SCtrumpHaters posted:

Using volunteers to replace actual employees is actually a pretty big no no for corporations. But if challenged they'll just say its a special early access bonus for high end players.

Jobbo_Fett posted:

YOU DIDN'T SPAWN THE RIGHT SHIP?! WELL WE'RE GONNA RUB YOUR NOSE IN YOUR PISS-STAINED MESS!


Take that, person who's given us money!

Sarsapariller posted:

To be fair, spawning the wrong ship is probably causing their entire server to collapse and need to be rebooted which takes 15+ minutes. A few dipshits could ruin your whole day of testing.

Which is why you don't crowdsource your loving testing.

The Titanic posted:

*leaps for her credit card and tries to swipe it against this post in futile effort of getting in on the ground floor*

Mirificus posted:

Sarsapariller posted:

Thank you Citizen. Can I interest you in a luxury spaceship?


You can tell it's luxury because of the palm trees. Deuce Citizen will have real-time coconut shucking. Please keep in mind that none of this is real right now, but don't let that stop you- in the event that it does release, there will probably be all kinds of coconut related gameplay. I can't think of any fun applications for coconuts, so please dream some up and write me thousands of pages of stupid garbage. I guarantee that each and every idea will eventually be made just as real as Deuce Citizen itself.

fargom posted:

God drat that screencap of their employees yelling at avocado testers is cringeworthy. I mean gently caress you've had 5 years, why don't you have an automated solution for "getting x clients in game and have them do a specific thing so we can measure performance." The studio has eleventy billion dollars in free money, enough to produce multiple dumb web shows, but they can't hire a single technical test / automation capable QA guy to bang out some basic poo poo?

I mean this is legit embarrassing, even if you ignore the whole "free QA nothing to see here folks these aren't employees" side of this, the actual work they are having them do is not the qualitative type testing you would expect it's just "stand here move here generate data for us." Jesus christ now I want to go up to santa monica and interview for a QA spot just to kinda laugh about it and see just how little the interviewer knows about modern QA for game companies in TYOOL 2017.

I half expect to see loving VHS tapes and VCR's on desks, like crobbers set them up exactly as he remembers from the old days.

VictorianQueerLit posted:

It might be the developer or that the people that like Star Wars are more prone to get buttmad about videogames but an important difference between the two is that one game actually exists. You can go start playing it and be presented with it's bullshit which people are rightly mad about.

"Star Citizen" exists in the realm of the imagination right now. You can't get pissed off at how bullshit it's pay 2 win mechanics are because you can't state with 100% certainty what the specifics of it's mechanics actually even will be. Even though they are obviously bullshit you can technically argue they might not be bullshit. That technicality is all they need.

Like LTI. Nobody even knows how that works but we know backers have paid tens of millions of dollars for the concept. It's pay2win bullshit but backers live in that little area of the brain that makes you go "Well we don't know for certain it will be bullshit, and here is all of the ways it could not be bullshit." They won't get angry because they don't want to which is a luxury of the state of the product and it having no firm definition of anything at any level.

All of that falls apart when there is a game though.

Deki posted:

Everything that's pissing people off about Battlefront, Star citizen does. Is it really just because it's EA that people are freaking out about Battlefront?

Mirificus posted:

Sarsapariller posted:

Do Evocati have access to all the ships?

Because it'd be even better if they got kickbanned from the QA group for testing the ships that they personally paid hundreds of dollars for.

Daztek posted:

Evocati testing going well!

They don't bother emailing you about the tests/procedures so if you're not on the Spectrum 24/7 you might get banned

Daztek posted:

Evocati testing going well!

They don't bother emailing you about the tests/procedures so if you're not on the Spectrum 24/7 you might get banned

XK posted:

Not only was Ben in his mid 20s when he did a lot of the things on his website, he literally tried to blame attempting to be a cool kid like the people on SomethingAwful for his behavior, yet the site had equally representative behavior which predated the existence of SomethingAwful.

Also, if I remember correctly, he had publicly linked his website 6 months before any Goon found it. It was only when he publicly linked its existence a second time that somebody here found it.

We were literally digging for it so hard, he had to broadcast its existence twice before we saw it.

SCtrumpHaters posted:

Using volunteers to replace actual employees is actually a pretty big no no for corporations. But if challenged they'll just say its a special early access bonus for high end players.

XK posted:

Yeah, it's two reasons.

One, there are several thousand people emotionally invested in Star Citizen. There are several hundred thousand people wanting to play a Star Wars game.

Second, you are exactly right, nothing exists yet, so nobody can hard core nail down what Star Citizen's paid economy really is.

Same is the answer to this:


There's just way more people interested in an EA Star Wars game. The Star Citizen consumer base is so tiny that nobody outside really notices it.

Pantsbird posted:

Can't even sleep without missing something.

XK posted:

fargom posted:

Likely they either have their own accounts, and are just being asked not to spawn a ship outside of the test parameters, or they have dev command line access and can just pop any ship into the gameworld at any time. Both allow testers to gently caress up the test environment/crash the game server/muddy the test data. This is just one reason why this type of testing should be automated.

XK posted:

Based on the deleted video, they have the same access as normal. They choose a ship from a menu on the Port Olisar computer terminal. Then the computer literally gives them the wrong ship. lol

Jobbo_Fett posted:

If you can't trust the members of your super secret club of exclusivity, who the gently caress can you trust?

stingtwo posted:

going through a game logs dump file just to see who spawned what at what time because your game code is so loving broken your servers crash and you cannot disable the spawn system on your end.

Jobbo_Fett posted:

If you can't trust the members of your super secret club of exclusivity, who the gently caress can you trust?

Abuminable posted:

That's neat... so they might get banned from the evocati for spawning a blacklisted ship they didn't even request

DapperDon posted:

In the history of video games, has there ever been a project that has such an authoritative iron fist and thirst for vindictive revenge, punishment, cruelty, and humiliation as this? Because for the life of me I thought these things were SUPPOSED to be fun.

Sarsapariller posted:

To be fair, spawning the wrong ship is probably causing their entire server to collapse and need to be rebooted which takes 15+ minutes. A few dipshits could ruin your whole day of testing.

Which is why you don't crowdsource your loving testing.

A Neurotic Corncob posted:

An evocati goon sent me this on his carrier pigeon:

We have access to all the ships in etf but we literally had to fight for it, because cig wanted players to play like they only had access to their paid ships. Which is hilarious if you consider that half the ships in the game have horrendous bugs that need desperate focus testing. Pointing this out was the argument that ultimately persuaded CIG to give us access to all of them.