AP posted:

Getting rid of is complicated by, him knowing where the bodies are buried and his wife working there.

The Titanic posted:

Good info. I’m not readily familiar with this stuff, but a lot of people I️ work with are tying themselves to AWS lately, and the biggest thing I’m having to deal with is this SaaS stuff and “serverless” architecture.

Hav posted:

Lambda is actually cool, but microservices. The smart money is looking for alternatives to amazon at the moment; Google compute is probably a better option for most people. Effectively you're just serving a specific event and endpoint, like server-based AJAX.

AWS is the prototype; Azure and GC were second generation. Third generation is about to crest the horizon as everyone discovers datacenters again. Docker and containerization was the new hotness for a while, but again saturating network becomes 'a thing(tm)' and you still have to maintain a certain level of control over the container hosts ~ Beanstalk is the Amazon version, and quite frankly it blew.

The biggest problem about AWS is that it entrains people to use AWS. You get an imperceptible vendor lockin by adjusting to their terminology and protocols.

Edit: If it matters to anyone, it costs $10/month to run a wordpress blog with no traffic on AWS.

VictorianQueerLit posted:

I'm not defending Derek, I'm the first one to make fun of him, but I've talked about this in the past and I think what he said was accurate at the time.

Now I will channel Derek

This is all rambling speculation though about what went on behind the scenes. I've formed my opinion by passively watching this shitshow for a few years now and am taking into account things like CIGs own marketing, their tweets, their ATVs and interviews. Also things like the leaks and this threads analysis at every decision and action they take.

My theory is this:

Due to CIG constantly promising things and being unable to deliver I think Chris Roberts around December 2015 was certain of a early to mid two year late 2016 release for Squadron 42 which is where the real money is at. Since he has talked in interviews about expecting ridiculously impossible numbers of sales for it to the tune of a quarter billion dollars it's reasonable to make that the focus of your company if you are a big enough lunatic to think it's going to be that profitable.

Leading up to that was a nonstop barrage of videos about motion capture for Squadron 42 and the actors. Slides about the amazing script. Leaks about all the work going into it and how much work there was actually to do on Squadron 42. All Chris ever wanted to talk about was Squadron 42. Answer the call.

So in early 2016 we did get a few new patches to the PU. These patches started getting less and less substantial from 2.1. Eventually they were slight modifications anyone that has ever modded a game would instantly recognize. Adjusting values of things.

Then the maintenance mode thing comes up here in March. Not necessarily whatever the official terminology for a "maintenance mode" on a piece of software would be but that the PU was only being worked on to keep up appearances. All focus and resources were going to Squadron 42 but the PU is what cultists have paid for.

As 2016 started progressing you started having longer and longer time for even more and more insignificant patches. After about 6-7 months the maintenance mode and reduced consideration for the PU was proven to be exactly correct since it started taking multiple months to get slight tweaks to flight speed or camera movement. 2.5 in August was virtually identical to 2.0 from December of the previous year. I'm sure cultists would point at the hilarious patch notes or compile huge lists of how adjusting the ammunition in a gun or the top speed of something totally disproves my point but if you aren't a crazy idiot arguing for a belief you can see the actual changes from 2.0 -> 2.5 which were the definition of treading water or "maintenance mode."

Meanwhile you still saw Mark Hamill and Squadron 42 actors tweeting about their still ongoing motion capture up until July of that year.

Gamescom comes around and you have an obvious and proven fake scripted demo in cryeditor.exe to make even more money. Money flows in. Citcon rolls around and in addition to another obvious and proven fake scripted demo in cryeditor.exe you have Squadron 42's appearance cancelled for unexplained reasons. The Leaks had been progressively mentioning a reduced scope in Squadron 42 which was to try and get out "The Prelude." A smaller and cut up version of Squadron 42s content to try and sell it.

After that the holiday sale rolls around and CIG manages to poo poo out Star Marine.

Once 2017 hit Squadron 42 isn't being talked about much anymore. Work probably progressed on it or The Prelude until early this year and at some point the idea had to have been abandoned. I tend to think that all the leaks about how ridiculous the animation data was were correct. Especially when you consider the slides putting this at 10x the speaking roles of actual studio releases of animated films. Chris Roberts had wanted to make a movie and had generated 90% footage and 10% gameplay with most of his budget and the footage was largely worthless due to the work required to turn tens of millions of dollars of motion capture data into anything resembling a game with a narrative that he could sell for $60.

Leaks turned to Squadron 42 being combined with the persistent universe. All outward focus from CIG switches to 3.0 and delivering something that resembles the fake demos they sold last year.

I think they have shifted along this path

- Planning to develop both games simultaneously with 4 studios
(time passes)
- Already past their release date with tens of millions in Squadron 42, complete focus on finish it (Maintenance Mode PU)
(time passes)
- Unable to deal with the hilarious clusterfuck Chris Roberts filmed, scope is reduced and a smaller step will be taken toward Squadron 42, further forgetting the PU (Prelude, A year without patches)
(time passes)
- Development of anything to do with petabytes of mocap footage becomes so expensive that the forgotten PU is now front and center to make money (Fake Demos late 2016)
(a lot of time passes)
- Once the main 2017 sales start getting closer CIG starts producing more fake demos but is now apparently struggling to develop something that actually resembles them. (3.0) Work has obviously just started on it sometime recently but they are running with it 100% and are no longer talking about Squadron 42. Due to almost bankrupting the company on Squadron 42 for years their last resort is a broken tech demo they had largely been ignoring. It's all they have and that leads us to now where they are frantically trying to cram more features into an ancient engine they should have never used in the first place.

