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whatever7
Jul 26, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

DC Murderverse posted:

In a conversation about Allen, one of my younger coworkers (i work at a movie theater) didn't recognize Woody Allen's name off hand and after listing off a few of the classics (Annie Hall, Manhattan, etc) that he didn't know, he went to his phone to look up Woody Allen on IMDB and after about a minute he said "Oh yeah, I remember him, he was in Antz!" I laughed my rear end off. Like, Blue Jasmine and Midnight in Paris are very well regarded (I haven't seen either, because gently caress Woody Allen with a spiked broomstick) but i think it's a case of Hollywood willing someone into relevance because of their past work. Midnight in Paris was notable because it was the first time he had been more than mediocre in over a decade, and Blue Jasmine apparently lived and died by its main performance.

Blue Jasmine is very good, and Husband and Wives/Crimes and Misdemeanor/Bullets Over Boardways/etc was Woody Allen's strongest period IMO.

I have to admit I skip over most of his new works nowadays.

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Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this

whatever7 posted:

Blue Jasmine is very good, and Husband and Wives/Crimes and Misdemeanor/Bullets Over Boardways/etc was Woody Allen's strongest period IMO.

I have to admit I skip over most of his new works nowadays.

I'm not a big Bullets fan but I have a lot of of favorites in the years between it and Interiors. I don't think I've seen a new Allen film since Whatever Works, which was hot garbage, though I really like Match Point. At some point I saw bits and pieces of Irrational Man, and it was both astonishingly misanthropic and grimly tepid - it's like his brain fell out of his head in the 90s and someone put it back in and now it's all squishy and dirty.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Heads up, that link right there has descriptions of some very violent non-consensual sexual encounters/rape

David Guillod, Atomic Blonde producer and former talent manager, was already on the list because Jessica Barth (Ted, Ted 2) had accused him of raping her while he was her manager, had three more women come out and say that he raped them. Their names aren't mentioned in the article but one is a former assistant whose account was corroborated by former coworkers and the other are a former client of Guillod's and her friend, and all of them say he raped them while they were intoxicated/sleeping.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

This Writer Says Rolling Stone Founder Jann Wenner Offered Him Work In Exchange For Sex https://www.buzzfeed.com/maryanngeorgantopoulos/jann-wenner

“I had Jann Wenner’s tongue in my mouth,” Ryan said. “I went along for a second but then said something to the effect of ‘Oh please, I’m not that kind of girl.’”

More women come forward with sexual assault and harassment allegations against Harry Knowles
https://www.avclub.com/more-women-come-forward-with-sexual-assault-and-harassm-1818827581

Aly Raisman charges she was abused by USA Gymnastics doctor
https://sports.yahoo.com/aly-raisman-charges-abused-usa-gymnastics-doctor-135918439.html

precision posted:

Unless I missed something, the only thing Paul Reubens did was jerk off in a porn theater by himself. Shouldn't have even been a scandal.

The secondary scandal was "Hey, why are all these undercover cops being paid to sit and watch XXX movies all day?"

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

The Aly Raisman thing has been known for a while. Larry Nassar has had allegations of abuse and assault circling him for like 15 years. Dvora Meyers from deadspin has done some great takedowns of him over the past year.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


whatever7 posted:

Blue Jasmine is very good, and Husband and Wives/Crimes and Misdemeanor/Bullets Over Boardways/etc was Woody Allen's strongest period IMO.

I have to admit I skip over most of his new works nowadays.

Woody Allen movies have become something that you star in because you are letting it be known that you want to be taken seriously as an acteur. It's become a waste byproduct of the Hollywood conveyor belt. Do a Woody Allen picture and get your name tossed in the hat for other productions. And when you star, by extension you are also strengthening his position as the "beloved" Woody Allen and making it more difficult for others to name names.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



DC Murderverse posted:

i haven't ever gone looking but i'd be curious to hear from people like Kate Winslet or Jodie Foster (who seems to really take to assholes, given her casting Gibson in The Beaver in 2010).

