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Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax

Sperglord Firecock posted:

I don't know what to say to anyone wanting to play The Sims games in this day and age other than find a way to :filez: it because seriously gently caress giving EA money.

Hardcore Sims fans tend to be either kids who don't know any better or middle-aged women who have spent over a decade transcribing Sims-focused fiction and roleplays on the internet and are so hungry for anything new that even if the performance and features are objectively inferior the new installment is worth it just because it's different.

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Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Speaking of The Sims, I happened across a mod that lets sims get drunk. Apparently the way it's tuned, they get drunk off of one drink and somebody complained in the comments:

quote:

People drink, no one whom I know gets drunk with one drink, even the sim equivalent of one beer gets my Sim dazed with a hangover, plus there are no benefits to your mod, people also drink in real life for benefits, Your mod doesn't address stress relief, happiness, just flirtiness a tiny bit, other than that,nada, just harmful impacts. I think you made this mod subconsciously being judgemental, possibly made to forewarn the children about the evils of alcohol. Uninstalling, hopefully someone will make a better, more realistic one.

I mean... a weird point, but okay. Sure. That's your opinion, man. This was actually posted in response to the mod author responding to some earlier criticism.

I don't think it necessarily warranted this response from somebody else a week later, though:

quote:

What kind of soapbox, public service announcement horseshit is that. You're not going to get every detail of real life with a mod because the "good people" at EA didn't set it up to be that way. These modders gotta use what is available in the engine of the game to make it work.

And I do believe that this mod works with Leniad's liquors because I tested it on a few Sims and they were getting drunk as f-ck off some Applejack and Moonshine so the buffs were showing up even with that liquor.

Go on back to playing your socially conscience bullshit game. I want an adult game and thanks to Wolf's mod I got drunks, with Base I got drinking and drugs, turbo I got drunk hookers and other seedy underworld stuff, and with Sacrificial I get to have people beat the hell out of some drunks. Now because of Cats and Dogs I'm gonna have Rots and Pitbulls biting people and mauling their asses.

Y'know, normal people stuff. That's what Sims is all about, getting drunk, high and banging some drunk hookers and owning a pitbull for the express purpose of mauling people.

For reference, it was this mod.

Why do people take Sims modding so goddamn seriously? It's mind-boggling, always has been. It's like nobody ever learns and if it's not stupid drama it's whining about incidental details in mods and demanding the creator "fixes" things to whatever arbitrary standard.

Cicadas!
Oct 27, 2010


Ruflux posted:

Why do people take Sims modding so goddamn seriously?

I want to say that Sims as a whole probably attracts lots of oddballs due to its God-simulator properties, but it's more likely that most modders are just strange people with strong ideas about how they want things to be, and putting more than one of them in a communal setting will usually lead to clashing viewpoints or worse.

Maybe a little of both, in this situation.

Bieeanshee
Aug 21, 2000

Not keen on keening.


Grimey Drawer
My favourite The Sims is hosed story dates back to Sims Online... which was hosed from the start, given that its 'do minigames for simoleons' feature swiftly turned into an on-line sweatshop. That's nothing on the mafias that sprung up in-game...

Wayback Machine posted:

Posted on Thu, Jun. 05, 2003 story:PUB_DESC
Hey Tony, outta the way, mob moves on `Sims Online'
By Dawn C. Chmielewski
Mercury News

Tony Soprano can keep Jersey (who wants it, anyways?) A new family is movin' in on unclaimed turf -- online.

An underground group known as the Sims Shadow Government has taken over the fantasy world that is ``The Sims Online,'' meting out mob justice.

It's a violent twist for ``The Sims,'' the dollhouse-inspired computer game that has long been portrayed as the antithesis to guns-'n-gore bestsellers like ``Grand Theft Auto.'' The emergence of a seedy underbelly in the online game may reveal more about the dark fantasies of middle-aged suburbanites than anyone suspected.

Turns out, everyone wants to be Tony Soprano or Don Vito Corleone.

To hear the ersatz mob boss, Piers Mathieson, tell it, it all began innocently enough, with the desire to impose order on the chaos that is ``The Sims Online.''

