Dusty Lens posted:

While we're playing catchup what phase of the ELE are we on? I stopped following for about a year or so.

Mirificus posted:

Dusty Lens posted:

While we're playing catchup what phase of the ELE are we on? I stopped following for about a year or so.

Risc1911 posted:

Golli posted:

Sounds like it's time for TouchdownTim to step up and be the jackbooted mod r/DS needs

Mr Fronts posted:

On the day of Eva's 17th birthday, Tess took her to the UEE enlistment office, where she clipped through a wall, found herself in a near-vacuum without needing a space suit, was was killed by a ramp, woke up alive in a wank pod with her wrists doubled back against her now-bendy elbows, screamed, appeared in space for no reason and then died.

The End.

AP posted:

His Mrs is on their video uploaded today, it's a risk firing him and leaving her there. So I'd assume things are still playing out.

Thoatse posted:

There's a right way and a wrong way and then there's the warlord way.

Colostomy Bag posted:

I think the most important question is...how would one translate "Internet Warlord" into Xi'an?

Beet Wagon posted:

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Games > Stupid Crowdfunding Accomplishment Mausoleum > Star Citizen: (ex-)criminals, stalkers,
harassers, and so on.

DapperDon posted:

THIS.

Making the refund sub read-only is counter productive when each refund (which is done in a case by case basis) has a different set of criteria and requires asking for help. They are flailing at anything and honestly feel like the victims in all of this. But what burns their pimple infested collective rear end is that they view this as Derek Smart and Goons winning once again. They have yet to figure out that the rest of the Reddit general population thinks they are cancer and wonder why they are run out of town everywhere they post except for their safe place. For me, the real fun will be what they do AFTER it's shut down. Because none of them can control their impulses to poo poo the bed and go too far without a jackbooted mod to keep them in line. Sort of like Iraq in a way once Saddam was removed if you think about it. Sure it was a humanitarian shithole, but look what happened when the Warden got removed.

The Titanic posted:

Oh shoot. I’ve never been called out before as an ex-criminal, stalker and harasser before.

But did he mention motorcycle gangs? I’ve never drove a motorcycle but I think I can definitely fit into the mold.

By the way, my black cape came in the other day and I’m thinking about wearing it to the EvilCon next week when we discuss how to destroy Christmas (and Star Citizen), but do you think it would clash more with my black boots with the silver horns or red boots with the gold chains and skulls?

Toops posted:

Just sounds like you guys aren't very good at internet arguing. Remember, people rarely admit defeat on the internet, so your main goal is to make your opponent look stupid.

Here's a page out of the playbook:

Step 1. State your case and provide evidence for the things you say (this is by far the most time-consuming part). If you're handwaving or paraphrasing and don't cite sources, you're loving up.
Pro Tip: Focus on one topic and keep things succinct. If you go too wide, you'll get picked apart.

Step 2a. If the person responds emotionally and ignores the evidence, call attention to their emotion, re-state the evidence in polite but condescending way, with just a vague hint that they're subnormal, and inform them that the burden of proof lies on them to counter your evidence. This can go back and forth as they get more and more triggered and your replies feed the meltdown. Cut it off quickly otherwise you look like a bully. Move to 3.

Step 2b. If the person tries to discredit your evidence but fails, you win. Explain their failure in a general way (not point-by-point). Be polite but condescending. Wait for their reply, then move to 3.
Pro tip: Never get into multi-quote point-by-point rebuttal mode. If they've chopped up your argument and replied to each one, don't reply to each one. They'll turn the argument into semantics about the minutiae and your broader argument will be lost. Just keep putting the onus on them to disprove your source(s). Imply they haven't read or understood the evidence.

Step 2c. If the person succeeds in discrediting your evidence, you're done. Admit it and thank them for correcting you, otherwise you're no better than LogicalChimp.

Step 3. Attempt to terminate the conversation. Be slightly deferent, offer an olive branch. 9/10 times they won't take it. Something like "I've given you every opportunity to counter the evidence, and you can't, so it looks like we're done here. Thanks for the discussion, I hope it was helpful."

Step 4. If they reply with a "gently caress you" or "why are you even here if you hate the game so much" or "why don't you just get a refund?" or suchlike, this is your chance for a coup-de-grace. Use it wisely, then make very clear that this is your last response and the conversation is over. Giving them life advice works well. Or you can point out that they're trolling, which is especially effective if they've been accusing you of trolling.

I like arguing, it's a stupid game to me, like table tennis. Of course, the number one key is never get angry. It's a game, it's supposed to be fun!

Dementropy posted:

MilesK posted:

Ben hosted the show this week. I think that's usually Lando's job.

MilesK posted:

Please don't argue on the internet. It's really dumb.

Dooguk posted:

Could someone explain this as I don't speak Citizen.

Dooguk posted:

Could someone explain this as I don't speak Citizen.

Dooguk posted:

Could someone explain this as I don't speak Citizen.

Dementropy posted:

Beet Wagon posted:

I think I've only ever PMed the mods of /r/ds one time, and that was just as a courtesy to let them know I'd be banning their users brigading /refunds If I had to guess what Jester was talking about here it'd be the general claims of death threats that float around, not so much any actual death threats reported to the mods or made to the mods. Also, Derek basically hates me, so I feel pretty safe in saying I'm innocent of whatever stupid charges they're leveling against this mysterious "crew" lol

Dementropy posted:

Ursine Catastrophe posted:

The methodology they have for trading ships between players is a (intentionally, probably) massive clusterfuck that makes it extremely difficult to keep track of where any one individual's money has ended up. Previously this was used as an excuse to delay refunds or reduce the amount of money you were allowed to be refunded, effectively enticing people into refunding by selling their ships on the grey market instead and keeping the money locked into the project.

This is the first I've ever seen/heard of locked ships, so my bet is that they hired some new CSR people (after promoting the old CSR people to project managers, lead developers and CTOs) who just refunded people post-citcon based on "amount of money it says they paid us" and now they're having to scramble to figure out who actually owns the ships they just refunded.

If this is the case, then this is probably going to be absolutely hilarious as people who've traded in the past will likely have ships they traded for years ago suddenly ripped out of their accounts because some dude they haven't talked to in years submitted for a refund. This would be the greediest/dumbest possible way of going about it for CIG (as opposed to eating the "cost" of letting people hold onto their digital ship pictures), and would likely kill the grey market entirely as nobody would be able to trust that any trade they make going forward would actually stay in their account. And this is happening as jester is shutting down r/ds because he wants to keep his grey market alt account alive and kicking.

Dusty Lens posted:

If CIG put a policy in place that locks down any ships that moved through an account that has since been refunded or otherwise closed that is going to be insanely hilarious.

Ursine Catastrophe posted:

They do the opposite of this last I heard--

1. You buy $100 worth of jpegs
2. You trade a $50 jpeg to someone else's account in exchange for their $30 jpeg
3. You request a refund
4. They investigate, say "you're only entitled to $50 of refunds"
5. You accept, they close your account, the $30 jpeg you traded for isn't yours to refund and just disappears into the ether

Beet Wagon posted:

Tarkaroshe trying to rules-lawyer his way into convincing me that discussing Star Citizen is clearly against the rules of a subreddit that says "PLEASE DO: Discuss about Star Citizen" in the sidebar is the highlight of my night and will keep my comedy furnace stoked for days to come.