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Intruder posted:This is adorable It really was adorable. That "drama"* surrounding him not making it to the parade was SOOOO DUMB. *I really only knew of it from the one super angry dude in the Effectively Wild fb group. Oh boy was he upset.
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Niwrad posted:Or the league realized they didn't want to punish a major market as severely as a small one. 6 of the players the Braves lost alone were in order to sign Puasan (who's currently 15) next offseason. Its really not much different of a punishment than what Boston got. They lost every prospect MLB proved was involved in packaging. The punishment also extended longer because the Braves were already hard capped for the next two seasons. Limiting their IFA bonus money didn't really change much in those two seasons.
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Intruder posted:In hindsight it's nuts that Verlander went unclaimed on the waiver wire How much of JV's contract did they Tigers end up agreeing to pay? Could it be that teams are starting to get wary about having players with huge AAVs on long term contracts? Nah j/k, keep loading that dump truck with gold bars for Harper's free agency
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Comptroll The Forums posted:How much of JV's contract did they Tigers end up agreeing to pay? Could it be that teams are starting to get wary about having players with huge AAVs on long term contracts? Tigers pay $8MM of his contract.
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It still floors me that Coppollela was banned from baseball. That's only happened like four times in the last 40 years (Rose, Howe, Steinbrenner, Jenkins) and 3 of the 4 were able to get reinstated?
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tadashi posted:It still floors me that Coppollela was banned from baseball. That's only happened like four times in the last 40 years (Rose, Howe, Steinbrenner, Jenkins) and 3 of the 4 were able to get reinstated? Pete Rose is totally not salty. Totally not. (Coppellela will likely get reinstated sometime, and Rose will cry some more)
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tadashi posted:It still floors me that Coppollela was banned from baseball. That's only happened like four times in the last 40 years (Rose, Howe, Steinbrenner, Jenkins) and 3 of the 4 were able to get reinstated? Surely Correa (the Cardinals one not the Astros one) is also banned
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The Braves situation doesn't change much for Atlanta. Cobb county got poo poo on for paying for a stadium that no one went to, now we already have no players worth a poo poo coming in anyway. I miss the days of Ted Turner owning everything in Georgia.
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tadashi posted:It still floors me that Coppollela was banned from baseball. That's only happened like four times in the last 40 years (Rose, Howe, Steinbrenner, Jenkins) and 3 of the 4 were able to get reinstated? Intruder posted:Surely Correa (the Cardinals one not the Astros one) is also banned Correa (the Cards dude who broke into the Astro's computers) is banned. Jenrry Mejía is banned for PEDs, can seek reinstatement now but is banned until 2018 from pitching (which effectively means if reinstated, he'd start up again next year). Marge Schott, former Reds owner, got banned for being a nazi-loving bigot by Bud (his only ban), but was ultimately reinstated. Funny enough, Willie Mays and and Mickie Mantle were also banned (ultimately reinstated, natch), for being paid to greet people and sign autographs at a casino well after they retired. So since the tenure of Bowie Kuhn, ten people have been banned, six have been reinstated, two by independent arbiters (Howe and Jenkins).
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iospace posted:Correa (the Cards dude who broke into the Astro's computers) is banned. Jenrry Mejía is banned for PEDs, can seek reinstatement now but is banned until 2018 from pitching (which effectively means if reinstated, he'd start up again next year). Marge Schott, former Reds owner, got banned for being a nazi-loving bigot by Bud (his only ban), but was ultimately reinstated. The Mays/Mantle thing in hindsight comes off exceptionally stupid
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El Gallinero Gros posted:The Mays/Mantle thing in hindsight comes off exceptionally stupid Well yeah. I can understand why they went after Rose as he was betting on baseball WHILE manager. Mays and Mantle was after they had retired. Though given the amount of people who trip over themselves to defend similar policies for the NCAA, I don't even know anymore.
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tadashi posted:It still floors me that Coppollela was banned from baseball. That's only happened like four times in the last 40 years (Rose, Howe, Steinbrenner, Jenkins) and 3 of the 4 were able to get reinstated?
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divx posted:Didn't the Red Sox get caught doing the exact same thing with IFAs as the Braves? Cherington didn't even get fired so Coppy getting banned makes no sense unless they're not reporting a lot of poo poo. I think it's one part because it was the first time it happened, one part there's probably other stuff that hasn't come out yet.
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The Marlins just fired Rich Waltz their PBP guy. Man they are really desperate to shed salary. Wish the Cardinals would pick him up too to replace Danny Mac.
