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Switching back and forth between hyper-scroll and regular scroll requires a little detent to be mechanically flipped back and forth inside the scrolling mechanism. I've owned three Logitech mice with that technology, and they all handled it differently: - Original MX Revolution (first mouse with that system), which had a regular button under the wheel, and a little solenoid or motor or something inside that flipped the detents in and out electronically. By default the wheel button was set to actuate the toggle -- so you'd click it and feel a separate deeper click as the mechanism moved -- but you could set it to a regular button instead. Because the wheel switched electronically, it could also do neat stuff like stay in click-mode most of the time, but detect a quick flick of the wheel and instantly disengage the detents and let the wheel spin until it slowed down, then re-engage. Fun and very effective but also really overly complex. - G9, which did not have the electronic system. In order to keep the mouse wheel button working nicely for  , the scroll toggle is a recessed button on the bottom of the mouse. You have to kind of dig at it with your finger and it makes a noticeable *thunk* as it swaps between modes. Not really useful on the fly so I just leave that mouse in detent mode and forget about it.- Original Anywhere MX, which replaces the wheel-click with the scroll toggle. Clicking the wheel is a large *thunk* like the G9's bottom button and there's no electronic button connected to it. Easy access to the toggle but you lose the wheel button. I remapped the button behind it to middle-click and honestly after about a week I quit noticing that it was weird, and I use that mouse for Solidworks (which uses middle-click to move the view) every day. It's like they figured out the way that gets you good toggling and an annoying button (Anywhere MX), good button and annoying toggling (G9), and both together but really expensive (Revolution), and still haven't managed to hit the holy grail that puts all three together.
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my g900 seems like it stutters and jumps my cursor around when I'm on the desktop, haven't noticed it in game though. Any idea why this is happening/how to fix it? I've got the receiver plugged into a usb 3.0 port on the front of my PC which is only like 4 feet away from my mouse pad.
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Nov 25, 2017 02:46
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Sagebrush posted:It's like they figured out the way that gets you good toggling and an annoying button (Anywhere MX), good button and annoying toggling (G9), and both together but really expensive (Revolution), and still haven't managed to hit the holy grail that puts all three together. The M705 and M720 have pretty much exactly what you want: an easily reachable mode-switch button next to the scroll wheel, press-wheel-to-middle-click, and a reasonable price tag. As long as you're in the market for a mobile-sized wireless nano-receiver or bluetooth mouse, anyway.
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Nov 25, 2017 03:05
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Sagebrush posted:
They did, it's called the MX Master. You can get the perfectly serviceable mark 1 for sixty bucks.
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Nov 25, 2017 03:29
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Wowporn posted:my g900 seems like it stutters and jumps my cursor around when I'm on the desktop, haven't noticed it in game though. Any idea why this is happening/how to fix it? I've got the receiver plugged into a usb 3.0 port on the front of my PC which is only like 4 feet away from my mouse pad. also there's no upside to plugging a receiver into USB 3.0 if you have a choice
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Nov 25, 2017 04:22
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Sagebrush posted:Switching back and forth between hyper-scroll and regular scroll requires a little detent to be mechanically flipped back and forth inside the scrolling mechanism. I've owned three Logitech mice with that technology, and they all handled it differently: The G502 has an extra middle button directly behind the scroll wheel, ahead of the profile switch button. It gives a nice solid thunk and goes from an adequate if not amazing regular scroll (still, better than most Logitechs!) to a really great freespinning mode.
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Nov 25, 2017 04:24
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Is there any hope for a successor of the G700s, now that they've used the name G703 for a completely different mouse? They don't even list the 700s on their gaming website anymore.
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Nov 25, 2017 10:52
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Tamba posted:Is there any hope for a successor of the G700s, now that they've used the name G703 for a completely different mouse? They don't even list the 700s on their gaming website anymore. Looks grim. Personally, I assumed the worst and grabbed a G700s the day after the G703 was announced.
