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Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

No I thought it was like PUBG where all weapons had drop and delay, and snipers were just more so

It's such a direct copy it made sense

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Seditiar
Aug 5, 2012

I did post about it 2 pages back though. :v:

Fwiw, everything is hit scan in PvE. Except obviously missile/grenade launchers.

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

My K/D ratio is gonna be amazing

Seditiar
Aug 5, 2012

https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/en-US/news/v-1-8-1-patch-notes

New patch notes are up.

quote:

Fixed an issue which caused revives to be interrupted if another DBNO player is near.

Only took them a month, loving hell.

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

Who else is getting the bug where they can't use their fire key for like 5 seconds after weapon switching? It happens once a round in PVE for me

Mister Fister
May 17, 2008

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
KILL-GORE


I love the smell of dead Palestinians in the morning.
You know, one time we had Gaza bombed for 26 days
(and counting!)

Gumbel2Gumbel posted:

Lmao how the gently caress did no one mention the sniper rifle is projectile and everything else is hit scan.

No wonder I was missing all my loving shots, goddamn.

Also that is an obtuse design choice.

If it were hitscan, sniper rifles would be insanely OP... they would have to nerf the damage a lot.

Edit: oh you mean you thought the AR's and other non-sniper guns were projectile as well? Actually i thought i read they're going to make the other guns projectile as well.

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

Mister Fister posted:

Edit: oh you mean you thought the AR's and other non-sniper guns were projectile as well? Actually i thought i read they're going to make the other guns projectile as well.

In one of the patch notes or interviews they said their thinking about making all weapons projectile, yeah. They're just experimenting though, nothing confirmed.

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

Yeah I was aiming high and to the side the entire time. I feel like an idiot. Tracers threw me off.

Mister Fister
May 17, 2008

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
KILL-GORE


I love the smell of dead Palestinians in the morning.
You know, one time we had Gaza bombed for 26 days
(and counting!)
A little disappointing that there wasn't any options to have different sensitivities between the sniper rifles and scoped AR in the new update. Doesn't sound like a terribly complicated fix.

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

Neither does being able to access your back pack outside of missions

de_dust
Jan 21, 2009

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.
Are they ever adding 60fps(ish) back on the console version?

30 is lame as gently caress.

Seditiar
Aug 5, 2012

de_dust posted:

Are they ever adding 60fps(ish) back on the console version?

30 is lame as gently caress.

Yup, it's in the patch notes for tomorrow's patch. You can choose to not cap fps at 30 after tomorrow.

E: Only for PS4 and PS4 Pro.

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

Console version has constant 5 second lockups for me

Tei
Feb 19, 2011

Mister Fister posted:

A little disappointing that there wasn't any options to have different sensitivities between the sniper rifles and scoped AR in the new update. Doesn't sound like a terribly complicated fix.

I have not played the PvP version of the game much, but I tried it and sniper was very slow, so I tweaked some setting and it was normal again. Or maybe I have dream it.
This was in the console version.

Mister Fister
May 17, 2008

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
KILL-GORE


I love the smell of dead Palestinians in the morning.
You know, one time we had Gaza bombed for 26 days
(and counting!)

Tei posted:

I have not played the PvP version of the game much, but I tried it and sniper was very slow, so I tweaked some setting and it was normal again. Or maybe I have dream it.
This was in the console version.

Yeah, this is the PC version i'm talking about, might be different.

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

https://clips-media-assets.twitch.tv/26628478544-offset-12118-854x480.mp4

lmao

katkillad2
Aug 30, 2004

Awake and unreal, off to nowhere
This game is fun and good, although I don't think it would be any less fun if it were less convoluted. I've played PVE for a few hours, read the first post and a few pages of this thread and still don't really know the purpose of most of what I'm doing outside of the quest objectives. Fortunately, the current difficulty doesn't really require me to know everything that is going on. Haven't played BR yet, wanted to get used to the controls and whatnot in PVE first, but I've been watching Grimmmz and it looks like a lot of fun.

