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univbee
Jun 3, 2004




SeANMcBAY posted:

So is it worth upgrading to an X1X if you only have a 1080p tv?

Most reviews are pretty eh on it. Like, there's an unquestionable across-the-board benefit, but the cost difference surpasses the gains, not to mention your patch sizes for enhanced games suddenly go way up because it's assumed you need the 4K assets and you can't opt out of them if you have an X. We're talking going from a patch size of 4ish gigs for Quantum Break on XB1(S) to an over 100 gig patch size for Quantum Break on XB1X.

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Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

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SeANMcBAY posted:

So is it worth upgrading to an X1X if you only have a 1080p tv?

In a year there's going to be more games that are enhanced to actually use it, and there will also be a norm set if games will bother to run better at 1080p, or just patch in 4K mode + larger textures. At launch, it's questionable overall and 4K output seems to be the main appeal.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Halo 3 upgrade sounds great

Not like 500 dollars for something with no games good but yknow

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

SeANMcBAY posted:

So is it worth upgrading to an X1X if you only have a 1080p tv?

Since the other guys are beating around the bush to TRY and do this thing justice...no its not loving worth it at all. Save your $$ or go buy new 4K poo poo.

Zaa Boogie
Sep 13, 2007

"Suckle on this receptacle!"

Auron posted:

Since the other guys are beating around the bush to TRY and do this thing justice...no its not loving worth it at all. Save your $$ or go buy new 4K poo poo.

Who's beating around the bush?

Edit: To add more here's an article (it's in french) that shows a comparison between the XBone and XBonX for 1080p screens.

http://www.xboxygen.com/News/26025-Xbox-One-X-sur-TV-1080p-oui-c-est-plus-beau-et-on-le-prouve?lang=fr

Zaa Boogie fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Nov 3, 2017

89
Feb 24, 2006

#worldchamps
As a 65" KS8000 owner + about 6TBs of space to spare, I am pumped about my Xbox One X coming in the mail. I just got done watching half a hour of XboneX impressions and graphic comparisons and as someone who's already equipped with the equipment to take advantage of the system, I dunno why anybody would be all :eh: about the system. Seems Microsoft is doing a great job with it. (I have a PS4 Pro as well, there's no console war bs).

Also, Skate 3 & Mirror's Edge X360 just got Xbox One X enhanced. Super cool they are going back and releasing 4K patches for 360 games.

89 fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Nov 3, 2017

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

SeANMcBAY posted:

So is it worth upgrading to an X1X if you only have a 1080p tv?

It'll give you higher framerate and better textures, as well as rendering more games at full 1080. Whether that's worth it is up to you.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Skate 3 is the best game on xbone, and because there's no easy way to play it on PS4, xbone is the best console. Good for them for recognizing this.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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89 posted:

As a 65" KS8000 owner + about 6TBs of space to spare, I am pumped about my Xbox One X coming in the mail. I just got done watching half a hour of XboneX impressions and graphic comparisons and as someone who's already equipped with the equipment to take advantage of the system, I dunno why anybody would be all :eh: about the system. Seems Microsoft is doing a great job with it. (I have a PS4 Pro as well, there's no console war bs).

Also, Skate 3 & Mirror's Edge X360 just got Xbox One X enhanced. Super cool they are going back and releasing 4K patches for 360 games.

Most people here don't have 4k TVs and some are even hostile towards those who do.

Some people still think this is a shark tank thread.

Others are just embarrassed to admit they are excited for anything xbox because the brand got shat on so hard during the bone launch (deservedly).

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

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Xbone Ses being so cheap is unfortunately the biggest argument against the X. You could buy yourself AND your little nephew an Xbone S and still have $100 left over for the price of an X.

Akuma
Sep 11, 2001


Twerk from Home posted:

Xbone Ses being so cheap is unfortunately the biggest argument against the X. You could buy yourself AND your little nephew an Xbone S and still have $100 left over for the price of an X.
But you wouldn't have the World's Most Powerful Console...

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




Akuma posted:

But you wouldn't have the World's Most Powerful Console...

Just paint it black.

89
Feb 24, 2006

#worldchamps

UnfortunateSexFart posted:

Most people here don't have 4k TVs and some are even hostile towards those who do.