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Nov 25, 2017 16:25
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I just bought a g602 after never bothering with a wireless mouse before and was wondering how much I need to worry about turning it off when I'm away and whether it would work well with the lower nominal voltage of rechargeable AAs.
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Nov 25, 2017 16:58
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dis astranagant posted:I just bought a g602 after never bothering with a wireless mouse before and was wondering how much I need to worry about turning it off when I'm away and whether it would work well with the lower nominal voltage of rechargeable AAs. Personally I'd use regular batteries. Rechargeables are a pain in the arse, and regular batteries last for months in that thing.
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Nov 25, 2017 17:51
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I don't even know the last time I turned off my G602 except to replace the batteries. I never use the gamer mode though, so I can't tell you how battery intensive it is.
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Nov 26, 2017 08:29
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So, about a year ago, I bought a Razer Chroma. I actually really, really like it, except it's loving falling apart before a year's out. The adhesive rubber pads on the bottom scraped off on my pretty good mousepad fast, and just this week, the scroll wheel has stopped physically registering clicks. Razer's tech support suggested that I reinstall their software- well, I'm a bit baffled as to why that would fix what is pretty obviously a hardware issue, but fine! Nope, that didn't work, so I go back to tech support telling them it didn't work and that I have a hardware issue with the scroll wheel. I get back three more suggestions- all of which are related to their synapse software.  Fed up, I disassemble the mouse myself, voiding the warranty, and confirm that yep, the microswitch under the scroll wheel is physically broken and not registering clicks. Great. Anyone have any suggestions for a mouse comparable to the Chroma in weight/features, but without me having to deal with the chucklefucks at Razer? I was looking at the steelseries rival 310, but I'm worried that it's a little on the light side and might be a little physically small, since my hands are ginormous.
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Nov 26, 2017 16:44
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Mukaikubo posted:So, about a year ago, I bought a Razer Chroma. I actually really, really like it, except it's loving falling apart before a year's out. The adhesive rubber pads on the bottom scraped off on my pretty good mousepad fast, and just this week, the scroll wheel has stopped physically registering clicks. Razer's tech support suggested that I reinstall their software- well, I'm a bit baffled as to why that would fix what is pretty obviously a hardware issue, but fine! Nope, that didn't work, so I go back to tech support telling them it didn't work and that I have a hardware issue with the scroll wheel. I get back three more suggestions- all of which are related to their synapse software. this guy does really good mouse reviews: http://www.rocketjumpninja.com/
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Nov 26, 2017 17:03
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Mukaikubo posted:So, about a year ago, I bought a Razer Chroma. I actually really, really like it, except it's loving falling apart before a year's out. The adhesive rubber pads on the bottom scraped off on my pretty good mousepad fast, and just this week, the scroll wheel has stopped physically registering clicks. Razer's tech support suggested that I reinstall their software- well, I'm a bit baffled as to why that would fix what is pretty obviously a hardware issue, but fine! Nope, that didn't work, so I go back to tech support telling them it didn't work and that I have a hardware issue with the scroll wheel. I get back three more suggestions- all of which are related to their synapse software. I've always found it really easy to start an RMA with Razer, though it's also true that I've had to do so with nearly every single mouse I purchased from them (the exception was one which failed a month out of warranty). I don't buy Razer mice any longer. I assume you were talking about the Deathadder (Chroma just means its LEDs have colors) - you might consider the ASUS ROG Gladius or the Logitech G403, which have a similar form factor. I like the ASUS one because most of the switches (and the feet) are user-servicable, and it comes with spare switches: 
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Nov 26, 2017 19:15
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Considering getting a Logitech G502 and I had a question about their software. Is it required to start each time Windows boots in order to load the DPI and button profiles? (like Razer) Or does it save it all to the mouse firmware, and you only need to run it as needed to change settings? Also if I take a configured mouse and plug it into a different computer will it retain my old settings?
