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Five different Dodgers received MVP votes so we know who the real winners are here 
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Nov 17, 2017 01:17
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Ehhhh I wouldn't go that far, just certain posters can be counted on to meltdown easily
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Nov 17, 2017 01:17
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Really loving the "This is a WS narrative win for Houston" and "This is a narrative win for Altuve" hot takes, as if Harvey magically propelled the team to a World Series win after playing under .500 all season. 
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Nov 17, 2017 01:18
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Sydin posted:It was a pretty terrible five weeks though. "Make Kyle Schwarber look like an all-star" terrible. Dude also had a 30.7% strikeout rate and lead all of baseball in strikeouts which is uh... not good. Like I get it he javelined a lot of dogs but he's a significantly less impressive batter than Altuve is. 173 wRC+, 8.2 fWAR but OK. Kirios posted:Yankee fans just can't be happy with him winning RoY (and deservedly so). No, they have to poo poo on Altuve winning the award too. I don't think anybody's making GBS threads on Altuve?
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Nov 17, 2017 01:18
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Who cares if Judge has better hitting stats? He's a corner outfielder. Altuve put up stellar numbers playing second. No-brainer. Congrats Altuve and Astros fans.
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Nov 17, 2017 01:18
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Surprised at the amount of Yankee tears over this. You all didn't really think Judge was going to win did you????
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Nov 17, 2017 01:18
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MrMidnight posted:Surprised at the amount of Yankee tears over this. You all didn't really think Judge was going to win did you???? I loving thought he was
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Nov 17, 2017 01:19
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I thought he was too but once again my pessimism has been proven unfounded this year.
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Nov 17, 2017 01:19
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Baseball arguments are a waste of time. Either you're looking at facts or you're talking yourself into whatever your original opinion was. MrMidnight posted:Surprised at the amount of Yankee tears over this. You all didn't really think Judge was going to win did you???? No. Undeserving players win awards all the time. Says Cy Young winner Rick Porcello.
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Nov 17, 2017 01:20
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Intruder posted:I loving thought he was He had the MVP at the all Star break. After that he played like poo poo for a month and lost it. ROY and try for the MVP next year.
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Nov 17, 2017 01:20
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mcmagic posted:Baseball arguments are a waste of time. Either you're looking at facts or you're talking yourself into whatever your original opinion was. 
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Nov 17, 2017 01:20
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I didn't think Judge was gonna win after he slumped hard after the break. but man the hot takes about how Judge isn't actually that good are amazing in here
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Nov 17, 2017 01:21
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Mr. Fix It posted:Who cares if Judge has better hitting stats? He's a corner outfielder. Altuve put up stellar numbers playing second. No-brainer. Congrats Altuve and Astros fans. Also, Judge finished better in most of the stats that adjust for positional value.
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Nov 17, 2017 01:21
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mcmagic posted:No. Undeserving players win awards all the time. Says Cy Young winner Rick Porcello.  Altuve is not undeserving of this MVP award. Judge would not have been either, had he prevailed. They're both insanely good at baseball and pretty fun to watch for different reasons. Your boy got beat, and that's ok.
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Nov 17, 2017 01:22
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bawfuls posted:
Fine. LESS deserving players.
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Nov 17, 2017 01:22
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MrMidnight posted:He had the MVP at the all Star break. After that he played like poo poo for a month and lost it. ROY and try for the MVP next year. Saying the August slump rightfully cost him the award is saying it's a narrative award, not a stats one. Again, I think Altuve was absolutely deserving and I'm not mad he won (well I mean, beyond the obvious bit about wanting my guy to win), but the idea that he was clearly the MVP isn't borne out by the numbers.
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Nov 17, 2017 01:23
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Carlosologist posted:I didn't think Judge was gonna win after he slumped hard after the break. but man the hot takes about how Judge isn't actually that good are amazing in here He is definitely good. I read articles that his stats in clutch situations were poor compared to Altuve which may have swayed voters. He deserved more 1st place votes for sure though.
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Nov 17, 2017 01:23
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Byron Buxton got MVP votes 
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Nov 17, 2017 01:23
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Carlosologist posted:I didn't think Judge was gonna win after he slumped hard after the break. but man the hot takes about how Judge isn't actually that good are amazing in here Judge is obviously good but I also hope he's been figured out and fades into the obscurity he was destined for before the 2017 season started god bless
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Nov 17, 2017 01:23
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Intruder posted:Judge is obviously good but I also hope he's been figured out and fades into the obscurity he was destined for before the 2017 season started god bless 2018 MVP 
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Nov 17, 2017 01:24
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MrMidnight posted:He is definitely good. I read articles that his stats in clutch situations were poor compared to Altuve which may have swayed voters. That loving Fangraphs clutch stat is so misused and bad  IcePhoenix posted:Byron Buxton got MVP votes I like a lot of the downballot AL MVP votes, they're all very (Sir Didi, Khris Davis, etc.)
