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PerilPastry posted:"Babbington looked wretchedly from one to the other, licked his lips and said, ' I ate your rat, sir. I am very sorry, and I ask your pardon.' "Sure, it would have been a strangely hasty, agitated meal had he eaten it before" said Stephen. (I'm quoting from memory, how close am I?)
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xiansi posted:And my favourite: The follow up when Jack is talking to Stephen about it, and Stephen says something like "Oh no, the Americans are very in favor of copulation."
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Nov 13, 2017 17:50
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What's the exchange between Stephen and the lady of the house when the previously-jealous naturalist tells Stephen that he's so indebted to him that he has named a plant after him that then stinks up the room? I remember the scene but not the exchange, and it was one of my favorites.
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"Why,' said Stephen, 'it is because they are curtailed of course. " -- ...looking angrily at the wombat: and a moment later, 'Come now, Stephen, this is coming it pretty high: your brute is eating my hat.' 'So he is, too,' said Dr. Maturin. 'But do not be perturbed, Jack; it will do him no harm, at all. His digestive processes-- -- My favorite is probably: Why there you are, Stephen,' cried Jack. 'You are come home, I find.' That is true,' said Stephen with an affectionate look: he prized statements of this kind in Jack. Also add just about any description of Stephen laughing.
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Nov 13, 2017 23:39
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I quoted Hobbes. The learned cove who spoke of midshipmen as being nasty, brutish, and short?
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On reflection my favorite has to be Jack's triumphant: "You needn't hurry, ladies - they won't be allowed off the sloop till the evening gun!" 
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I have a question about that quote, in fact. Does "can" refer to something other than the modern meaning in this context? I'm pretty sure canned beer did not exist until the 1930s, and canning foods wasn't common (although it technically existed) in the period of these stories.
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Colonial Air Force posted:I have a question about that quote, in fact. Interesting catch. My guess would be that usage is short for "canikin" which probably predates the idea of "canned goods". I suspect you'd need to check the oed though. Edit: quick check of Merriam Webster online says "can" as drinking vessel predates the 12th century and is present in Spenser. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Nov 14, 2017 |
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Nov 14, 2017 20:20
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:"You debauched my sloth!" This entire scene is hysterical, especially the part in French right before this where Maturin calls him a bitch with crapulous morals (iirc).
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Nov 14, 2017 23:02
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Interesting catch. It's actually bothered me for a while, but usually in the car, then I forget to look it up or ask. POB is usually really good about avoiding anachronisms, so I thought it was odd. Etymology Online has some origins based on Swedish kanna, from Proto-Germanic and originally latin, as a "drinking vessel." I had just never heard of it as such before then.
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Nov 14, 2017 23:54
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Pulain patois mixup in M&C gets my vote I swear I know the first word from somewhere... I have been working my way through Patrick Tull's audio. In ionian mission does the book really say Mustafa had a "speed" of canvas or did Patrick Tull misspeak? I can't quite remember the exact passage in the book but I'm pretty sure it was in reference to the torgud sailing, not the surprise.
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/AubreyMaturin/ posted:"Two cans of beere" appear in Ben Johnson's "Every Man In His Humour", performed in 1598, and there are earlier references to "drinking cans" in Scots from the 1490s onwards (some of these are specifically to earthenware jugs rather than pewter ones - not sure if that is significant)...
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Colonial Air Force posted:It's actually bothered me for a while, but usually in the car, then I forget to look it up or ask. POB is usually really good about avoiding anachronisms, so I thought it was odd. Lockback posted:
This sort of thing almost always bring a tear to my eye, I often find this sort of platonic love very moving. Lockback posted:Also add just about any description of Stephen laughing. Heh, yeah.
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Colonial Air Force posted:It's actually bothered me for a while, but usually in the car, then I forget to look it up or ask. POB is usually really good about avoiding anachronisms, so I thought it was odd. O'Brian uses can a lot, now that I saw that I notice them using it all the time. He does say the Surprise uses leather tankards for beer, so I think he is consistent. In Reverse of the Medal did O'Brian really mess up Babbington's name and have to correct it in the next book? That's pretty funny.
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Lockback posted:In Reverse of the Medal did O'Brian really mess up Babbington's name and have to correct it in the next book? That's pretty funny. Where? I don't remember that.
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Genghis Cohen posted:Where? I don't remember that. http://wiki.hmssurprise.org/phase3/index.php/William_Babbington Fanny refers to him as Charles and no one says anything, and then in the next book she says its because of a masked ball. Seems like O'Brian just forgot the name.
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Lockback posted:http://wiki.hmssurprise.org/phase3/index.php/William_Babbington Haha, I remember the masked ball thing, I did not catch that it was (or maybe was) covering for a previous mistake.
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I decided to start re-reading and figured I'd better check on the existence of goons. Goons found. There are definitely some things I either missed or didn't get when I first read these. Regarding best quotes, I laughed for about fifteen minutes in Post Captain when a ship's boy comes to Jack's cabin. (Paraphrasing) "And I suppose they sent you to get the key to the keel lock?" "Yes sir, Bonden said the gunner's daughter might have it, but Mr ABC said he wasn't married". Delay in reading for a tad while I review the engagement between Surprise, the China Fleet, and Linois. The explanation at http://web.mit.edu/hwebb/www/surprise.html#day1 makes a few incorrect statements, but points out contradictions that I noted when I was reading it. I eventually "gave up and enjoyed it" so I could return later and deal with it. There was something in Post Captain's action that bothered me as well, but I don't rightly remember which it was. ps. Also rather funny in Surprise when Maturin gets a camel, apologizes to it before mounting, makes some comment about having no interest in being given a woman, then the camel driver goes on for a few minutes about how all the ladies of pleasure are icky and shouldn't he like a nice clean boy instead. (Might have time to look them up tomorrow) p.p.s. quote:... it sent the bread-barge careering over the table, and a midshipman into Jack's cabin, with the news that the wind was shifting into the east, a little mouse-like child, stiff in his best uniform, with his dirk at his side --- he had slept with it. p3s. quote:'Sahib, at once. Does the sahib prefer a male elephant or a female elephant?' PhantomOfTheCopier fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Nov 28, 2017 |
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Well top it the proverbial nob, I didn't recall that Stephen performed skull surgery on (at least) two sailors. (M+C, and Mauritius).