It's a shame that we have to speculate so much about what is actually happening at THE WORLD'S MOST OPEN GAME DEVELOPMENT STUDIO. I'm pretty confident about that chain of events and if I was as crazy as Derek i would probably look up all the supporting tweets and information for each step but I don't care enough to spend an eternity digging through endless amounts of bullshit to highlight my points.

thatguy posted:

Chris could just buy out Lesnick with some RARE NEVER BEFORE SEEN NAPKIN DOODLES OF A HIDDEN SECRET SHIP FROM ONE OF HIS FIRST GAMES.

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About the goons stuff.. i can tell you i know A LOT about this. And believe be they are powerless besides trolling now. No financial damage they do anymore.

The people listening to him do it because of stuff in the past. Nothing new . New stuff is impossible. The 45 refund lie was only one of the things that discredited them.

I am deeper into this that you maybe think.

I can tell you ds and his goons have lost everything besides trolling new threads here and /ds.

The Titanic posted:

So AWS Lumberyard stuff now supports mmo functionality out of the box? I’m all kinds of out of date!

A Neurotic Corncob posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/7c3ds3/is_there_any_reason_left_for_evocati/dpmwc7o/

AP posted:

Getting rid of is complicated by, him knowing where the bodies are buried and his wife working there.

Losing him, and her, over the Christmas holidays would make more sense to me, but anything is possible.

A Neurotic Corncob posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/7c3ds3/is_there_any_reason_left_for_evocati/dpmwc7o/

Mirificus posted:

SomethingJones posted:

Stand back everyone, I know A LOT about this

Mirificus posted:

Trilobite posted:

I'm not entirely sure Ben does know where the bodies are buried, tbh. He's been there since the beginning, but he's so clearly cocooned in his own weird obsessions that it's entirely possible that he's never looked beyond them and learned a drat thing about the company he works for. He might have spent the past five years bumbling around being VERY impressed at how GREAT everything seems to be going, and then headed home without ever once worrying about anything more bleak than "What if they're out of my favorite cake and I have to eat my second-favorite instead?"

I mean, there are a whole bunch of people who have spent thousands of dollars on absolutely nothing and who still can't muster up enough sanity to even consider tapping the brakes on their relentless and entirely unhinged optimism, and some of them don't even have to spend most of their day dealing with horrifying health problems and obsessively indexing Wing Commander memorabilia. It's entirely possible that Ben knows even less about Star Citizen's actual progress than CIG's customers do at this point.


That said, even if he knows absolutely nothing and couldn't retaliate against them even if he wanted to, they should probably try to arrange a soft landing for him when/if he leaves. That way it's not a "heartless company fires sick fat man like a common EA would" story, at least. I can't even imagine what other company would have a job for him, but at this point CIG's got to be worried about doing anything that might dent the confidence of their captive audience, right?

Drunk Theory posted:

Have you lost everything as well friend. I would never have made fun of Star Citizen if I thought it would have such a devastating effect.

SomethingJones posted:

I don't buy Ben knowing the 'where the bodies' are buried line either

Because a leak saying that implies the leaker knows what Ben knows, so why not just leak it?

The truth of it is (if you ask me) that nobody actually knows what Ben does to justify his wage and Ben knows that people around him feel this way, or have made it known to him that they feel that way. At least Sandi tells people to tweet poo poo for her and shows up to do her makeup sit in front of a camera once a week.

If Ben's gone he has left by his own decision and past experience with CIG will tell you that he's likely signed something on the way out the door too.

But what the gently caress do I know.

SomethingJones posted:

I don't buy Ben knowing the 'where the bodies' are buried line either

Because a leak saying that implies the leaker knows what Ben knows, so why not just leak it?

The truth of it is (if you ask me) that nobody actually knows what Ben does to justify his wage and Ben knows that people around him feel this way, or have made it known to him that they feel that way. At least Sandi tells people to tweet poo poo for her and shows up to do her makeup sit in front of a camera once a week.

If Ben's gone he has left by his own decision and past experience with CIG will tell you that he's likely signed something on the way out the door too.

But what the gently caress do I know.

quote:

We’re two weeks away from our Anniversary Special, which runs from November 24th to December 4th.

We will be highlighting all of our manufacturers and some of your favorite ships.

Chris Roberts and Sandi Gardiner will be hosting an eight episode ship series.

Stay tuned for further details, including the release of the full schedule next week.

SomethingJones posted:

It's lovely that CIG don't do anything funny any more, the wheels falling off the buggy was peak Citizen for me. I don't think they can top that in Season 7.

TheAgent posted:

no one there wants him around

A Neurotic Corncob posted:

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

That's a new ship in the image, isn't it.