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Solice Kirsk posted:If we're talking misogynistic songs, then can we at least include the best one? I was expecting "Some Girls". Here's the take on "Money for Nothing", btw, including quoted form Knopfler. http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=1091 edit: a music thread like this one in No Music Discussion might be cool.
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funmanguy posted:Good point. There was a period from like the mid 90s-early 2000s were a lot of rappers were violently homophobic but also saturated their lyrics and album skits in the gayest material possible, it was weird I would have actually thought Biggie was gay if I hadn’t known him from anything but his lyrics
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They made Eminem do a duet with Elton John after he reached the homophobic comment threshold, which effectively cost Dido a gig. I think I may have heard a radio edit of Apache's Gangsta Bitch at some point. Maybe. Just thinking about it logically, they'd have to censor like 2/3rds of the song. Edit: nope it exists, the legends were true.
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Nov 12, 2017 21:08
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Jeanny by Falco is creepy as hell, but quite a popular song. I guess the meaning goes over most people's heads as the creepy part is in German. It's supposed to be about the mindset of a stalker. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urw-iutHw5E http://lyricstranslate.com/en/jeanny-jeanny.html-0
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Nov 12, 2017 21:35
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Every Breath You Take is also very intentionally creepy or as Sting puts it "I think the song is very, very sinister and ugly and people have actually misinterpreted it as being a gentle little love song, when it's quite the opposite.".
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FreudianSlippers posted:Every Breath You Take is also very intentionally creepy or as Sting puts it "I think the song is very, very sinister and ugly and people have actually misinterpreted it as being a gentle little love song, when it's quite the opposite.". He finally gave up trying to explain this and said if people think it's a love song, so be it.
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Nov 12, 2017 23:00
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It's funny, most of the Police's lyrics are pretty drat downbeat if you listen to them. Like, even "Walking on the Moon", about feeling lighter than air after a good date has anxiety riddled lines about hoping they don't break their neck from it. And that's like, their most upbeat messaged song. Hell, "Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic" is about a goon type who is crushing hard on a girl, fantasizing about like, marrying her and stuff, but is so sadbrains he can't even say hello to the girl he's maaaaaybe stalking?
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Goddamit! Well, how about this one:
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Krispy Wafer posted:Johnny Cash's Cocaine Blues is good because of all the convicts cheering about murdering a woman on the live album. I'm not sure which album you're referring to but if it was Folsom Prison they actually had to dub in crowd noises because the inmates we're very polite in fear of being punished or ejected.
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Nov 13, 2017 00:56
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Scaramouche posted:I'm not sure which album you're referring to but if it was Folsom Prison they actually had to dub in crowd noises because the inmates we're very polite in fear of being punished or ejected. Seriously, this is like being told there's no Santa Claus.
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Nov 13, 2017 01:01
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JediTalentAgent posted:Along the lines of things that didn't age well from television and music: Are really long videos still a thing even on the near endless airplay of a Youtube video or have audiences more or less given up on wanting the epic mini-movie videos that were so popular in the 90s and early 00s? Most recent I can think of is in 2011 the Beastie Boys did a half hour video called Fight For Your Right (Revisited) that had a ton of cameos. A shorter version of that was the video for Make Some Noise.
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Nov 13, 2017 01:15
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Kanye West made a 35min long movie that consisted of music videos for one of his albums. The movie itself is not very good but the videos are pretty good. Florence and the Machine's Odyssey chapter videos, and just Lady Gaga in general.
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ElwoodCuse posted:Most recent I can think of is in 2011 the Beastie Boys did a half hour video called Fight For Your Right (Revisited) that had a ton of cameos. A shorter version of that was the video for Make Some Noise. A particularly meta example, since a lot of that is about how badly the beastie boys would have aged if they kept doing the same thing for 30 years. It's a pretty fantastic short, too.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I genuinely think this is one of the catchier Beatles songs and I hate that it's also creepy as gently caress. John Lennon also hated it, after he went full woke. Beatallica kinda redeems it though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR3NGz3sCps
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Nov 13, 2017 03:12
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Mister Kingdom posted:He finally gave up trying to explain this and said if people think it's a love song, so be it. People apparently quite often play Colin Hay's Waiting For My Real Life To Begin at weddings, which he's said he finds pretty weird.
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Nov 13, 2017 05:55
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'E-mail my heart' makes me think of the Jimmy Buffet song which is specifically singing about his ineptitude with technology. Kinda funny given a lot of the things he references in that song were huge at the time and are forgotten now.