Some people still think this is a shark tank thread.

Others are just embarrassed to admit they are excited for anything xbox because the brand got shat on so hard during the bone launch (deservedly).

Well, in the present tense:

- 4K, HDR is awesome
- Microsoft has realized the mistakes they’ve made in the past and are going over and beyond with the launch of the Xbox One X in giving consumers what they want. Then doing a great deal in customer service in updating old Xbox 360 games and even recently having some limited original Xbox BC.
- The original Xbox One launch was...5 years ago?
- Everything runs best on Xbox One now. Even poo poo that isn’t “supported” or patched yet. Xbone games with uncapped FPS or dynamic resolution is seeing drastic graphical improvements without patches, being able to tap into some of the Xbox One X’s powerzzz
- My PS4 is only used for the awesome PS exclusives
- Suck it, broke nerds.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




89 posted:

- Microsoft has realized the mistakes they’ve made in the past and are going over and beyond with the launch of the Xbox One X in giving consumers what they want. Then doing a great deal in customer service in updating old Xbox 360 games and even recently having some limited original Xbox BC.


They dont want new games? Odd.

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost
Nobody wants new games, they want 11 more P's on the 4-6 year old game they bought twice already on two systems +

Meanwhile where is my HDR 4k remake of Railroad Tycoon II :qq:

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Gamers are a disease mr. Anderson

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Ether Frenzy posted:

Meanwhile where is my HDR 4k remake of Railroad Tycoon II :qq:

Railroad Tycoon 2 was bad, play Transport Tycoon instead.

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost
That is possibly the wrongest opinion in this, the thread full of wrong opinions.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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Man cod ww2 looks like garbage on my S, even with HDR.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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89 posted:

Well, in the present tense:

- 4K, HDR is awesome
- Microsoft has realized the mistakes they’ve made in the past and are going over and beyond with the launch of the Xbox One X in giving consumers what they want. Then doing a great deal in customer service in updating old Xbox 360 games and even recently having some limited original Xbox BC.
- The original Xbox One launch was...5 years ago?
- Everything runs best on Xbox One now. Even poo poo that isn’t “supported” or patched yet. Xbone games with uncapped FPS or dynamic resolution is seeing drastic graphical improvements without patches, being able to tap into some of the Xbox One X’s powerzzz
- My PS4 is only used for the awesome PS exclusives
- Suck it, broke nerds.

No argument here, especially the last point.

spudsbuckley
Aug 29, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

(and can't post for 5 years!)

89 posted:

Well, in the present tense:

- 4K, HDR is awesome
- Microsoft has realized the mistakes they’ve made in the past and are going over and beyond with the launch of the Xbox One X in giving consumers what they want. Then doing a great deal in customer service in updating old Xbox 360 games and even recently having some limited original Xbox BC.
- The original Xbox One launch was...5 years ago?
- Everything runs best on Xbox One now. Even poo poo that isn’t “supported” or patched yet. Xbone games with uncapped FPS or dynamic resolution is seeing drastic graphical improvements without patches, being able to tap into some of the Xbox One X’s powerzzz
- My PS4 is only used for the awesome PS exclusives
- Suck it, broke nerds.

-Not a single one of their exclusive games is of any interest to anyone and that is why they are doing so poorly.

The PS4 has like 3 or 4 exclusive contenders for GOTY and the Switch has a similar amount.

The Xbox probably had another unremarkable entry to Forza, Gears and Halo series. I legitimately don't know.

spudsbuckley fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Nov 4, 2017

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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Forza Horizon 3 is legitimately great IMO, even as someone who's usually not a racing game fan. But yeah it's gonna take years for them to unfuck the lack of focus on exclusives.

Auron posted:

Man cod ww2 looks like garbage on my S, even with HDR.

Even the single player? The multiplayer demo looked like rear end on a high end PC too.

