AP posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS56YARIzYg&t=331s

Percelus posted:

i doubt they would fire ben since he's been there since the very beginning he definitely knows where the bodies are buried plus he's loyal to a fault which matters more than competence in a scam

quote:

I'm going to get a weekend where I can just sit in my chair with a bottle of Scotch and some M&Ms for two days.

Percelus posted:

i doubt they would fire ben since he's been there since the very beginning he definitely knows where the bodies are buried plus he's loyal to a fault which matters more than competence in a scam

G0RF posted:

So he/she failed to adequately describe a pen during a pear-to-pear interview. Next time he/she will nail it, though.

SCtrumpHaters posted:

In the South we try to keep it civil.


Theres only two types of people.

Those who prefer Coke........ and pedophiles.

spacetoaster posted:

Is Ben fired?

big nipples big life posted:

Gambling boxes suck, free ones suck less but they are just there to entice people into spending money, we poo poo on CIG all day for enticing mentally unwell people to spend money with shady tactics, I don't see why anyone else is exempt.

AP posted:

The nib is hand formed in 18-carat gold, contains military grade ink. The barrel is carved from Banu aromatic sandalwood. The pen is presented in a number limited edition wooden case, come with a brochure for the lucky purchaser or recipient. The discerning purchaser can also have the pen emblazoned with a custom phrase in Latin, a tidy $2,000 price tag.

Bayonnefrog posted:

Dr. Pepper better than all of 'em

AP posted:

The nib is hand formed in 18-carat gold, contains military grade ink. The barrel is carved from Banu aromatic sandalwood. The pen is presented in a number limited edition wooden case, come with a brochure for the lucky purchaser or recipient. The discerning purchaser can also have the pen emblazoned with a custom phrase in Latin, a tidy $2,000 price tag.

Bayonnefrog posted:

Dr. Pepper better than all of 'em

CrazyLoon posted:

I regret ordering one when I visited the US this summer. It seriously made me feel like vomiting.

AP posted:

I like the shitizens that are really mad at r/starcitizen_refunds.

When Chris Roberts asked for $500,000 during the kickstarter he got $2,134,374, but that was great because he could make the game and it would be amazing.
In fact, if you add what they raised on their own website during the kickstarter period they raised $6.2 million. Then Chris Roberts said he was going to do without investors and could make the game for $14-20 million.
Reaching $20 million there was much joy, though costs and postage means they really need 23 million.
$23 million was duly raised.
The cheering was great at Games Com when Chris walked on stage to tell them they'd just broken $50 million.
According to the RSI website, they are currently on over $164 million, not counting several years worth of subscriptions.

Anyone mad about a few dozen people refunding, even if the amounts are sometimes in the thousands, is actually really worried $164 million isn't enough.

Beet Wagon posted:

Thank you, my friend. It's not easy, for sure, at least not if you're a weirdo brokebrain like me. I can think of at least a handful of recent instances where someone was attacking not just an opinion I had stated but basically me as a person, and those times it's really hard to be like "You know what? Go gently caress yourself, I'm gonna go have dinner with my wife instead of caring about this." but honestly it's incredibly freeing.

XK put it nicely:

Sunswipe posted:

I never troll people who prefer Pepsi. The poor bastards are suffering enough.

Beet Wagon posted:

It's one of my favorite parts of this whole thing. The whole bottom half of the meta thread over there is people crying about "how come /refunds isn't going read-only?"

Uhhhh.... cause we actually discuss refunds there instead of writing murder fanfiction about a stranger.

Beet Wagon posted:

I can think of at least a handful of recent instances where someone was attacking not just an opinion I had stated but basically me as a person.

Toops posted:

I like arguing, it's a stupid game to me, like table tennis. Of course, the number one key is never get angry. It's a game, it's supposed to be fun!

AP posted:

Step 2c is like a secret weapon.

I like saying I was wrong when I was wrong, most people really don't know how to react and end up getting annoyed for no reason.

G0RF posted:

Wow — catching up on the thread has been breakneck reading. Beet’s reveal of the Jester / Ivan thing, Jester’s cartoon villain pulling of the ol’ switcheroo maneuver, /DS possibly going read only as the regulars cry out in protest about the horrors of Derek Smart unchained and goons triumphant...