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

I'm slightly brand new and let me share a couple of hints:

Every gun is hitscan (instant) except the rocket launcher and sniper in PVP, and Rocket Launcher in PVE.

Get that outlander who can smash everything and see treasure. Hitting the target when you're smashing something for materials gives you a critical hit on it and triggers your time limited outlander ability that makes you turn green or purple near good loot containers. And also highlights them through walls! You'll get plenty of materials digging through walls and poo poo to get at this stuff.

Prioritize offense upgrades, pickaxe damage, backpack upgrades, Fire Team Alpha Survivors and upgrading them as well.

Offense seems to be the most important stat, I noticed a huge difference unlocking an extra survivor slot and putting a legendary survivor into offense.

Enemies get tanky really quickly unless you do that.

Shoot the bee guys and always put a top on your defense objective because those skull lobbers will rain fire on the target if you're not paying attention or 2/4 people decide to material farm while you're out

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

Also shotguns rule in this game and do great headshot damage. Snipers aren't useless if you're pinging bee guys, pitchers, and skull ladies constantly.

MikeSevigny
Aug 6, 2002

Habs 2006: Cristobal Persuasion
I disagree about the shotguns, most of them are too slow and wide-spread to be really effective unless you're right in the middle of a big pack. The Tigerjaw/Room Sweeper are good for smashers though.

While a Pathfinder or Recon Scout are good for farming, they're not great for combat. I like Scorch for ninjas because he has a very strong dragon slash that can clear big groups and he's good at kiting husks. I haven't played a bad soldier subclass yet, but I like the ones that can get the bonus vulnerability (I think the centurion and special forces can get up to 45%, which helps enormously).

But for the first couple areas you can pretty much use whoever you want. It took me ages to get a purple recon scout but it didn't really hinder my progress much.

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

MikeSevigny posted:

I disagree about the shotguns, most of them are too slow and wide-spread to be really effective unless you're right in the middle of a big pack. The Tigerjaw/Room Sweeper are good for smashers though.

While a Pathfinder or Recon Scout are good for farming, they're not great for combat. I like Scorch for ninjas because he has a very strong dragon slash that can clear big groups and he's good at kiting husks. I haven't played a bad soldier subclass yet, but I like the ones that can get the bonus vulnerability (I think the centurion and special forces can get up to 45%, which helps enormously).

But for the first couple areas you can pretty much use whoever you want. It took me ages to get a purple recon scout but it didn't really hinder my progress much.

I'm a bit new but just getting within like 15 feet and popping off an enemy's head has been much more effective for close range than AR's. I have a purple Power 27 Bearcat though. Weaker enemies go down in one hit, those bigger guys go down in 2-3.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Gumbel2Gumbel posted:

Also shotguns rule in this game and do great headshot damage. Snipers aren't useless if you're pinging bee guys, pitchers, and skull ladies constantly.

This is my go-to weapon for clearing out waves of husks:


Once it's level 25 it'll do energy damage, which is just wonderful for helping keep it a solid general purpose husk killer. I got marine corpse Ramirez from a llama but still use my urban assault headhunter who gets a 25% rof increase for 5 seconds when she lands a headshot. Even without that bonus in play a Tigerjaw just rips through groups of husks though.


Other situational weapons include a legendary dam buster (rocket launcher), deathstalker scoped AR, and a triple tap sniper rifle that I don't really use because the deathstalker is fantastic.

MikeSevigny
Aug 6, 2002

Habs 2006: Cristobal Persuasion
I really like the shotgun hybrids, like the hydra or the shredder. The shredder especially is great at picking off lobbers at a distance without having to worry about getting jumped up close.

