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Last Chance posted:yeah wtf. someone created a "little app" to reverse the scrolling? they must have felt dumb when they found the "Scroll Direction" checkbox in the mouse/trackpad settings.
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Endless Mike posted:tbf i downloaded an app that let me have natural scrolling on the touchpad but regular scrolling on a mouse wheel, since it's extremely unnatural to do the mouse that way, and as far as i can tell, macos doesn't let you have separate settings which is dumb what app? logitech options does it for my mx master but only for that mouse, doesn't work for other mice
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carry on then posted:you still truly, genuinely believe they max out at 8 gigs, huh 16gb, doesn't matter
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carry on then posted:what app? logitech options does it for my mx master but only for that mouse, doesn't work for other mice i don't remember waht it's called since it stopped working in like sierra
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the difference between normal scrolling and "natural" scrolling is the difference between feeling like you are moving the viewport around and moving the Content around. the latter obviously makes much more sense on a touchscreen and arguably on a mac if you are the sort of "Creative" that apple wants buying their macs and you are primarily just scrolling around your facebook feed. of course this breaks down when you consider that the primary purpose of a trackpad (moving the mouse pointer) is fundamentally a part of the viewport and not of the Content but i guess our old man brains are not plastic enough to effortlessly handle this dichotomy
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Perplx posted:they want to but intel still doesn't have a chip that supports lpddr4, they could use regular ddr4 but that would reduce their best in the industry 30 days standby to one week and more people would complain about that then the lack of 32GB of ram intel didn't implement support for lpddr4 or more than 16GB of lpddr3 because those are smartphone/tablet memory formats intended for SoC integration and nobody but apple builds their "performance" laptops like a smartphone. why waste the die space and engineering time on redesigning the i5 and i7 memory controller to support an esoteric ram type that some tiny sliver of less than 10% of a subsection of your entire market will ever consider using? intel also has had lpddr4 supporting SoC x86 systems since September of last year.
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Nov 15, 2017 18:49
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Linguica posted:the difference between normal scrolling and "natural" scrolling is the difference between feeling like you are moving the viewport around and moving the Content around. the latter obviously makes much more sense on a touchscreen and arguably on a mac if you are the sort of "Creative" that apple wants buying their macs and you are primarily just scrolling around your facebook feed. of course this breaks down when you consider that the primary purpose of a trackpad (moving the mouse pointer) is fundamentally a part of the viewport and not of the Content but i guess our old man brains are not plastic enough to effortlessly handle this dichotomy the mouse pointer isn't content or viewport, its a proxy for your finger, the thing humans instinctively use for pointing at things. the relationship between how the touchpad moves the cursor and the content is entirely consistent with this. slide your finger upwards irl while it's pressed against a piece of paper and the contents of the paper scroll downward.
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Nov 15, 2017 19:39
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Linguica posted:the difference between normal scrolling and "natural" scrolling is the difference between feeling like you are moving the viewport around and moving the Content around. the latter obviously makes much more sense on a touchscreen and arguably on a mac if you are the sort of "Creative" that apple wants buying their macs and you are primarily just scrolling around your facebook feed. of course this breaks down when you consider that the primary purpose of a trackpad (moving the mouse pointer) is fundamentally a part of the viewport and not of the Content but i guess our old man brains are not plastic enough to effortlessly handle this dichotomy Also "down" on a scroll-wheel still scrolls down - why make "down" on the touchpad scroll up?
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Nov 15, 2017 19:41
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Endless Mike posted:there's been a setting since literally the day they launched it. woops haha I was thinking of when I had to invert scrolling on a 10.6 machine. my bad Last Chance posted:yeah wtf. someone created a "little app" to reverse the scrolling? they must have felt dumb when they found the "Scroll Direction" checkbox in the mouse/trackpad settings. yeah see above. it was to add a feature to old models so
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Nov 15, 2017 19:41
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speaking of, i miss the old powerbook and early mbp matte screens 
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Endless Mike posted:i don't remember waht it's called since it stopped working in like sierra if it was scroll reverser (which was what i was thinking of) its working now and supports toggling scroll direction for mouse trackpad and tablet for both axes which is something new to me
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Agile Vector posted:speaking of, i miss the old powerbook and early mbp matte screens I'd buy a 12" powerbook with updated internals. It'd be so compact and chubby 
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:I'd buy a 12" powerbook with updated internals. It'd be so compact and chubby is that the white plastic mac with round corners ?
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cinci zoo sniper posted:is that the white plastic mac with round corners ? no, they were metal
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Nov 15, 2017 21:45
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just used applepay online for the first time, gently caress that owned.
