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C. Everett Koop posted:Tiny Lister had himself a life, man. My four year old refers to him as "big ear fox" since he's that fennick fox in zootopia. She was, frankly, a bit surprised when I showed her fennick's voice actor.
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Are you talking poo poo about the President from The Fifth Element?
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DeathChicken posted:Zeus here would of course go on to have a famous acting career, with such roles as "That guy who got knocked the gently caress out in Friday" and "That prisoner on the boat in Dark Knight". WWF had the Rock here, man Don't forget Earthican president in Fifth Element. e:f,b
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Platypus Farm posted:My four year old refers to him as "big ear fox" since he's that fennick fox in zootopia. She was, frankly, a bit surprised when I showed her fennick's voice actor. If she becomes a wrestling fan, you need to tell her that Big Ear Fox once wrestled Hulk Hogan.
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rare Magic card l00k posted:If she becomes a wrestling fan, you need to tell her that Big Ear Fox once wrestled Hulk Hogan. She's a Bruti fan. She likes his tights and how his hair looks like hers does when she wakes up in the morning.
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Platypus Farm posted:She's a Bruti fan. Brutus Beefcake did have really good tights.
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I have a feeling you're eventually going to change your position on Bossman. As a crossover, here's the WWF debut of Zeus, as well as possibly Bossman's best singles match ever and definitely one of Hogan's best--their steel cage match on May 27th, 1989 SNME (THREE AND 3/4 STARS by Meltzer) (match starts around 30:00 minutes) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4o7Tc3QZvU
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Someone just post a bunch of Bossman-In-Japan gifs imo
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Nah let's have the beautiful Demolition pic I mentioned earlier. https://i.imgur.com/v6xF72I.png Apologies if imgur link sux, it's probably best if you can't see it
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Someone just post a bunch of Bossman-In-Japan gifs imo https://twitter.com/skrongstyle/status/697411141476155392?lang=en You mention Andre being bad in the ring at this point, and you're right. He's more of a prop that people work around than an active participant at this point. He really was goddamn terrifying in his prime, though.
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Marmaduke! posted:Nah let's have the beautiful Demolition pic I mentioned earlier. KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE! 
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I always liked Bossman. And yeah, back when Andre could move he was a scary, scary man, like the Big Show is/was. 
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Marmaduke! posted:Nah let's have the beautiful Demolition pic I mentioned earlier. edit:lmao randa how did you slip in before I posted/refreshed
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Aesop Poprock posted:
I don't know, but god bless Sandwich Artist for buying the smilie.
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Takuan posted:edit: n/m, embedding tweets is automatic. Corbin's been watching his Boss Man stuff apparently.
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Marmaduke! posted:Nah let's have the beautiful Demolition pic I mentioned earlier.
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Zeus no-selling for Hogan and Hogan's horrified reactions were a real eye-opener for Lil' Jerusalem, I'll tell you what.
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This has been a fascinating read up to this point. As someone who never really watched wrestling until catching a Daniel Bryan match during his run up to Mania 30 (And then going back to watch Taker vs Shawn at Mania 25), I always kind of bought into the hype about 80s WWF. Even when I would see clips of it that was bad, I would assume I didn't get it when looking at it through 2017 eyes. But the good stuff really makes the bad stuff stand out even more. I think I might follow along on the network with this.
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CascadeBeta posted:This has been a fascinating read up to this point. As someone who never really watched wrestling until catching a Daniel Bryan match during his run up to Mania 30 (And then going back to watch Taker vs Shawn at Mania 25), I always kind of bought into the hype about 80s WWF. Even when I would see clips of it that was bad, I would assume I didn't get it when looking at it through 2017 eyes. But the good stuff really makes the bad stuff stand out even more. I think I might follow along on the network with this. Nostalgia is a hell of a drug, my friend.
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I'm behind, but this passed without comment largely, and I feel I need to make one:Rarity posted:So many questions. Luckily, one of these I have an answer for. This is trash TV talk show host Morton Downey Jr., making an appearance here to meet Vince's celebrity quota. He's smoking as he comes down to the ring and Jesse says that he's “always puffing on that weed”. Holy poo poo, Jesse! You just called someone a drug user on national television! You're wrong, though. That's blatantly just a straight. Love confronts Morton and says that he doesn't love him. Morton retorts that “any guy who wears a skirt I don't want to love me”. FOR gently caress SAKE, NO! Firstly: the insane awful of this segment is really not shocking when you know who Morton Downey Jr. was. He might legitimately be one of the worst human beings (if he even qualifies as such) to ever be on television, and I'm saying that with Trump actively in mind (there's an argument to be made, in fact, that Downey was basically proto-Trump, but with a talk show instead of political ambitions). Secondly: Morton was a legit chain-smoker and was very against anti-smoking campaigns, that's not a gimmick. And yeah, it eventually gave him cancer, and there was much rejoicing by all.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Secondly: Morton was a legit chain-smoker and was very against anti-smoking campaigns, that's not a gimmick. And yeah, it eventually gave him cancer, and there was much rejoicing by all. 