The game's designer, Will Wright, deliberately created a blank stage on which players could act out their fantasies.

To Mathieson, the lack of a government to lay down laws in virtual online communities like Alphaville -- let alone cops to enforce the rules -- resulted in anarchy. ``Grievers'' arose -- players who delight in creating misery for other players -- stealing money, trashing houses or even appropriating another's online identity.

Mathieson, 34, who lives in Las Vegas and promotes bands, said players turned into racketeers.

``They show up at your house and they request protection money. `You have to pay me 100,000 simolians if you don't want your house torn down.' It's technically harassment.''

The most popular person in the Sims universe -- Mia Wallace, a composite character played by Mathieson and his wife, Jennifer -- stepped into the power vacuum and organized the Sims Shadow Government.

``We weren't playing the games as hoodlums, we were playing the game as protectors of the city,'' said Mathieson.

At least at first. Somewhere along the line, though, the Sims Shadow Government turned from benevolent overseer to a virtual version of La Cosa Nostra.

Maybe it was the emergence of a rival family, the Playtime gang. Or maybe it was the Mia impostor, who tarnished the real Mia's reputation by inviting other players to work for her as a prostitute. Perhaps the final straw was when someone hijacked Mathieson's America Online account -- and stole all of his in-game cash and property.

Whatever the pretext, Mia morphed from prom queen to mob boss. A handful of the SSG's 160 members would meet outside the game -- in Yahoo discussion groups or by phone -- to talk about offenses against the ``family'' and plot revenge.

The in-game hits are not as gory as a bloody horse head in the bed of a movie producer who offended Don Corleone -- the fictional Godfather created by Mario Puzo.

Nor does it match the savagery of a HBO's prime-time mobster Tony Soprano, who beats fellow ``made man'' Ralphie Cifaretto to death for killing their jointly-owned racehorse, Pie-o-My, for the insurance money, then stuffs Ralphie's head in a bowling ball bag for safekeeping.

But for online game players who invest months developing a character, it can be nonetheless devastating. Like the time 28 gang members stormed a rival's property and delivered a ``red link'' -- the game's way of designating another player as an ``enemy.''

Particularly egregious affronts to the Shadow Government could -- at least until game maker Maxis disabled this feature -- be dealt with by ripping out an opponent's heart. Of course, nobody dies in the ``Sims Online.'' It's just to prove a point.

This drama via modem is consuming for its participants, who've formed real-life friendships with their in-game allies.

Kacie Velie, a 21-year-old assistant manager of a residential facility for the mentally retarded in Poughkeepsie, N.Y., is by night one of the SSG's capos. She said the drama became so intense she sometimes receives calls at work about developments.

``I am amazed personally as to how this whole game has become so real . . . I spend more time with my computer than I do with my friends,'' said Velie, who like about 60 percent of the players, is a woman.

Wright -- the grand puppet master who birthed the bestselling Sims franchise -- is both fascinated and frustrated by the emergence of the mob.

In an interview at a recent trade show, Wright said he logs on nightly to monitor the mob's exploits. But he said Maxis is powerless to stop it -- since all the group's communications happen outside of the game.

Game experts say organized gangs are the hallmark of successful online multiplayer games, like ``Lineage'' or ``Ultima Online.'' Sometimes, it's a sign that the game lacks enough interesting elements to engage the players -- so they create their own drama. More often, it means players are so attached that they invest the time to exploit its rules.

Consider the Mathiesons hooked. They decided to delete the Mia character, saying the demands of reigning as overlord of Alphaville became too taxing. But they're not about to quit the game.

``She just retired, for the simple fact she needs to go in for a face-lift,'' said Mathieson. ``She came back as Hermia, with a bouffant hairdo. A much different Sim.''

Maybe Mia's gone. But she's not forgotten.

``Our friends know who the overlord is.''

Kikas
Oct 30, 2012
You could rip other players hearts out in The Sims? :wtc:

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

Kikas posted:

You could rip other players hearts out in The Sims? :wtc:

you can kill sims in all manner of ways dude

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

Kikas posted:

You could rip other players hearts out in The Sims? :wtc:

The mods you see at the end of this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTAoTeUpKnI) make it seem like you can do much more than that.