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:I'd buy a 12" powerbook with updated internals. It'd be so compact and chubby i still look at them used sometimes and think about getting one, theyre so dang neat looking! retrofitting would be a pain but a very fun project just to have a cool modern version
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:just used applepay online for the first time, gently caress that owned. yeah it's real good
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Nov 15, 2017 22:02
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natural scrolling rules. ye olde scrolling was from the days before mouse wheels. if you put your mouse on the screen, and you slide the mouse up, the cursor goes up with it, following the mouse motion. if you slide the mouse down the cursor goes down. but if you scroll the wheel up, the content moves down, opposite of the direction of your finger. natural scrolling fixes this and makes the motion on the screen analogous to the muscle motion, just like it is for the pointer.
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does iTunes not sell TV shows? I would like to buy some seasons and I can’t find where to search, it mostly shows movies. the Apple TV 4K music/iTunes/Apple Music interface is kind of a mess, I don’t know where to find most content. For instance some concerts are available to buy on iTunes but purely by chance I saw them for free on Apple Music
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Nov 16, 2017 02:42
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tv shows are available in some countries, probably just english-speaking ones, if not just na e: here you go https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204411
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Nov 16, 2017 02:44
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The Management posted:but if you scroll the wheel up, the content moves down, opposite of the direction of your finger. natural scrolling fixes this and makes the motion on the screen analogous to the muscle motion, just like it is for the pointer.
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Linguica posted:wrong. a scroll wheel is not like moving a mouse or touching a pane of glass. it is a literal wheel, one of the oldest human inventions and one we are all intimately familiar with. much like moving the mouse pointer around is as if you were moving the mouse itself over the viewport beneath it, imagine scrolling a wheel that is in contact with the viewport beneath it. as you scroll the wheel upwards the wheel pushes the viewport beneath it downwards, making your relative motion be to scroll up the document. owned. then why does natural scrolling feel so much better?
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Last Chance posted:then why does natural scrolling feel so much better?
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Agile Vector posted:speaking of, i miss the old powerbook and early mbp matte screens same
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seriously. old school scrolling = you're scrolling in the direction of the arrows on a vertical scrollbar ui element natural scrolling = you're pushing around the content as if you're touching it. if you're using a touch device like god's own magic mouse and using inertia, this makes more sense and feels great. content moves in the same direction as your finger: naturally. pretty simple
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basically people who like "natural" scrolling are like the babies who paw at magazine pages trying to get them to scroll because they don't know any better
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yes, the move to natural scrolling is actually a direct result of touch screens and other touch devices becoming very popular. i don't think it would have made as much sense in a world where good capacitive touch screens didn't exist.
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"natural" scrolling: tragic mac fad
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ufarn posted:tv shows are available in some countries, probably just english-speaking ones, if not just na consarn it
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I think we can all agree that its not like scrolling was any harder before apple just changed it for no goladdam reason and made this whole bullshit situation to personally annoy me tim has brought us to this point
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i ordered a 15" which im not really thrilled about but you cant get a quad core in the 13" but also you cant get the 15" without the stupid touch bar bullshit a land of contrasts
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bump_fn posted:i ordered a 15" which im not really thrilled about but you cant get a quad core in the 13" but also you cant get the 15" without the stupid touch bar bullshit zero kink shaming here in the 'pos 
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wired apple extended keyboard has been discontinued
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graph posted:wired apple extended keyboard has been discontinued do they have a wireless extended
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bump_fn posted:do they have a wireless extended they have a magic keyboard with number pad
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Someone argued me for 12 hours after I told them to update their iPhone when they had the autoreplace bug. This includes getting angry enough for them to wake up at 4am and write a rambling wall of text comparing me to Matthew Bevin or something. I saw another guy as late as last night still postin with that dumb bug. How can you be so unaware. moron izzard fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Nov 16, 2017 |
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didn't you know? every time you update your iphone it become half as fast as the previous update. enough updates and you won't be able to use it at all which is how crapple forces you to buy a new phone. i saw this on fox news so it must be true
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Nov 16, 2017 15:18
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why doesn't the phone "just work?"
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Endless Mike posted:didn't you know? every time you update your iphone it become half as fast as the previous update. enough updates and you won't be able to use it at all which is how crapple forces you to buy a new phone. i saw this on fox news so it must be true i work with three people still running ios 9 on 6S series devices. the other devices im aware of are a blackberry passport and some sony androids. these are all it professionals
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all black stevephone5 ios9 crew
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