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Thank you for this. I legit scared my cats laughing at this.
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Hercules vs. Greg Valentine w/ Jimmy Hart Before we can get the proceedings for this one underway Finkel makes us wait a moment so that he can introduce a special guest ring announcer: Ronnie Garvin. Why is he here? I don't know but according to commentary he's already been banned from both wrestling and refereeing. Haha. Good. I'm guessing he's working his way down so that by the time Survivor Series rolls round he'll be the local ringrat. Herc' comes out and Garvin gives him the standard introduction but it's when Greg shows up with Jimmy in tow that things get interesting. Or as interesting as an angle between Greg and Garvin can get, which is not very. Garvin calls Jimmy “the big mouth of the South” and adds that Greg looks “overweight by thirty pounds”. He doesn't stop there, he's got a whole string of insults that he launches Greg's way. It gets to the point where I think it's a bit excessive. Lay off, man. It's not Greg's fault if he's got thyroid issues.  The pilot episode of Blind Date was not off to a good start Greg reaches the ring and immediately fronts up to Garvin but Herc' rushes him from behind and beats him down. Greg recovers and goes for the Figure 4 early only Herc' shrugs it off easily. Herc' hits a big tall suplex but Greg muscles him down and slips his feet up on the ropes to get a very quick win. Or so it would appear. But we're not quite finished with the antics just yet. Garvin comes back into the ring to announce the winner but he names Herc' instead of Greg. Careful, Garvin! You'll get fired from this job too at this rate! The ref hears Garvin and comes back over to have a little word in his ear. Garvin apologises to the crowd and announces the actual winner of this match... Herc' by DQ! Greg, who is understandably upset by this masterful troll, attacks Garvin and then brawls with Herc' on the outside until Garvin helps chase him away. There's not much to say about this match because it was very short and purely existed to help build this Greg/Garvin feud. To which I say, why? Greg's been with us right from the start and this is the first real angle he's been involved in and it's a feud with Garvin? Who the hell in the audience was salivating to see these two square off? Also, wrestlers put their feet on the ropes all the drat time and it's not a valid pin but it's also not a DQ. Greg got screwed. East Rutherford '89, never forget. Zombie Mean Gene's shamblings have been lured by a bubbling cauldron from which he senses the same voodoo magics that keep his own bloated corpse mobile. And standing around that cauldron are the three sages known as Savage, Zeus and Sherri and AAAAA JESUS WHAT THE gently caress IS WRONG WITH SHERRI?  No mummy, I don't like it! She says that the cauldron is full of madness in which she sees Hulk laid out flat on his back. Savage sees it as well but its all smaller because of Zeus. He calls out Brutus as the weak link of the team and he imagines all the endless possibilities for what could happen between Sherri and Elizabeth. Sure Randy, you and every other red blooded male in the arena. Zombie Mean Gene turns to Zeus and he screams and screams and screams. What the gently caress did I just see? I can't call that promo good or bad, it was just completely bizarre. Ted DiBiase w/ Virgil vs. Superfly Jimmy Snuka So Snuka is back and jumping right into the action. I have to say this isn't something that appeals to me. I've never thought of Snuka as a good wrestler, I've never felt like other people rate Snuka as a good wrestler. I've always known him for the moment when he jumped off the cage in 1983 and that's a great moment and all, for sure, but... well, we're already in 1989. The internet tells me Snuka was 46 at this point which is not too bad. It's not quite the point where I'd be getting mad at him for staying past his prime but it doesn't bode well for his ability to keep up with the evolving style of wrestling. DiBiase makes his way out first and I notice that they've started announcing him from a different residence each time. Hehe, that's one of those subtle touches that really sells a gimmick. DiBiase cuts a quick promo where he takes credit for ending Jake's career. I guess DiBiase was involved in that shameful WM5 match briefly but it was all Jake kicking his rear end so I don't think that really counts. Snuka comes out and this time he doesn't remember he left the oven on because he stays out, hurray!  On second thoughts I think I'd prefer it if you just went The bell rings and Snuka immediately makes the smart move of going after Virgil. He grabs him on the apron but DiBiase attacks so Snuka ducks and DiBiase sends Virgil down to the mat. Snuka goes for a leapfrog but he botches it so bad he drops down right on DiBiase's head. It looks nasty. I might need to rethink that 'past his prime' thing. Jesse says that Snuka is like an animal so he acts on instinct alone. He keeps bringing it up and it's a comment with some really uncomfortable racist undertones and I wish he would stop. I'm finding it very hard to concentrate on this match and there's a very good reason for that. The whole way there's a constant and repetitive bird chirp on the audio. I have no idea why it's there but it's incessant. Snuka connects with a back body drop on DiBiase so he begs off but then takes the advantage. DiBiase whiffs a second rope elbow drop but not too long later Snuka hits with a second rope headbutt. Ow. Don't do that move, Jimmy. Nobody should do that move.  