Pesmerga posted:

In between this and your views on chocolate, I’ve come to the conclusion you are utterly perverse.

Still a good poster though.

Julio Cruz posted:

No-one thought no deal was a realistic possibility when Article 50 was triggered because leaving the EU with no deal was (rightly) seen as a completely insane thing to do. It's only in the last couple of months that the extreme Brexit wing of the Tory party has been pushing it as an actual potential outcome.

Guavanaut posted:

Being turned into a sausage roll otoh he may have been far less cool with. Then again as often as you may eat this bread...

Zephro posted:

Someone in this very thread posted a pretty comprehensive guide to home-brewed beer and wine a few threads back. Pretty good for pre-loading to save money on a London night out. Assuming you can find anywhere in your 78 sq ft executive bedsit to put the tubs.

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Nigel Farage has lost a legal battle against anti-racism campaign group Hope Not Hate over his accusations that they are "violent and undemocratic".

The anti-hate campaigners crowdsourced funding to sue the former Ukip leader for libel over the claims, and demanded £100,000 in damages.

Mr Farage has reportedly now agreed to withdraw his statement and not repeat it.

The comments in question were made during an LBC radio show last December. Mr Farage was responding to Brendan Cox, the husband of murdered Labour MP Jo Cox, who had accused the 53-year-old MEP of stoking tensions over a terrorist attack on a Berlin Christmas market. Mr Farage had appeared to blame the attack on Angela Merkel, leading Mr Cox to claim he was "blaming politicians for the actions of extremists".

In response, Mr Farage said: "Yes, well of course he would know more about extremists than me, Mr Cox. He backs organisations like Hope Not Hate, who masquerade as being lovely and peaceful, but actually pursue violent and undemocratic means.”

After Mr Farage refused to retract the allegation, Hope Not Hate launched an appeal asking the public to help fund a legal case. It said 16,000 people have since donated to the fund.

Facing the threat of a court battle, Mr Farage has now agreed to withdraw his claims.

In a statement filed to the court, he reportedly said: "Having now considered the position further I am happy to acknowledge that Hope Not Hate does not tolerate or pursue violent or undemocratic behaviour."

The MEP also agreed not to repeat the claims or allow anyone to do so on his behalf.

Nick Lowles, Hope Not Hate's chief executive, said: "I am delighted with this victory and that we've held Nigel Farage to account.

"The case was about the truth and about HOPE not hate saying no to Nigel Farage's attempts to smear us. For too long right-wing politicians have got away with smearing and abusing their opponents. We drew a line in the sand and ‘no more'.

"We are an avowedly peaceful organisation and Farage's false claims were deeply damaging to the vital work we do bringing communities together across cultural and religious divides.

"Anyone else repeating these smears our pursuing a false news agenda against our organisation should be put on note that we won't hesitate to take further action to protect our reputation. We also hope this case sends a wider signal to right-wing politicians that smearing people will no longer be accepted."

Mr Farage said: “I am very surprised at Hope Not Hate’s announcement today that they have won their legal case against me. Some victory! Their statement today is thoroughly disingenuous."

Tsaedje posted:

Fully Greggsified and loving it

RabidWeasel posted:

His "No I'm not owned" response was to say that since it didn't go to court and each side paid their own fees then he actually won because he spent less, or something.

TomViolence posted:

Guardian posted:

Streeting refers to the Telegraph splash. (See 10.32pm.) He says the MPs identified by the Telegraph want to implement what Theresa May proposed in her Florence speech, which was that the UK should continue to comply with ECJ rulings during the transition. It is government ministers who are unable to say that who are the true mutineers, he says.

The Conservative MP Anna Soubry intervenes. Referring to the Telegraph headline, she says it is a “blatant piece of bullying”. But she says she is not personally bothered. She takes being named by the Telegraph as a mutineer as “a badge of honour”, she says.

Oh dear me posted:

Do that, but UC does give you some extra money for being sick, about £300 a month if you're in the support group.

jabby posted:

So this is happening, and for once Tories are upset about the right-wing press targeting people.

learnincurve posted:

I watched the first debate for several hours, and they all came across at the voice of reason before all the other Tories came out of the bar and voted without taking a blind bit of notice of their surprisingly moderate and reasonable requests that basically boiled down to “we need more information”, while the other Tories in the debate came across as horrific bullying boomer lunatic cunts.

feedmegin posted:

You might want to ease up on the 'you lot' there. Much like the Scots, plenty of Welsh people were involved in building the British Empire.

Saith posted:

If we as a nation had received the benefits of empire, I might be inclined to agree with you. Our iron built the machine, our coal powered it and our blood was (presumably) offered up in various satanic rituals to keep it going because gently caress Wales, and lo and behold, with everything that could potentially be of value having been stripped away from us, we're the poorest country region in Europe.

But the (English) iron lords had it alright, so I guess I can't complain.

It's strange how this thread is generally so anti-imperialism until it comes to the treatment of the 'Home Countries'.

Saith posted:

If we as a nation had received the benefits of empire, I might be inclined to agree with you. Our iron built the machine, our coal powered it and our blood was (presumably) offered up in various satanic rituals to keep it going because gently caress Wales, and lo and behold, with everything that could potentially be of value having been stripped away from us, we're the poorest country region in Europe.

But the (English) iron lords had it alright, so I guess I can't complain.

It's strange how this thread is generally so anti-imperialism until it comes to the treatment of the 'Home Countries'.