What I found when I got to late Plankerton was that if I needed to take out a crowd, I was better off using shockwave (just got buffed) or a grenade, and if I needed to cut down a big guy fast, I wanted something full-auto to get the Vulnerability stacks up right away, or a hybrid so I could make sure the maximum number of pellets went into his face. Your mileage may vary, especially if you're playing a constructor and just need something to get husks out of your face while you repair.

Kylra
Dec 1, 2006

Not a cute boy, just a boring girl.
Shotguns have the problem of not having as many bonuses to stack as pistols or assault rifles, while not being able to do long ranged combat better like the snipers. Unless you got the raider from the horde bash event anyway. And even then special forces or urban assault will probably serve you better.

Also since it keeps coming up, if anyone is really hard up for N&B I'll trade you my 2: your 1 for herbs or 3:1 for bacon.

Also leveling traps is good. Just level the right traps.

Mister Fister
May 17, 2008

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
KILL-GORE


I love the smell of dead Palestinians in the morning.
You know, one time we had Gaza bombed for 26 days
(and counting!)
My stream will probably start one hour later tonight at 9pm est due to a commitment I have to make

Seditiar
Aug 5, 2012

Gumbel2Gumbel posted:

I'm a bit new but just getting within like 15 feet and popping off an enemy's head has been much more effective for close range than AR's. I have a purple Power 27 Bearcat though. Weaker enemies go down in one hit, those bigger guys go down in 2-3.

Each weapon has its own headshot multiplier. Shotgun only gets +10% damage on headshots, so just going for center mass is best with them. Shredder Sniper Rifle falls under Sniper Rifles so ignores this (iirc sniper rifle is 50 or 75% headshot bonus).

I don't use shotguns ever, there's like 2 different good ones though, but really only for Chargers. Especially later on where random Charger waves can pop up, which shits out like 15-30 Chargers over a minute. I believe the Backbreaker is really good and Room Sweeper(?). From what I've heard anyway.

Mister Fister
May 17, 2008

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
KILL-GORE


I love the smell of dead Palestinians in the morning.
You know, one time we had Gaza bombed for 26 days
(and counting!)
Stream in 7 minutes!

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Minorkos
Feb 20, 2010

They've made sniping really rewarding in the battle royale mode. I actually love the exaggerated bullet drop and low bullet speed, it makes those 1 hit kills on moving targets at 300 meters feel amazing

I kinda wish they'd dial down the RNG spread and put the same bullet speed mechanics into every other weapon in the game, but maybe server/balance issues would arise because of that

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

That's crazy about the headshot damage.

Also I had to choose between Catstructor Penny and Hazard the 13th and I went Hazard.

What do I do with a controller?

Kylra
Dec 1, 2006

Not a cute boy, just a boring girl.
Use decoy to ball things up for rockets/grenades or to pull smashers off of walls and stuff. There's better choices though. In any case, it's not going to matter a bunch until you get to mid/late plankerton.

If you haven't seen this yet it's a pretty good reference: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1iWt-LgADVmRdQnS9OomDFqjqXQT7wyyPA1unctnaPHM/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true

Anything labeled 4 or higher is ok to good to invest xp in if it's purple or orange if you don't have a top tier hero. Otherwise, it's probably best find a dragon ninja or blue rarity soldier with grenades at level 10 or lower to retire later to get the xp back. Bonus points if the soldier has both goin' commando and grenades.

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The battle royal mode in this is rad as gently caress.

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

Kylra posted:

Use decoy to ball things up for rockets/grenades or to pull smashers off of walls and stuff. There's better choices though. In any case, it's not going to matter a bunch until you get to mid/late plankerton.

If you haven't seen this yet it's a pretty good reference: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1iWt-LgADVmRdQnS9OomDFqjqXQT7wyyPA1unctnaPHM/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true

Anything labeled 4 or higher is ok to good to invest xp in if it's purple or orange if you don't have a top tier hero. Otherwise, it's probably best find a dragon ninja or blue rarity soldier with grenades at level 10 or lower to retire later to get the xp back. Bonus points if the soldier has both goin' commando and grenades.