Jester’s urgency about switching /DS to read only and hightailing to Scramsville — during what has historically been a period of relative moderation of Derek’s warlording — is especially curious. What’s that really about? Is he embarrassed by having been caught, possibly handily, playing the disinterested facilitator of the sub and eager buyer / seller or is there more to it? Has he been some sort of conduit for ship liquidation from CIG, too? His bug out / shut it down response seems extreme unless he’s worried there are other shoes to drop.

(If I’m just repeating what everyone already thinks I apologize. It just seems pretty jumpy for the guy.)

In far less provocative news, there’s a new CIG Interview at Glassdoor.


So he/she failed to adequately describe a pen during a pear-to-pear interview. Next time he/she will nail it, though.

Toops posted:

Just sounds like you guys aren't very good at internet arguing. Remember, people rarely admit defeat on the internet, so your main goal is to make your opponent look stupid.

Here's a page out of the playbook:

Step 1. State your case and provide evidence for the things you say (this is by far the most time-consuming part). If you're handwaving or paraphrasing and don't cite sources, you're loving up.
Pro Tip: Focus on one topic and keep things succinct. If you go too wide, you'll get picked apart.

Step 2a. If the person responds emotionally and ignores the evidence, call attention to their emotion, re-state the evidence in polite but condescending way, with just a vague hint that they're subnormal, and inform them that the burden of proof lies on them to counter your evidence. This can go back and forth as they get more and more triggered and your replies feed the meltdown. Cut it off quickly otherwise you look like a bully. Move to 3.

Step 2b. If the person tries to discredit your evidence but fails, you win. Explain their failure in a general way (not point-by-point). Be polite but condescending. Wait for their reply, then move to 3.
Pro tip: Never get into multi-quote point-by-point rebuttal mode. If they've chopped up your argument and replied to each one, don't reply to each one. They'll turn the argument into semantics about the minutiae and your broader argument will be lost. Just keep putting the onus on them to disprove your source(s). Imply they haven't read or understood the evidence.

Step 2c. If the person succeeds in discrediting your evidence, you're done. Admit it and thank them for correcting you, otherwise you're no better than LogicalChimp.

Step 3. Attempt to terminate the conversation. Be slightly deferent, offer an olive branch. 9/10 times they won't take it. Something like "I've given you every opportunity to counter the evidence, and you can't, so it looks like we're done here. Thanks for the discussion, I hope it was helpful."

Step 4. If they reply with a "gently caress you" or "why are you even here if you hate the game so much" or "why don't you just get a refund?" or suchlike, this is your chance for a coup-de-grace. Use it wisely, then make very clear that this is your last response and the conversation is over. Giving them life advice works well. Or you can point out that they're trolling, which is especially effective if they've been accusing you of trolling.

I like arguing, it's a stupid game to me, like table tennis. Of course, the number one key is never get angry. It's a game, it's supposed to be fun!

Toops posted:

Oh yeah same here. The cornerstone of winning an internet argument is ending it on your terms. Politely admitting you're wrong (or if it spirals into a subjective opinion battle, simply admitting a difference of opinion and cutting it off), goes a long way towards winning you respect in the community as well.

Mirificus posted:

G0RF posted:

So he/she failed to adequately describe a pen during a pear-to-pear interview. Next time he/she will nail it, though.

G0RF posted:

It’s a greasy tactic, but I bet there are a crapton of Gen X and Boomer CIG whales probably feeling pretty drat tempted to scoop up BF2’s ultimate unlock package and so they can have a playable P2W Space Game this season.

They only have drop a pittance and FINALLY they can be space gaming and pew-peeing at 50 FPS in 4k as an overpowered from day one Hero in an ever-expanding universe. It’s a small price to pay, really, for the chance they spent a huge price to pay not to get.

Mirificus posted:

big nipples big life posted:

Gambling boxes suck, free ones suck less but they are just there to entice people into spending money, we poo poo on CIG all day for enticing mentally unwell people to spend money with shady tactics, I don't see why anyone else is exempt.

thatguy posted:

You say that now but have you seen how cool I look in TF2?