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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:Well top it the proverbial nob, I didn't recall that Stephen performed skull surgery on (at least) two sailors. (M+C, and Mauritius). Which apparently wasn't an uncommon ailment to cure for a good ship surgeon then, with all the stuff that could fall down on a ship and the many chances to fall down somewhere. It was also one of the more actually helpful things a surgeon could do before the modern time, when a surgeon/doctor killed fewer people than he saved on average. One reason why we not only have trepanation instruments dating back to early Aztec, Inca, Chinese and Roman times, but a surprising amount of trepanned skulls from the Neolithic era.
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Yeah I've had hernia surgery and I cannot even begin to fathom a concept of how this was done without anesthesia and strong antiseptics. 
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Getting blackout drunk is a kind of anesthesia.
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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:Yeah I've had hernia surgery and I cannot even begin to fathom a concept of how this was done without anesthesia and strong antiseptics. Quickly.
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Arglebargle III posted:Quickly. Hence the legendary surgery with the 300% mortality rate.
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It's rather fortunate that alcohol plus significant pain causes most to pass out. Also fortunate that pain receptors are only on the surface. Probably why cauterization was so popular; much faster than stitches, for which they give locals these days. At least with an open surgery, once the spreaders are in, assuming the operating table is stable  there won't be much to feel.Surely there are happier topics. Back to fun quotes! quote:He returned to the wheel, the figures turning smoothly in his mind, checked and rechecked with the same satisfying result. Then, having stepped to the lee-rail, there to throw up the aged Bath bun and the glass of Marsala that he had just swallowed, committing them to the sea with long-accustomed ease, he addressed the officer of the watch... PhantomOfTheCopier fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Dec 15, 2017 |
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I'm sorry to interrupt fun quote time but I just finished The Thirteen Gun Salute, and did Stephen just spend the entire book practicing with a sharpshooter's rifle only to ice Wray and Ledward offscreen? And then dissected them to get rid of the bodies HOLY gently caress, STEPHEN I was so happy for him with his orangutan and rhinoceros, and then he goes and does this ice-cold superpro poo poo e: Slightly more on topic, it is always super funny and shocking to me when one of the foremast hands or Killick uses the word "loving" in a sentence. Because of how sparingly O'Brian does it, every f-bomb feels like a declaration of war. Phy fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Dec 21, 2017 |
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Phy posted:I'm sorry to interrupt fun quote time but I just finished The Thirteen Gun Salute, and did Stephen just spend the entire book practicing with a sharpshooter's rifle only to ice Wray and Ledward offscreen? 
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Re: usage of "gently caress" let us not forget "Oh, gently caress the immemorial custom of the service".
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Accidental double post (quote is not edit) so I might as well admit I never quite grasped the exact fate of Ledward and Wray. These books do reward careful reading, don't they?
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Phy posted:I'm sorry to interrupt fun quote time but I just finished The Thirteen Gun Salute, and did Stephen just spend the entire book practicing with a sharpshooter's rifle only to ice Wray and Ledward offscreen? I finished that book a week or so back and that was basically my exact reaction. Thirteen Gun Salute Spoiler: Killing them off-screen I liked. Somethings an intelligent agent does are not witnessed and of all things, Stephen would be most discrete with that. The dissection was loving cold though. And bringing it to Van Buren as basically a play-date just added insult on top. That's just how little Stephen thought of those two.
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That European spleen totally made Van Buren's day.
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Indeed I remember "fuggin" appearing, so I've been a bit stunned to not see it. It's always --- missing (yes, rendered like that, em-dashed). It's been a dozen years since my first full reading, so it'll be fun to see when it fuggin begins.
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I remember thinking in 13 Stephen totally killed these guys and dumped their bodies on his friend, but I didn't want to ask for confimation
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It's strongly implied that Stephen shoots them as they try to leave town.
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Professor Shark posted:I remember thinking in 13 Stephen totally killed these guys and dumped their bodies on his friend, but I didn't want to ask for confimation Arglebargle III posted:It's strongly implied that Stephen shoots them as they try to leave town. In the most Stephen way, it's possible the Sultan had them killed with Stephen's assistance. That's why it was perfect that it wasn't witnessed by the reader. But actually, yeah. Stephen gunned them down while chewing coca leaves.
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quote:'Make a lane there', he said, addressing the penguins as he hurried Stephen down the road that countless generations of the birds had made.
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Phy posted:I'm sorry to interrupt fun quote time but I just finished The Thirteen Gun Salute, and did Stephen just spend the entire book practicing with a sharpshooter's rifle only to ice Wray and Ledward offscreen? I believe this is also the same book where he dissects a corpse, takes a break and uses the same scalpel to carve the chicken he's having for lunch.
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Raskolnikov2089 posted:I believe this is also the same book where he dissects a corpse, takes a break and uses the same scalpel to carve the chicken he's having for lunch. At the beginning of Fortune of War, Stephen surprises everyone in the cricket game. I had to look it up online to be sure, but pob style suggests it was a standard Stephen blunder and it seems his actions were not cricket.
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In the cricket game he is playing hurley (Irish field hockey) instead of cricket.
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