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Nov 13, 2017 07:54
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But a change in style or singer can change the feel or direction of a song. Consider a female vocalist covers of "Run For Your Life" which removes a misogynist direction as a result of it being sung by a woman and about a man. It feels more like coming from a narrators who are telling the guy, "You cheat on me, we're over." along the lines of a "These Boots Are Made For Walkin'" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmxZ2jvU4R0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SEz3BsZ2z8
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Nov 13, 2017 08:58
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I enjoy gender swapped "Baby it's cold outside"
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JediTalentAgent posted:But a change in style or singer can change the feel or direction of a song.
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Tiggum posted:Even more than the genders of the singers I think it's just the words "little girl". It's always really creepy when a man refers to a grown woman as "little girl". Change that to something else and even with a man singing it I don't think it would sound nearly so bad. Well if you want to go down that rabbit hole, surely "baby" would have to be even creepier. The somewhat disturbing fact is that 99% of our terms of endearment make us out to be either pedophiles or cannibals for whatever reason.
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Sir Lemming posted:Well if you want to go down that rabbit hole, surely "baby" would have to be even creepier. Baby has gotten somewhat normalised, so I think little girl sounds much creepier. It's got Big Bad Wolf vibes. I like to use random nouns. Every so often there's one that goes over badly*, but it's all part of the fun. *teacup pig
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Sarcopenia posted:Kanye West made a 35min long movie that consisted of music videos for one of his albums. The movie itself is not very good but the videos are pretty good. I watched the Odyssey again recently and it's so good.
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Nov 13, 2017 13:34
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Mister Kingdom posted:That genre survived into the 70s with "Run Joey Run". Abusive father, dead daughter. I give it points for being waaaaay over the top. quote:You think that I don't feel love Beachcomber posted:I enjoy gender swapped "Baby it's cold outside" Nureyev wasn't much of a singer, but his dancing on that episode is great (he also launched the Muppet Show into real popularity because he insisted on being on the show after seeing an episode, and he was a major, major star at the time).
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Going back to the 50's, we all know Jerry Lee Lewis's Great Balls of Fire. It's one of early rock and roll's biggest hits. It's also about how much he wants to gently caress his 14 year old niece. It's cool, though, he wound up marrying her, so at least there's that.
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Good old Ray Charles. Great artist, "I Got a Woman" was and is a great song, but then he gets to the verse:quote:She's there to love me Although in his defence, he probably couldn't see what the problem was.
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Beachcomber posted:I enjoy gender swapped "Baby it's cold outside" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpDLpz88V-I
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Wheat Loaf posted:Good old Ray Charles. Great artist, "I Got a Woman" was and is a great song, but then he gets to the verse: I mean if I was a blind dude I’d probably be exceptionally weird and emotional about being left alone too to be fair. Although he was probably used to that by then
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While we're on the subject of completely inappropriate songs, who else remembers this one-hit wonder? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9TXjIadhq0 Lyrics: Benny Mardones posted:She's just sixteen years old
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EmmyOk posted:I watched the Odyssey again recently and it's so good. Yeah it's stunning. Florence is so delightfully Kate Bushy in it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbyAZQ45uww Smash the patriarchy!
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Zamboni_Rodeo posted:While we're on the subject of completely inappropriate songs, who else remembers this one-hit wonder? The scary part is that it hit the Top 20. Twice.
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The podcast Beyond Yacht Rock did an entire episode about songs about loving teenagers. It's amazing how many there are.
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mojo1701a posted:The podcast Beyond Yacht Rock did an entire episode about songs about loving teenagers. It's amazing how many there are. That's because pop music is for a) teenagers, and b) people who can't accept that they're no longer teenagers. This leads me to c). Have you noticed that a ridiculous percentage rock music is about teenage angst and/or being a rock star, often on the road? Well that's because many of the people who write it have no life experience other than being an angsty teenager, and they spend lots of time being a musician on the road, often dreaming about stardom. In other words it's all a gigantic circle jerk.
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Steel Panther is all too self-aware about that.
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I was watching the Season 6 Christmas episode of The Office, and Michael demeaningly refers to Phyllis-dressed-as-Santa as "Tranny Clause"
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CommonShore posted:That's because pop music is for a) teenagers, and b) people who can't accept that they're no longer teenagers. on the other hand, that's what Roundabout is about, and Roundabout is a fantastic song
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I was always skeeved out by My Sharona, since the dude is saying he "always gets it up for the touch of the younger kind". Just looked it up, and at the time, the real-life Sharona was 16-17, and Doug Fieger was nearly a decade older than her. Not as drastic as some of the examples, but ishkabibble.
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Ted Nugent had a song called "Jailbait". This should be all I need to say, but here's the lyrics for the last verse: quote:Well I don't care if you're just thirteen Oh dear.
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