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punk rebel ecks posted:I guess I have to rewatch the scene. Makes sense. Everybody is smacked by Dad.
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Waffleopolis posted:Soo....what are the chances season 3's monster has some correlation to a beholder? Look out guys, it's a flumph!
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Nov 16, 2017 06:17
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When he isn't abusing children Brenner makes a mean tuna sandwich.
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Nov 16, 2017 06:43
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Straight White Shark posted:Yes, his wife is quivering and trembling in mortal terror of his strong good parenting skills. Yeah holy poo poo the construction of that scene is incredible. It's especially strong when you remember back to Max's fear of becoming like Billy. punk rebel ecks posted:Wait, is the wife abused by the father too? I don't think so. Not yet. Billy's dad still needs to prove to his new wife and family that he loves them. But once familiarity sets in, once little patterns start irritating him, the targets of his abuse are going to slowly shift from Billy alone, to the other members of the new family.
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Nov 16, 2017 06:51
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Yea, pretty sure she is. It looks like she is jerking her face like in sympathy with getting smacked around.
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Nov 16, 2017 06:55
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Yeah I rewatched the scene. I can definitely see him being an abuser.
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Nov 16, 2017 08:01
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I don't think everyone hates season two, it was pretty good for a second season. It just kind of hosed up and stumbled with episode 7. Every other nail in the board was flush, episode 7 wasn't. So it got hammered
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I wasn't disappointed by season 2 and thought it was better than the first. I need to finish rewatching season 1, might rewatch season 2, then get my thoughts in order though.
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Nov 16, 2017 08:52
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You know Billy's dad is a bad guy because he said "human being" and smacked him. As bad as Billy was he at least dog whistled his bigotry and didn't physically hurt Max because he's not ready to take that final step, but his dad just straight up went there. Bad guy. But he probably loves Billy. 
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tbh i think an aboleth would be a better metaphor for the shadow monster than a mind flayer
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zeal posted:tbh i think an aboleth would be a better metaphor for the shadow monster than a mind flayer That is a good point, but did they exist in '84?
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zeal posted:tbh i think an aboleth would be a better metaphor for the shadow monster than a mind flayer Yeah, the only mind flayer in the show is Eleven.
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Nov 16, 2017 18:07
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Actually 8 is a better example of a mind flayer than 11.
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Nov 16, 2017 18:11
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Unless you know something we don't, it's the best metaphor we have for understanding whatever the hell this is!
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Nov 16, 2017 18:50
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I'd of called it "Geoff." Geoff is a good name for a monster.
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Just got caught up, was a good show. I'm ambivalent about Ep. 7 because it was an important character moment for Eleven and it did some good world building, but its placement kneecapped all of the suspense built up in the previous episode. I would have much rather seen it earlier on, with Eleven's vision of everyone in trouble used as a way to ratchet up the tension. Hitchcock's old "show the audience the bomb" thing. Also, I love Steve. He has less reason to be invested than any of the other characters, but he just keeps on chipping in and giving a poo poo. You go Steve.
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Iron Crowned posted:That is a good point, but did they exist in '84? according to wikipedia, they were introduced in a module that was released in '81
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Former Human posted:When he isn't abusing children Brenner makes a mean tuna sandwich. I can't even imagine why MBB would think Brenner was a good guy.
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King Vidiot posted:I can't even imagine why MBB would think Brenner was a good guy. Honestly, a really warm, caring guy who also just happens to constantly torture his adopted daughter for science/glory sounds like an interesting premise.
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Since season 2 is 1984 and they had the Ghostbusters references, any bets on 1985 using Back to the Future?
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Former Human posted:Since season 2 is 1984 and they had the Ghostbusters references, any bets on 1985 using Back to the Future? They won't like it because they didn't grow up in the 50's.
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Solice Kirsk posted:They won't like it because they didn't grow up in the 50's. But Time Travel! Wait, what if season 3 revolves around time travel!?
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Solice Kirsk posted:They won't like it because they didn't grow up in the 50's. Neither did I and I love BttF, and did when it came out even.
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Solice Kirsk posted:They won't like it because they didn't grow up in the 50's. Make like a tree and get outta here.
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Former Human posted:Since season 2 is 1984 and they had the Ghostbusters references, any bets on 1985 using Back to the Future? I'm still thinking they have to mention the Goonies unless they think that'd be too on the nose. That movie was absolutely massive with kids in the 80's.
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King Vidiot posted:I'm still thinking they have to mention the Goonies unless they think that'd be too on the nose. That movie was absolutely massive with kids in the 80's. The kids will be really into Monster Squad and keep trying to explain why it’s the better of the two.
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business hammocks posted:The kids will be really into Monster Squad and keep trying to explain why it’s the better of the two. I actually looked up when Monster Squad came out when I watched S2, and it wasn't until 1986. In season 4, I hope Deputy Steve kicks a demogorgon in the nards. I'm sure S3 three will have some zany subplot where Billy becomes aware of the Upside Down stuff and is forced to team up with Lucas.
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Junkfist posted:Lab Director Steve Harrington Little do we know, that's actually what his dad's business is.
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Solice Kirsk posted:They won't like it because they didn't grow up in the 50's. They'll complain that it was overloaded with 50s references.
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So what 80s thing looks like the Stranger Things title but isn't one of the Stephen King novel covers it's supposed to be based on? Coincidence? Quite possibly. But I love it all the same.
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Fister Roboto posted:They'll complain that it was overloaded with 50s references. “So much licensed music! God, oh it’s ‘Mr. Sandman’ like it’s the 50s. We get it!”
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Nov 19, 2017 06:22
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Was Biff a racist? I see no evidence of that.
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You misspelled rapist.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Was Biff a racist? I see no evidence of that. His gang was, so I wouldn't be surprised if he was
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Former Human posted:You misspelled rapist. He's a racist rapist.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:He's a racist rapist. A rapcist, if you will.
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And More posted:Honestly, a really warm, caring guy who also just happens to constantly torture his adopted daughter for science/glory sounds like an interesting premise. adopted? i was under the impression brenner was the one who knocked up el's mom during her time with mk ultra
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Something they haven't really touched upon in this show is the Conservative "Satanic Panic" craze in the 80s where everything dark or weird or offbeat was seen by society as "in league with Satan". It's a surprising omission for such a dark show set in that specific time. D&D in particular was accused of it all the time, and the earliest scenes in the show were the boys playing it - only after which the things they're talking about manifested in reality. Of course it's explained via the lab experiments going too far, but I wonder if there's also an intentional tongue-in-cheek undertone of the show that the kids' "Satanic D&D playing" caused a portal to Hell to open and now evil monsters are pouring out and/or possessing children. Has that idea ever been addressed by the showrunners? I'm almost surprised there isn't a religious character addressing that angle in the show (and probably played by Beth Grant).
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