UnfortunateSexFart fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Nov 4, 2017

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Forza h3 was 2016

Syrinxx
Mar 28, 2002

Death is whimsical today

Come home put in CoD WW2 so it can install and get all happy, go do poo poo for over an hour, come back and try to launch it, now it decides it needs a fuckin 10GB update that it didn't bother to do and will take 2 hours at this rate even though I have 100Mbit

gently caress xbox

spasticColon
Sep 22, 2004

In loving memory of Donald Pleasance

Zaa Boogie posted:

Yep! It is indeed a dynamic resolution. Though I thought everybody knew that already. And not sure who the they is here. I just thought it was a neat thing to post.

Supposedly it actually maintains 4k most of the time and haven't heard anything of it dipping into 1080p to do it. But I'm really awaiting a proper check from Digital Foundry or VG Tech.

Honestly I want dynamic resolution to be a feature to be added to PC games. That way I can just set the target framerate to "60fps" in the settings menu and if it has to render the game down to 1080p or even 900p during busy scenes I would be fine with that in order to maintain 60fps.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

spudsbuckley posted:

The PS4 has like 3 or 4 exclusive contenders for GOTY and the Switch has a similar amount.

"No games" doesn't count as a contender for game of the year multiple times over.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

spasticColon posted:

Honestly I want dynamic resolution to be a feature to be added to PC games. That way I can just set the target framerate to "60fps" in the settings menu and if it has to render the game down to 1080p or even 900p during busy scenes I would be fine with that in order to maintain 60fps.

It is a thing in PC games now. Shadow of War is a prime example. You pick the dynamic resolution target frame rate, it does the rest

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars


fishmech posted:

"No games" doesn't count as a contender for game of the year multiple times over.

In the context of this thread, what are your definitions and usage guides for the terms:
no
game
games
no game
no games
"no games"
"No games"

You may not refer to the PlayStation 4 or any other Sony product, even by omission, in your definition. This is an Xbox thread after all.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

dont be mean to me posted:

In the context of this thread, what are your definitions and usage guides for the terms:
no
game
games
no game
no games
"no games"
"No games"
The Sony PS4 has no games.

HyperPuma
Jun 24, 2007

b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but trump is president
sad

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Yea real sad anyone bought and defended the PS3 or ps4

HyperPuma
Jun 24, 2007

b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but trump is president
*boots up halo the master chief collection*

agreed

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars


fishmech posted:

The Sony PS4 has no games.

You'd think this would be a straightforward exercise for the Most Pedantic Kid in America. Let's start again.

The hyperlink at the end of this line redirects to the Oxford English Dictionary definition for the word 'game'.

Do you accept this definition? If not, how does your definition of the word differ, that is, how would the definition have to be revised for you to accept it?

doingitwrong
Jul 27, 2013
Jesus Christ why is this thread so terrible?

The PS4 had a much better line up of exclusive games this year. Also it has a larger multiplayer base this generation which sometimes matters. XBox in a stunning reversal has turned out to be the more consumer friendly platform and if the brand survives, seems to be laying the ground for a future where every Xbox game remains compatible with the hardware rev after rev.

Most games are multi platform so it barely matters what console you buy. I prefer the X controller and I’m making a bet on long term backwards compatibility so I mostly buy xbox games but I picked up a PS4 for Horizon and Bloodborne and a few other exclusives and I’m really happy with it. After all this time in xbox land, it was weird as heck to discover that I couldn’t also go back and play the PS3 games I missed out because I skipped that generation. They simply don’t run on PS4 I guess?

Maybe someday Sony and Nintendo will work out that we would happily buy their old games for our new consoles if they’d just loving make them available but that day is not today.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Backwards compatibility only matters if you don't have any new games coming out.

doingitwrong
Jul 27, 2013
Most games are bad but some old games are good.
Some new games are good.
One day, they will be old games which are good.

Having to keep a half dozen consoles around so you can go back and play them all is … bad.

RBX
Jan 2, 2011

When Sony puts in BC next time and takes the easy good press what will people cry about next

Zaa Boogie
Sep 13, 2007

"Suckle on this receptacle!"

Sakurazuka posted:

Backwards compatibility only matters if you don't have any new games coming out.

Or that it's just neat to be able to play your old stuff?

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

It's a neat bonus but the vast majority of people don't really care.

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89
Feb 24, 2006

#worldchamps
Xbox One X/PS4 Pro Master Race.

Exclusives on PS4. Everything else on Xbox.

Suck it, nerds.

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