Imagine going to Europe to make a movie with Polanski and having it end up one of his lesser works. Like, Adrian Brody probably ended up benefitting long term from starring in The Pianist (or he would have if he weren't apparently allergic to success), but imagine being Walter Matthau, going to Europe to film a movie with a rapist less than a decade after he fled the US and ending up starring in loving Pirates.

Harrison Ford did Frantic

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

I didn't realize Ridley made the call himself and let Sony know after the fact.

viral spiral posted:

https://twitter.com/THR/status/928444033717997568

hahahahahaahah Ridley Scott is a loving boss

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

ruddiger posted:

I didn't realize Ridley made the call himself and let Sony know after the fact.

god dammit warn people that you're quoiting a post from GBS i read a page of that garbage fire thread in disgust before i realized what it was

also this owns

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

https://twitter.com/thr/status/929169917131345920

loving the world's largest sigh

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Goddamnit.

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


Aw man :(

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...
Oh, my.

viral spiral
Sep 19, 2017

by R. Guyovich

Is anybody really surprised by this one?

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

More so than if it was the shat

Yaws
Oct 23, 2013

viral spiral posted:

Is anybody really surprised by this one?

Is he a known perv or something?

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


I'm unsurprised by Takei. I've seen video of him being really awkward and handsy around fans and this just takes that to its logical conclusion.

He's also seemed to take a serious dip in mental faculties over the last few years and i wonder if he has dementia or something honestly but that has little to do with the thread topic

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011
It's about time for my once per decade ban for being a consistently terrible poster.

Yaws posted:

Is he a known perv or something?

He isn't shy and likes the dick.

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Yeah I thought if there was gonna be any Star Trek people that were outed for sexual harassment it would be Gene or Shatner or Berman. gently caress.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007


Get ready for Price Time, Bitch



The Cameo posted:

Mel was the one person in Hollywood who was willing to talk to Jodie in the wake of the John Hinckley bullshit - at a time where he was a new hot star and she was mired under the publicity of all of that - and actively listened and helped her get through that time in her life, which was very, very rough. She considers him family. Robert Downey Jr. feels the same way. Those two hit it off making Air America and Mel and Jodie basically are at least half the reason RDJ wasn't someone who ended up dead in a gutter. Mel was also one of the first people to reach out to Robert after that final stay in rehab/jail that has kept him straight since -- he got him the lead role in The Singing Detective and put up the collateral to keep the production insured. So those two will always come down on the side of forgiveness when it comes to Mel until he like outright murders someone.


Like I said, it's a rumor, and it's him having been victimized by Geffen very early in his career.

Oh I see I thought you meant Keanu was a perpetrator of something not the victim.

I had never heard that.

viral spiral
Sep 19, 2017

by R. Guyovich

Yaws posted:

Is he a known perv or something?

IIRC he said some creepy pedo stuff on Howard Stern before. He's been really loving weird and obnoxious on social media in the last few years, too.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Yeah, Takei isn't surprising, but it still sucks.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
This is going to create a dumpster fire of :thunk: so many of these are turning out to be gay men preying on young guys poo poo

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Yeah, we'll be straddling a fine line here whether or not media will start focusing on that aspect instead of 'humans in general can be poo poo'.

I remain hopeful it'll just be assholes who try and paint sexuality as a reason.

viral spiral
Sep 19, 2017

by R. Guyovich
I guarantee you this is the tip of the iceberg for Takei, too. He literally tried to rape Brunton when he was sleep. I highly doubt committing a heinous act like that just happens to be a one-time offense; that is some serious behavioral sexual predation right there.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
I have to imagine Michael Stipe is frantically trying to remember if he carded every young guy he did crystal meth with. I mean, he even wrote a song about it.

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

precision posted:

Also, Ellen Page is my hero for being the first person to say "I regret doing a Woody Allen movie". Finally.

