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Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

drunken officeparty posted:

I've never watched star trek because I'm not a literal kid diddler.

And I doubt it has as many wiener jokes as Orville.

If Star Trek induces pedophilic urges then the Orville probably does too, so you might as well watch the good episodes of TNG since you're already infected.

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Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Peachfart posted:

The Orville is good 90's Star Trek with the S/N filed off plus jokes. If you like it, you should check out TNG(the Picard one) and then watch DS9.

Or don't, because TNG is just The Orville but it takes all the dumb stuff that Orville pokes fun at completely seriously and the jokes are terrible.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
TNG's highlight episodes are a little better than the Orville on average, but the series as a whole is way worse yeah.

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice

Jeb! Repetition posted:

TNG's highlight episodes are a little better than the Orville on average, but the series as a whole is way worse yeah.

I mean...you’re comparing 178 episodes to 10, the latter of which are cribbing pretty shamelessly from the former’s greatest hits, so it seems a bit of an unfair comparison.

A Major Fucker
Mar 10, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
all trek fans are pedophiles

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Phylodox posted:

I mean...you’re comparing 178 episodes to 10, the latter of which are cribbing pretty shamelessly from the former’s greatest hits, so it seems a bit of an unfair comparison.

an unfair comparison perhaps, but given the choice between watching one random TNG episode or one random Orville episode, I'd pick the latter.

at least then there's no risk of getting Sub Rosa

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
If you're guaranteed to get a season 3-6 episode I'd take the random TNG over random Orville

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

You're not! In fact it's guaranteed to be either an episode where Wesley saves the day, Troi gets brain-raped and no one cares, or a Geordie/Data holodeck adventure!

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Sagebrush posted:

You're not! In fact it's guaranteed to be either an episode where Wesley saves the day, Troi gets brain-raped and no one cares, or a Geordie/Data holodeck adventure!

Don't talk poo poo about Geordi/Data holodeck adventures.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Sagebrush posted:

You're not! In fact it's guaranteed to be either an episode where Wesley saves the day, Troi gets brain-raped and no one cares, or a Geordie/Data holodeck adventure!

* Not actually guaranteed, thank the Great Bird.

The best thing I can say about The Orville after 10 episodes, is that the show has a sense of joy in addition to a sense of wonder. And that's a rare thing.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Jeb! Repetition posted:

Don't talk poo poo about Geordi/Data holodeck adventures.

:hfive:

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
Fistful of Datas is a Data holodeck episode that somehow manages to be good despite having Alexander in it, so I think we can agree that Data+holodeck is a potent combination

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


That's the only TNG Alexander episode that isn't the worst.

Though I do conceptually like the one where he attempts to time travel in order to kill himself because him not existing would've been great.

Gynovore
Jun 17, 2009

Forget your RoboCoX or your StickyCoX or your EvilCoX, MY CoX has Blinking Bewbs!

WHY IS THIS GAME DEAD?!

Grand Fromage posted:

That's the only TNG Alexander episode that isn't the worst.

Sadly true. I'm not sure whether to blame the actor or the writers.

Ah, who am i kidding, always blame the writers.

drunken officeparty
Aug 23, 2006

A Major Fucker posted:

all trek fans are pedophiles

the statistics don't lie

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice

Grand Fromage posted:

That's the only TNG Alexander episode that isn't the worst.

Though I do conceptually like the one where he attempts to time travel in order to kill himself because him not existing would've been great.

The higher, the fewer!

I mean, I guess technically, he showed up in Rascals, which wasn't terrible.

8one6
May 20, 2012

When in doubt, err on the side of Awesome!

Fistful of Datas is also the best Troi episode, by virtue of a) she isn't mind raped in that one and b) Marina Sirtis actually looks like she's enjoying filming the episode.

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


tng is at its best when mark twain shows up

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

8one6 posted:

Fistful of Datas is also the best Troi episode, by virtue of a) she isn't mind raped in that one and b) Marina Sirtis actually looks like she's enjoying filming the episode.

I'd say Face of the Enemy is a better Troi episode.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Phylodox posted:

I mean...you’re comparing 178 episodes to 10, the latter of which are cribbing pretty shamelessly from the former’s greatest hits, so it seems a bit of an unfair comparison.

On the other hand, it's season 1 being compared against the whole series, and TNG spent a lot of its season one trying to crib from TNG's greatest hits.

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
Don't you freaks have 3 star trek threads to share your internet porn?

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Rocksicles posted:

Don't you freaks have 3 star trek threads to share your internet porn?
Including this one, yes. And that’s how it should be.

3 DONG HORSE
May 22, 2008

I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization

This is basically the Star Trek off topic / chat thread wherein we talk about Fahrenheit, ethics, and things of that nature. The other two threads are for actual Star Trek shows.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Jazerus posted:

tng is at its best when mark twain shows up

I....hate you...so much...