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Nov 27, 2017 02:21
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All of the modern Logitech G-series has onboard memory and saves all settings. Their driver suite is also lightweight and superior to razer's and not harmful to your PC
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Nov 27, 2017 02:27
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Saves to mouse, will retain
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Nov 27, 2017 02:27
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astral posted:I've always found it really easy to start an RMA with Razer, though it's also true that I've had to do so with nearly every single mouse I purchased from them (the exception was one which failed a month out of warranty). In addition the G703 is essentially the wireless version of the 403, and it supports Logitech's new wireless charging mat. The 403/703 shape is super comfortable. The deathadder has a decent shape but it's a really loving huge mouse.
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Nov 27, 2017 05:30
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To add, the 403 isn't just a wireless version of the 703. The 403 has it's own wireless version as well.
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Nov 27, 2017 06:51
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Audax posted:To add, the 403 isn't just a wireless version of the 703. The 403 has it's own wireless version as well. Last I heard logitech is discontinuing the wireless 403 because it was too confusing. the 603 and 703 are intended to be the replacements for it, with the 603 being a cheaper version missing wireless charging; and having cheaper buttons.
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I've got a Corsair Scimitar, it's one of those mice with tons of buttons on the side for MMO games. The first one I got I returned to the shop because the scroll wheel's resistance was uneven all the way around and would often double-click on pressing The one I got back is better in that regard, but the left main button is harder to push than the right. The button will go through a few hundred clicks where it's only a little harder to push, then a few hundred clicks where it's much harder. If I put the mouse to my ear, I can hear a rubbing or scratching sound when I depress and lift the left button that's not audible with the right I'm going to feel a bit dumb when I try to explain to the store staff the mouse clicks wrong, but on the other hand it's an expensive mouse. Apart from the faults, it's nice enough. The software's totally dorky
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The Lord Bude posted:In addition the G703 is essentially the wireless version of the 403, and it supports Logitech's new wireless charging mat. The 403/703 shape is super comfortable. The deathadder has a decent shape but it's a really loving huge mouse. On the other hand, my hands are huge, and most mice are physically uncomfortable for me to use because I have to scrunch my hand up if I want to use my preferred palm grip. Even the deathadder is a little small for me and I have to go to some odd palm/claw hybrid, but I recognize I'm not gonna get anything bigger.
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Mukaikubo posted:On the other hand, my hands are huge, and most mice are physically uncomfortable for me to use because I have to scrunch my hand up if I want to use my preferred palm grip. Even the deathadder is a little small for me and I have to go to some odd palm/claw hybrid, but I recognize I'm not gonna get anything bigger. Rocketjumpninja has a mouse sorting section where you can sort by grip and hand size. They have several mice listed that are suitable for larger hand palm grippers, a couple are larger than the death adder. You might want to check out the Corsair Glaive in particular. It’s larger than the deathadder and one of the biggest mice you can buy. Rocketjumpninja’s review says that most people will find it too big to be comfortable, but if you find the deathadder too small you might find the glaive more comfortable. The Lord Bude fucked around with this message at 13:12 on Nov 27, 2017 |
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orcane posted:The first MX Anywhere had the same thing, the tiny button behind the wheel acts as a middle button (I guess it's mapped to something else with the Anywhere 2, but default mappings have gotten dumber over time) instead of the wheel. The wheel is not so much hard-coded as it's an actual physical switch IIRC. I actually love this about the Anywhere MX wheel, and wish more mice did it. I always end up accidentally scrolling the wheel a bit when I just want to press it, which is really annoying when playing fast paced games.
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Nov 27, 2017 16:42
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Is $50 for a MX Master (not 2S) a good deal?
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Nov 27, 2017 19:31
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They're going for $62 on average, so yes.
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Nov 27, 2017 19:33
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In that case, amazon has the stone colored MX Master for $49.99
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The Lord Bude posted:Rocketjumpninja has a mouse sorting section where you can sort by grip and hand size. They have several mice listed that are suitable for larger hand palm grippers, a couple are larger than the death adder. I love the Corsair Glaive. it's so rad.