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ROCK THE HOUSE M.D. posted:The Marlins just fired Rich Waltz their PBP guy. Man they are really desperate to shed salary. Wish the Cardinals would pick him up too to replace Danny Mac.
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N: https://twitter.com/MikeBerardino/status/933159621266518016 V: Uh... he's all yours Twins.
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I’ve had other Yankees fans tell me that they’d rather have Justin Wilson than Chad Green because Chad Green’s numbers are inflated due to the fact that he doesn’t pitch in “high leverage” innings.
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ihatepants posted:I’ve had other Yankees fans tell me that they’d rather have Justin Wilson than Chad Green because Chad Green’s numbers are inflated due to the fact that he doesn’t pitch in “high leverage” innings. 1 for 1 swap sounds good to me
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Popete posted:Please get Justin Wilson off my team, thanks. Depends on what they offer. Isn't one of the reasons that Bosio got fired is that he hosed with JW's delivery? If they can figure that out in Spring Training I'm willing to give him another chance.
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ihatepants posted:I’ve had other Yankees fans tell me that they’d rather have Justin Wilson than Chad Green because Chad Green’s numbers are inflated due to the fact that he doesn’t pitch in “high leverage” innings. Who the gently caress. Who in the everloving gently caress. I do remember seeing people saying that the Yankees shouldn't have dealt Wilson because he had the same WAR as Chapman for one year, and was therefore the same quality pitcher. Then again, these were RAB commenters who also said the Didi trade was a shande because Greene was gonna be an ace. Inspector_666 fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Nov 22, 2017 |
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Inspector_666 posted:Who the gently caress. Who in the everloving gently caress. Obviously they mean relief ace 
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Intruder posted:Dang, was hoping it would be put off a year so the Astros would have a legit shot Dude is leaving $100 million + on the table by coming to America now rather than in a couple years. I dunno if a couple million in bonus money will matter that much to him. I think pretty much every team has a shot at Ohtani, although it'll be a harder sell for low payroll and rebuilding teams.
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Buy a baseball team and immediately go looking for more investors to raise cash, hrmmmm https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/933420319317958657
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Goon group buy in.
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Jeets I will eat the disgusting 70s cookbook recipe of your choice for a 10% stake
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bawfuls posted:Buy a baseball team and immediately go looking for more investors to raise cash, hrmmmm
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Good Dog posted:I assume there are players in the negatives, but Jeff Mathis is at 1.2 WAR for his 13 year career. Yuniesky Betancourt, 9 years, -2.5 WAR. He was worth -6.6 WAR over his last 6 seasons.
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Diabetic posted:The Braves situation doesn't change much for Atlanta. Cobb county got poo poo on for paying for a stadium that no one went to, now we already have no players worth a poo poo coming in anyway. I miss the days of Ted Turner owning everything in Georgia. Depends on the era of Turner. Ted Turner of the 1970s was wild, interfering in everything possible with the Braves and the Hawks. There were promotions everywhere (Headlock and Wedlock night, Baseball Olympics, etc.) and crazy campaigns like the billboard welcoming free agent Gary Matthews to Atlanta or the Channel 17 fiasco on Andy Messersmith's jersey. Turner of the 1980s was considered a cheapskate who let the teams fester. The Hawks were very good (that said the team was cheap enough at one point that they hired a delivery guy off the street, Charlie Criss, to play for them), but the Braves were a horrific mess from 1985-89, beginning to show signs of improvement in 1990. By the early 1990s, however, Turner had opened up the pocketbooks again and was willing to give Greg Maddux and Gary Sheffield boatloads of money. And thus he was Our Ted again. I miss Our Ted.
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RC and Moon Pie posted:Depends on the era of Turner. Don't forget the time he fired his manager, named himself manager on a whim, suited up, managed a game, and was promptly told by the commissioner to get his rear end back in the owners box.
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Diabetic posted:now we already have no players worth a poo poo coming in anyway. Well that's not true. They still have one of the best systems in baseball.
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That's a good ballot I'd go Johan over either Thome or Vizquel Also probably Walker over either of them and over Andruw Jones
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9 out of 10 correct votes is a good ballot. Vizquel was a good but not great player that played for forever. I wouldn't put up Hoffman before Wagner but I think they're both HoF relievers. Realistically there are like 15+ guys that should be in the hall on this ballot so the odds are as long as you fill out the full 10 you're going to have a good ballot.
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Don't make me hot take about letting steroid abusers up in here
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That's the second ballot I've seen this week with Vizquel over Mussina, which I just do not understand at all.Goodpancakes posted:Don't make me hot take about letting steroid abusers up in here
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Baseball's gonna need a Superfund to clean up the mess the BBWAA is creating
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