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice

Cingulate posted:

Including this one, yes. And that’s how it should be.

I think there's three actual star trek threads--TVIV megathread, GBS megathread and disco thread. So this one is number four.

drunken officeparty
Aug 23, 2006

Is the original William Shatner star trek as goofy as I always imagine it. Like Adam West "POW" Batman goofy.

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice

drunken officeparty posted:

Is the original William Shatner star trek as goofy as I always imagine it. Like Adam West "POW" Batman goofy.

No. The ‘66 Batman was deliberately campy and silly, whereas old school Trek is, for the most part, played seriously but suffers (or benefits) from dated special effects/set design and melodramatic acting.

Tom Guycot
Oct 15, 2008

Chief of Governors


drunken officeparty posted:

Is the original William Shatner star trek as goofy as I always imagine it. Like Adam West "POW" Batman goofy.

not quite that goofy. I mean that batman was very specifically goofy and comedic even for its time, star trek was serious just... a product of being a serious show in the 1960's. Some episodes are beyond cheesy, some are light hearted, and some are interesting and serious. Even the best of them though are cheesy by today's standards. The fights are hokey, the sets and effects are bad, the morality play aspect is heavy handed, but some of the ones with interesting ideas are still interesting. Sort of like the Twilight zone, though Twilight has aged a lot better in my option.

Itzena
Aug 2, 2006

Nothing will improve the way things currently are.
Slime TrainerS

Jazerus posted:

tng is at its best when mark twain shows up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uIxSwvmWVM

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

Mantis42 posted:

I've picked up enough about Star Trek through cultural osmosis and RedLetterMedia that I get the general idea, I guess. I'd probably like Star Trek but I don't want to get into a whole thing.

The cool thing about most Star Trek is there is no ongoing story so you can just watch the occasional episode, you don't have to binge a whole season at a time or whatever nonsense.

MjolnirMan
Aug 15, 2006
It's Hammertime

twistedmentat posted:

I'm pretty sure they are two different designs. The wrist mounted ones seemed more like normal flashlights, rather than a clock radio style. Pretty sure they moved to the second type because they realized no one would ever use such a stupid design.

Star Trek Online retconned those dumb fistful things into hands-free hover flashlights, which is simultaneously stupid and amazing.

Tighclops
Jan 23, 2008

Unable to deal with it


Grimey Drawer

cheetah7071 posted:

I think there's three actual star trek threads--TVIV megathread, GBS megathread and disco thread. So this one is number four.

there are four threads

drunken officeparty
Aug 23, 2006

Tighclops posted:

there are four threads

which ones were moderated by the diddler.

drunken officeparty fucked around with this message at 12:04 on Nov 27, 2017

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Tighclops posted:

there are four threads

No, actually there are five.

Tell me. How many threads do you see?

How many threads?

3 DONG HORSE
May 22, 2008

I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization

:golfclap:

I love this thread lol

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

There actually are 5 threads, GBS has both a Star Trek and a Orville thread. But that isn't very funny.

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde
I need my fix this week. One hour where I can settle in with a nice snack and watch new Trek-adjacent content and for a moment, all is right with the world.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

8one6 posted:

Fistful of Datas is also the best Troi episode, by virtue of a) she isn't mind raped in that one and b) Marina Sirtis actually looks like she's enjoying filming the episode.

For some reason my suggested videos on youtube for the past week have been Marina Sirtis speaking at Cons. Fistful of Datas was one of her favorite episodes and Dorn was furious with her because this was a Worf episode and he didn't want her out-funnying him.

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious

SwissCM posted:

My mum hates Star Trek and for some reason really enjoys The Orville :shrug:

That is totally awesome. More people enjoying the show without a huge investment needed in their time to "get" it is a feather in the show runners cap. And just good in general. Your mom sounds like a neat addition to the fans of this show.

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Othin
Nov 20, 2002

Hair Elf
Phone posting so my apologies if this has already been posted but I though this tvguide (lol) article nicely summed up the delta between critics and viewers.

http://www.tvguide.com/amp/news/the-orville-critics-fans-reviews/

quote:

...The truth is, The Orville was never going to win over critics because it's a throwback and goes against everything modern television is. As a critic, I know that a show's sense of identity can directly correlate to whether I think it's good or not; with so much TV out there, and typically, when show doesn't seem to know what it is, it's not going to get very far. But The Orville, seems to be a very different case. It's not that The Orville doesn't know what it wants it to be, as critics assume, it's that it wants to be a little bit of everything.

"Seth's plan was always — he didn't want anyone to know what the show was," showrunner David A. Goodman told TV Guide before the show's premiere. "So there are episodes that are very comedic, and there are episodes that are very dramatic. Because we're out in the universe and it takes place in the future, you've got a whole variety of stories you can tell and we're not going to limit ourselves into a cookie cutter idea of what the show is."

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