Guys wrestling without shoes always freaks me out Snuka goes up top once more and then he stalls there for so long that I wonder if he's turned into a statue. However, it soon becomes apparent that he was waiting for Virgil to get in position for the spot because Virgil ambles over like he's on a Sunday round of golf. Yeah, take your time, mate. It's not like I'm about to meet Hulk for a drink back at the 19th hole. Eventually Virgil distracts Snuka so the two men brawl. While this is happening DiBiase sneaks up from behind and shoves Snuka into the ringpost to get a countout. Snuka wants some retribution so he attacks DiBiase and Virgil after the match. DiBiase disappears faster than Roman Reigns on a Wellness Test day so Snuka settles for taking Virgil out with the Body Splash. I wouldn't go so far as to say this match was bad but it was just meh. It existed, it didn't achieve much and nothing memorable took place. 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DeathChicken posted:millions of dollars (Millions of dollars! Millions of dollars!) Oh my god, I love you for this
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The Genius left WWF and got paid a lot of money to sit at home with his family. Damien Sandow left WWF and got paid little money to wrestle as a midcarder in TNA and kill off any good will fans ever had towards him. Rarity: Clearly Damien Sandow is the smart one.
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Rarity posted:
Greg's been plenty of feuds to this point. WM1: Feud with Tito Santana WM2: Feud with The British Bulldogs WM3: Middle of an angle that would see Beefcake turn face. Then with this one, he feuded with Garvin, beat him in a retirement, Garvin became a referee, and used his position to gently caress with Greg, ultimately losing his ref's job when he punched Greg in the face, resulting in Valentine losing to Jimmy Snuka.
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Rarity posted:Or as interesting as an angle between Greg and Garvin can get, which is not very. As a kid I loved the Greg/Garvin feud  Rarity posted:Who the hell in the audience was salivating to see these two square off? raises hand I think I've mentioned before that I haven't gone back to rewatch it and it probably doesn't hold up, but I just completely brought into the Valentine/Garvin angle and loved every second of it back when it first aired. I was genuinely shocked when I found out that Garvin's WWE run was looked so down upon and that he'd had an (initially) far more successful run in WCW as "The Man with the Hands of Stone" which, to be fair, is about the coolest nickname possible.
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It always annoyed me of how great that Garvin/Valentine feud was ("I unfairly lost a retirement match, so I'll just find a legal reason to stick around in a non-wrestling capacity to bug the man responsible") and yet when they did that angle where John Cena was fired, they didn't do the exact same thing. They just had Cena show up and beat up the Nexus single-handedly until Wade Barrett rehired him.
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Gavok posted:They just had Cena show up and beat up the Nexus single-handedly until Wade Barrett rehired him. He didn't even wear the loving shirt, John 
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Burtus I'm still laughing at Burtus. e: I really like the story of the Garvin/Valentine feud reading about it. Unfortunately, it was before I started watching, so I can't speak to the reality of it.
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It was also at this point in his career where Valentine had taken to wearing a shinguard, and turn it around before applying the figure four
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Is that as powerful a trick as arching your back into a figure 8, or as nasty as turning over?
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It was sold as the submission equivalent of Lex Luger hitting people with his metal forearm
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DeathChicken posted:It was sold as the submission equivalent of Lex Luger hitting people with his metal forearm And then Garvin started wearing his own to counter it
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Davros1 posted:And then Garvin started wearing his own to counter it That actually sounds hilariously cool, it's two bad they're both really really bad in the ring. Or that Greg Valentine was in his mid-late 30s here and even then looked like a 75 year old chainsmoking grandma
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Aesop Poprock posted:That actually sounds hilariously cool, it's two bad they're both really really bad in the ring. Or that Greg Valentine was in his mid-late 30s here and even then looked like a 75 year old chainsmoking grandma Garvin's six years older than Valentine.
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