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Is it just me or are there no deals for the MX Master 2s for black Friday weekend? Might just bite the bullet and spend $100 on it
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I'm starting to get old and my wrists are starting to hurt. I'm looking at the ergonomic 3M mice that resemble a joy stick. They seem more desirable than the other "neutral grip" or side-held mice, since I'll have to pinch my hand like a lobster claw and most likely be in more pain. What are some of the better ergonomic mice out there?
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paid money to post posted:I'm starting to get old and my wrists are starting to hurt. I'm looking at the ergonomic 3M mice that resemble a joy stick. They seem more desirable than the other "neutral grip" or side-held mice, since I'll have to pinch my hand like a lobster claw and most likely be in more pain. What are some of the better ergonomic mice out there? I think the mouse weight makes a huge difference too. The lighter the better. I have no loving clue where manufactures get off putting extra weight in their units. Insanity.
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As it turns out, a gram here, a gram there, it all adds up. http://www.overclock.net/t/1599416/manphalanges-light-weight-84g-logitech-g502 http://www.overclock.net/t/1606617/logitech-g502-weight-reduction-mod-review-102g Hi. I've been gone a bit trying out the g603 and g703. But I also had to get a g403 into the house to test, and I never *did* find the Roccat. I've got some very strong words for Logitech R&D... that post is coming soonish.
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paid money to post posted:I'm starting to get old and my wrists are starting to hurt. I'm looking at the ergonomic 3M mice that resemble a joy stick. They seem more desirable than the other "neutral grip" or side-held mice, since I'll have to pinch my hand like a lobster claw and most likely be in more pain. What are some of the better ergonomic mice out there?
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wolrah posted:I can say the Anker "ergonomic" mouse is terrible. It feels fine to hold, but the button arrangement makes it really hard to click without dragging. The 3M looks interesting. My favorite mouse ever is the MS Comfort mouse 6000 weighing in at 4oz. My wrist feels fantastic despite mousing all day every day.
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paid money to post posted:I'm starting to get old and my wrists are starting to hurt. I'm looking at the ergonomic 3M mice that resemble a joy stick. They seem more desirable than the other "neutral grip" or side-held mice, since I'll have to pinch my hand like a lobster claw and most likely be in more pain. What are some of the better ergonomic mice out there?
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I'll give that a try, thanks. And mouse weight was certainly something I never considered either.
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I hadn't played PC FPS games in a billion years when I played Overwatch, and I'd quickly get RSI. Lowering my sensitivity (something crazy in the thousa and downgrading my mouse from a G502 with a 402/900 took care of 95% of it. And teaching myself to aim with the arm except for precision where I might use my wrist ofc. I use a wrist pad if it ever gets bad which gives it the time to fix itself. WithMacs, the TrackPad took care of any issues at work. This was an earlier model than the current one but I assume it's as good if not better. ufarn fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Nov 28, 2017 |
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paid money to post posted:I'm starting to get old and my wrists are starting to hurt. I'm looking at the ergonomic 3M mice that resemble a joy stick. They seem more desirable than the other "neutral grip" or side-held mice, since I'll have to pinch my hand like a lobster claw and most likely be in more pain. What are some of the better ergonomic mice out there? Not a mouse but I can recommend the Allsop Wrist Assist as a fantastic replacement for a wrist pad. Unlike wrist pads, it slides with your arm so it doesn't put extra strain on your wrist.
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ufarn posted:I hadn't played PC FPS games in a billion years when I played Overwatch, and I'd quickly get RSI. Lowering my sensitivity (something crazy in the thousa and downgrading my mouse from a G502 with a 402/900 took care of 95% of it. And teaching myself to aim with the arm except for precision where I might use my wrist ofc.
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I am embarrassed to admit it but I put weights in my g9x until my wrist started to hurt. I try to think of it as the FPS equivalent to hyper gravity training. Reducing weight definitely reduced strain on my wrist.
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