Yeah I'm going to have to retire a Blue Tank Constructor, Blue Ninja, and Blue Commando.

Do the characters name/sexes have any relevance to the specialties? Like can Penny the Constructor also be a Controller?

Gumbel2Gumbel fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Nov 3, 2017

Seditiar
Aug 5, 2012

Yes, not at this moment but they add opposite sex/different "characters" with the same abilities with every event so far.

I.e. Jason from friday the 13th as Kyle.

As for the controller Constructor: I like them for the more run and gun ish missions like Retrieve the Data, where a huge B.A.S.E. isn't "required" and adds some extra firepower while sticking with the constructor class.

Blight Runner
May 3, 2009
The collection book entry should help clear up all confusion. You can inspect all the Penny entries and see if she ever gets Decoy. They seem to be good with the titles but I'm sure there are some inconsistencies.

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

That helps a lot. I've got heroes to target (and it looks like I got really fuckin' lucky with some drops btw) since I have everything you guys recommended. I've got an epic AC shock specialist and an Epic Sentinel Hype too which dropped from the same llama.

One thing that's confusing still is the survivor squads. When I look at the squads screen it says +81 for offense, when I go into Fire Team Alpha it says +105 offense on the left side of the screen, but 86 offense on the top of the screen?

Gumbel2Gumbel fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Nov 3, 2017

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Gumbel2Gumbel posted:

That helps a lot. I've got heroes to target (and it looks like I got really fuckin' lucky with some drops btw) since I have everything you guys recommended. I've got an epic AC shock specialist and an Epic Sentinel Hype too which dropped from the same llama.

One thing that's confusing still is the survivor squads. When I look at the squads screen it says +81 for offense, when I go into Fire Team Alpha it says +105 offense on the left side of the screen, but 86 offense on the top of the screen?

Go in to every hero, schematic, and survivor you have that you don't have plans to get rid of in the near/long term future and favorite them if you haven't. That'll ensure you can't retire/recycle/collection book something by accident.

Seditiar
Aug 5, 2012

Gumbel2Gumbel posted:

That helps a lot. I've got heroes to target (and it looks like I got really fuckin' lucky with some drops btw) since I have everything you guys recommended. I've got an epic AC shock specialist and an Epic Sentinel Hype too which dropped from the same llama.

One thing that's confusing still is the survivor squads. When I look at the squads screen it says +81 for offense, when I go into Fire Team Alpha it says +105 offense on the left side of the screen, but 86 offense on the top of the screen?

+86 is your personal offense. The +105 is your personal offense + the party offense you provide to everyone, including yourself. It's kind of weird but makes sort of sense once you know it.

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

Yeah but what's the 81 offense?

Also with a blue commando who has tier 1 going commando but frag grenades locked behind Tier 2 evolution, should I evolve her or save my drops of rain and manual?

Gumbel2Gumbel fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Nov 3, 2017

Seditiar
Aug 5, 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO4DBQqFeSM

-Fortnightmares is staying until November 29th
-Working on ways to narrow your weapon rolls that you actually want. No more details than that other than they're talking about how to do it
-They added more affixes to weapons/traps to get more different, viable builds
-Working on cleaning up inventory clutter.
-They experimented with downgrading crafting weapons. I.e. if you upgrade your Silver weapon to Malachite, but don't actually have access to it, or want to help a lower friend out, you'd be able to downgrade crafting. They weren't happy with how it worked though, so they're trying to get another go at it maybe soon/later.
-Chests not showing the correct chest level is a more elaborate bug than they thought. They first thought it was purely visual, but sometimes you'd get the wrong loot still.
-Upside: They have a fix. But they need to make sure there aren't any bugs before they're going to roll out for everyone.

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Mister Fister
May 17, 2008

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
KILL-GORE


I love the smell of dead Palestinians in the morning.
You know, one time we had Gaza bombed for 26 days
(and counting!)
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