Jose posted:

lol

https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/930472875596926976

Jose posted:

i'm really curious how the insane hard brexiters plan on spinning it if we end up on WTO rules and tons of businesses go bust and people suddenly can't afford food

Guavanaut posted:

lmao, France produces in 4 days what Britain takes 5 to do, and then has a few days off. Has he considered that maybe they're on to something?

Josef bugman posted:

I just want a house. Not even a big one or an especially nice one, just a little plot of somewhere that I can have and look after and fill with things I quite like.

I am so tired of moving every year, of not being able to "save up" for things because I know I will just have to put it all in a big sack and move with it again. I'm tired of working 9-5 and seeing all my money vanish on rent and feeling so tired, I'm tired of just having to go into work and try and make people feel better about visiting somewhere historic when they are cutting our breaks and not letting us sit down. It's hard to be positive when there appears to be nothing to be positive about.

Prince John posted:

Hey dude. I didn't see any other replies, so just wanted to chuck a few good wishes in your direction. Try not to let them grind you down.

Saith posted:

If we as a nation had received the benefits of empire, I might be inclined to agree with you. Our iron built the machine, our coal powered it and our blood was (presumably) offered up in various satanic rituals to keep it going because gently caress Wales, and lo and behold, with everything that could potentially be of value having been stripped away from us, we're the poorest country region in Europe.

But the (English) iron lords had it alright, so I guess I can't complain.

It's strange how this thread is generally so anti-imperialism until it comes to the treatment of the 'Home Countries'.

Saith posted:

If we as a nation had received the benefits of empire, I might be inclined to agree with you. Our iron built the machine, our coal powered it and our blood was (presumably) offered up in various satanic rituals to keep it going because gently caress Wales, and lo and behold, with everything that could potentially be of value having been stripped away from us, we're the poorest country region in Europe.

Prince John posted:

One of these days I need to pick up that awesome analysis in the Ragged Trousered Philanthropists involving wages and capital as a percentage of GDP over time and extend it into the modern age. People really struggle to grasp 'working less' as a viable option to aim for; it drives me nuts. I think the connection between huge productivity gains since the 70s and stagnating real wages is just too remote for people to get worked up about.

Pissflaps posted:

Sorry are you talking about Wales or Northern England?

OwlFancier posted:

I struggle to see the point in cheese that isn't black label extra strong. I mean I'll eat the bland stuff but I feel depressed while doing it.

Yes I am a cheese extremist and if the goverment wants to send cheese PREVENT over to re-educate me into liking red leicester then they're welcome to try but I have a past its use by date camembert and a wedge of roqueforte that says they can't take me alive!

Saith posted:

If we as a nation had received the benefits of empire, I might be inclined to agree with you. Our iron built the machine, our coal powered it and our blood was (presumably) offered up in various satanic rituals to keep it going because gently caress Wales, and lo and behold, with everything that could potentially be of value having been stripped away from us, we're the poorest country region in Europe.

But the (English) iron lords had it alright, so I guess I can't complain.

It's strange how this thread is generally so anti-imperialism until it comes to the treatment of the 'Home Countries'.

Saith posted:

I hope y'all know that if we were discussing race rather than nationality, Richard Spencer would be on your side.

Saith posted:

I hope y'all know that if we were discussing race rather than nationality, Richard Spencer would be on your side.

Rarity posted:

Reminder that Wales voted to leave the EU despite receiving £680 million of EU subsidies

Pissflaps posted:

It seems odd to me to describe abuses of the poor of Wales and lay the blame on the poor of England before rich Welsh people but that’s nationalism for you.

Saith posted:

If we as a nation had received the benefits of empire, I might be inclined to agree with you. Our iron built the machine, our coal powered it and our blood was (presumably) offered up in various satanic rituals to keep it going because gently caress Wales, and lo and behold, with everything that could potentially be of value having been stripped away from us, we're the poorest country region in Europe.

But the (English) iron lords had it alright, so I guess I can't complain.

It's strange how this thread is generally so anti-imperialism until it comes to the treatment of the 'Home Countries'.

Pissflaps posted:

Tell me why that slightly thicker line on a map preserved by dint of history 700 years ago makes people on one side the victim and the other the perpetrator.

TomViolence posted:

The attitude this implies rankles me a bit, to be honest. The british working class as a whole has a pretty damning record of voting against its own interests, that doesn't justify the ratfucking they're getting, have gotten and will be getting. Folk have been gaslit and manipulated into their current situation through decades of misinformation and pandering to their most base and spiteful impulses. If we're just going to write them off because they've got poor access to good information or even just the skills they'd need to decode it, what are we even for?

baka kaba posted:

I ain't no cheese expert, but there's a Red Leicester called Red Fox that I think Lidl or Aldi carries, and it's real good. It's nothing like the usual homogenous supermarket stuff, it's strong and crumbly like mature cheddar only with its own taste going on. Leicester can finally stand up and be proud

Rarity posted:

I... I agree with Pissflaps.

Am I the bad guy?

nopantsjack posted:

as far as i know (which is not a lot because we are taught NOTHING of the rUK in school) since the industrial revolution all the state did to the welsh was render them powerless and steal all their poo poo, which is not something an english commoner at the time would be immune from either
it'd be worse to be welsh but much worse to be irish or bengali

sebzilla posted:

But yeah, Red Fox is probably not Leicester-based.