a viable faction

how the hell do you transplant an exploitative non producing casino ideology into a place that has no goods or consumers?

its like having libertarians start one of their fail settlements

how will it not just immediately fall apart?

a police state which then creates a market

morgan isn't a libertarian he wants a free market not a free society

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We

Top City Homo posted:

i cant for the life of me believe that morgan would be a viable faction

how the hell do you transplant an exploitative non producing casino ideology into a place that has no goods or consumers?

its like having libertarians start one of their fail settlements

how will it not just immediately fall apart?

so long as there’s a population there’s consumers and so long as there’s consumers there’s goods, real or virtual, they will want

for real though don’t overanalyse smac factions lol. like do you reckon a bunch of anarchohackers could run an entire civilisation? or some hippies could survive on an abjectly hostile planet? uhhh

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We
like realistically the only faction that should be able to make it past the first mind worm attack is probably the spartans

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
the mind worms seem real big fans of the hippies

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

so long as there’s a population there’s consumers and so long as there’s consumers there’s goods, real or virtual, they will want

for real though don’t overanalyse smac factions lol. like do you reckon a bunch of anarchohackers could run an entire civilisation? or some hippies could survive on an abjectly hostile planet? uhhh

sure, they'll just compromise ideology with reality

Tiny Bug Child
Sep 11, 2004

Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

Typo posted:

i never thought about it like that and that's actually pretty creepy lol

i guess it's only explicitly stated in those books based on the game, but it 100% fits the psi gate quote and it's the last quote in the game she appears in, going by the tech tree order, so it's canon to me

quote:

"Go through, my children! The time of miracles is upon us. Let us cast off sin and walk together to the Garden of the Lord. With God’s mercy we shall meet again on the other side."

— Sister Miriam Godwinson, “Last Testament”

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Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


i know were basically ignoring the alien crossfire ones but cult of planet and domai seem ok

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