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Nov 17, 2017 01:24
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mcmagic posted:Fine. LESS deserving players.
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Nov 17, 2017 01:25
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Carlosologist posted:I didn't think Judge was gonna win after he slumped hard after the break. but man the hot takes about how Judge isn't actually that good are amazing in here I never said he wasn't a good player, I'm saying a player who excels at almost everything is a better choice for MVP than someone who is by and large a one-trick pony, even if that trick is freakishly impressive.
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Nov 17, 2017 01:25
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Carlosologist posted:2018 MVP
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Nov 17, 2017 01:26
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IcePhoenix posted:Byron Buxton got MVP votes If he can even be a mediocre offensive player he's going to be a MVP frontrunner every year. His defense is other worldly. To me Correa is the clear #1 in that draft in Buxton is the clear #2. Both teams got their picks right. bawfuls posted:Trout will stay healthy and put up 11 WAR, shame on everyone who slept on the king. Trout's the rightful king in the AL which is why I'm glad Altuve got his award this year. He probably won't have another chance like this.
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Nov 17, 2017 01:26
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MrMidnight posted:He is definitely good. I read articles that his stats in clutch situations were poor compared to Altuve which may have swayed voters. Close and late Altuve: .441/.529/.661 Judge: .227/.380/.380 Tie game Altuve: .383/.432/.600 Judge: .231/.389/.477 bawfuls posted:Trout will stay healthy and put up 11 WAR, shame on everyone who slept on the king. Angels trade for Stanton, sign Otani, we all just give up
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Nov 17, 2017 01:27
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Infidel Castro posted:I never said he wasn't a good player, I'm saying a player who excels at almost everything is a better choice for MVP than someone who is by and large a one-trick pony, even if that trick is freakishly impressive. The statement that Judge is a one trick poney is completely ridiculous and unfactual.
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Nov 17, 2017 01:27
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Infidel Castro posted:I never said he wasn't a good player, I'm saying a player who excels at almost everything is a better choice for MVP than someone who is by and large a one-trick pony, even if that trick is freakishly impressive. That's fine to say, but it's a factually incorrect characterization of Judge as a player. Intruder posted:Close and late Gimme just RISP.
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Nov 17, 2017 01:27
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Yes Aaron .227/.380/.380 in the clutch Judge is totally deserving of MVP mcmagic what was I thinking
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Nov 17, 2017 01:28
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If we're seriously talking about "clutch" as MVP-deciding then I'm gonna just talk about how Judge had more RBIs I guess. Goodness people.
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Nov 17, 2017 01:29
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Infidel Castro posted:I never said he wasn't a good player, I'm saying a player who excels at almost everything is a better choice for MVP than someone who is by and large a one-trick pony, even if that trick is freakishly impressive. But enough about Stanton's MVP...
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Nov 17, 2017 01:29
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Inspector_666 posted:If we're seriously talking about "clutch" as MVP-deciding then I'm gonna just talk about how Judge had more RBIs I guess. Goodness people. It's a joke dude relax
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Nov 17, 2017 01:30
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Tiny MVP of my heart. 
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Nov 17, 2017 01:32
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Inspector_666 posted:Gimme just RISP. Both good, Judge with the edge in slugging Altuve with the edge in BA and slight edge in OBP Altuve: .303/.392/.439 Judge: .262/.390/.624
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Nov 17, 2017 01:32
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Kirios posted:It's a joke dude relax  (Sorry I shouldn't post here and on the EW Facebook group and Twitter at the same time, too many dummies in the latter two places.)
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Nov 17, 2017 01:32
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Kirios posted:Trout's the rightful king in the AL which is why I'm glad Altuve got his award this year. He probably won't have another chance like this. Trout's dominance will (I hope) rise to the top in the end when he's sitting on a pile of MVP awards. Altuve is a remarkable and special player who should be remembered decades from now, and having an MVP award helps solidify his legacy.
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Nov 17, 2017 01:32
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MLB N/V Offseason: Yankees fans melting down ITT
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Nov 17, 2017 01:33
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Kirios posted:It's a joke dude relax Adam Jones had the highest BA with RISP in the AL this season. I guess he's the MVP then. Intruder posted:Both good, Judge with the edge in slugging Altuve with the edge in BA and slight edge in OBP
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Nov 17, 2017 01:33
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Infidel Castro posted:I never said he wasn't a good player, I'm saying a player who excels at almost everything is a better choice for MVP than someone who is by and large a one-trick pony, even if that trick is freakishly impressive. I mean...  if Judge was a one trick pony then he would just be pulling the ball all the time? he doesn't get enough credit for being able to hit the ball the other way I think
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Nov 17, 2017 01:34
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goodness can you all please move on
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