Griffin Newman, who recently played Arthur in the new Tick series on Amazon, also tweeted his regrets for acting in Woody Allen's next movie. He's obviously not as big a name as Ellen Page, but he talked about this almost a month ago.
http://www.vulture.com/2017/10/tick-actor-griffin-newman-regrets-working-with-woody-allen.html

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Andrew Kreisberg has just been suspended as a producer of the DC Universe shows on the CW. 19 unnamed sources came forward to talk about his sexual harassment and unprofessional behavior on set of the various shows.

CV 64 Fan
Oct 13, 2012

It's pretty dope.
I was gonna say Dan Schneider is next but I realized the parents are all too happy to look the other way and cash the check. Hopefully someone comes forward. I've heard such awful things.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
Yeah, Dan Schneider is probably gonna get accused soon. Which'll be really interesting for Nickelodeon, given that they've really leaned on poo poo he EPs over the past decade or so.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

James Woods Fan posted:

I was gonna say Dan Schneider is next but I realized the parents are all too happy to look the other way and cash the check. Hopefully someone comes forward. I've heard such awful things.

I think he's gonna be one of the biggest cases, and those are gonna take a little more time. I think he and whatever sort of weird young male sex ring Singer and Gary Goddard are involved in are going to be even bigger than Harvey if stuff comes out about them.

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

ruddiger posted:

I didn't realize Ridley made the call himself and let Sony know after the fact.
That's great and certainly better than what i suspected to have happened: Sony execs getting scared over the profitability of the movie. Good for him!

Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 10:15 on Nov 11, 2017

wizardofloneliness
Dec 30, 2008

So, whoever said they really hope Richard Dreyfuss doesn't get accused... uhh, maybe don't check the news.

Also, the guy who played Chuck on Gossip Girl now has two actresses saying he raped them. I know I shouldn't judge people based on appearances or the kinds of roles they play, but this doesn't surprise me at all.

Pedro De Heredia
May 30, 2006

Magic Hate Ball posted:

I mean, that's basically every Allen movie in the last twenty years. He may as well have had a brain hemorrhage and died on the red carpet premiere of Husbands and Wives given the impact of every movie that's followed, except he gets to live on, being a child molester and producing lovely lukewarm movies that nobody remembers. Did anyone even see "To Rome With Love"?

He has successful movies every 5 years or so (Match Point, Vicky Cristina Barcelona, Midnight in Paris, and Blue Jasmine all made a decent amount of money) and won an Oscar a few years ago. He's chugging along just fine.

The Woody Allen case is considerably different than a lot of other ones because 1) he's always denied it, 2) some other people have backed this denial, 3) there is a plausible alternative explanation, and 4) the case actually went through the legal system. You may well think he did it (and there's a good chance he did) but it's vague enough that treating him as guilty (declaring him persona non grata in Hollywood) is probably too extreme.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
He can't deny that he married his adopted daughter.

porfiria
Dec 10, 2008

by Modern Video Games

precision posted:

He can't deny that he married his adopted daughter.

I think this is technically not true but he's definitely a massive creep in any event. The Dylan Farrow stuff from everything I've seen is hard to get a handle on but I admit I haven't read up on it that extensively.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Well, yeah, technically. And "technically" Louis CK asked before he whipped his dick out...

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010

Zogo posted:



More women come forward with sexual assault and harassment allegations against Harry Knowles
https://www.avclub.com/more-women-come-forward-with-sexual-assault-and-harassm-1818827581


Completely unsurprising that he did it.

Am a little surprised people took him seriously enough that such a pathetically lame try hard was able to intimidate people into silence.

joylessdivision
Jun 15, 2013



Charlz Guybon posted:

Completely unsurprising that he did it.

Am a little surprised people took him seriously enough that such a pathetically lame try hard was able to intimidate people into silence.

He had a ton of nerd cred because of his site and within the Austin film community so it's not that surprising. I mean if Faraci was brought back after his accusations, are you really surprised the fat nerd king wouldn't be protected?

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Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Does this wave of accusations imply that Hollywood will now enter a police like state of political correctness with its media? :freep:

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