Thefluffy
Sep 7, 2014
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58499 doom is now updated to today's standards :nsa: https://gfycat.com/leafyweepygoldfinch

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.


uh...














If you already knew that swastika symbol had an entirely different meaning before hitler (in asia) then good job you can googletranslate and roll your eyes at the comments full of idiocy in three languages. Especially the ones chiding ignorance, when the uploader somehow expected the internet not to flip out over something so dumb.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1205395512


quote:

1.0.1 update (2017.11.21)
added the killing monkey's naughty value

Dwesa
Jul 19, 2016

It's not even branching in a direction of nazi swastika.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...
Isn't that supposed to be a manji? I know that it's similar or derived from the swastika, but doesn't it have some sort of different meaning? I remember that the layout of the third dungeon from original Legend of Zelda is made to look like a manji.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Yes. The manji is the swastika the only difference is that - probably due to right-to-left reading - Chinese and Japanese preferred the left-facing version. Both versions have less-used 'reverse' variations that face the opposite way to the regular.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Archonex
May 2, 2012

MY OPINION IS SEERS OF THE THRONE PROPAGANDA IGNORE MY GNOSIS-IMPAIRED RAMBLINGS

Cicadas! posted:

I want to say that Sims as a whole probably attracts lots of oddballs due to its God-simulator properties, but it's more likely that most modders are just strange people with strong ideas about how they want things to be, and putting more than one of them in a communal setting will usually lead to clashing viewpoints or worse.

Maybe a little of both, in this situation.

Another part of it was that at one point there was a perception that there was money to be made on it. So people would flip the gently caress out if someone did something remotely similar or better than their mod.

It's kind of like an even spergier version of the Minecraft community in that regard.

Kikas
Oct 30, 2012

"You picked the wrong house, baka!~"

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Kikas posted:

"You picked the wrong house, baka!~"

"CJ! OOOOOOH My dearest Nakama!"

T/N: a dead fuckin meme

Huzzah!
Sep 15, 2007

Malnutrition is scarier than any beastie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABiPg1UL9Vg

Sonic Forces DLC is weird.

metricchip
Jul 16, 2014


Looks like regular sonic to me

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
Speaking of Sims 4 mod, someone posted about the one sex mod (which was used to make that amazing post in the last thread cause Sims wouldn't stop having sex automatically about mario and sonic loving until they died). It has a patreon. That person is making 13k a month :psyduck:

lurksion
Mar 21, 2013

Leal posted:

Speaking of Sims 4 mod, someone posted about the one sex mod (which was used to make that amazing post in the last thread cause Sims wouldn't stop having sex automatically about mario and sonic loving until they died). It has a patreon. That person is making 13k a month :psyduck:
Yep. Was actually brought up a few pages back (mid-70s)

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Leal posted:

Speaking of Sims 4 mod, someone posted about the one sex mod (which was used to make that amazing post in the last thread cause Sims wouldn't stop having sex automatically about mario and sonic loving until they died). It has a patreon. That person is making 13k a month :psyduck:

I imagine it's a team, not a single person

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






There's money in them thar dicktits

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

lurksion posted:

Yep. Was actually brought up a few pages back (mid-70s)

And I just saw the counter post about that 3d monster girl game making 36k


gently caress, why did I decide to get in the retail industry and didn't just continue learning art/programming that everyone told me would lead me nowhere. I could be making several college graduate incomes.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
Learning art and programming isn't enough. You have to make porn. The more non-standard, the more you'll make.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
Well yeah, I make art and then use programming to program the art to rub against each other. 36k a month!

Bieeanshee
Aug 21, 2000

Not keen on keening.


Grimey Drawer
Build a better cross-dressing mouse and the world will beat off a path to your door.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Bieeardo posted:

Build a better cross-dressing mouse and the world will beat off a path to your door.

I don't know whether to be impressed or disappointed that this wasn't a "trap" joke

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
It doesn't even have to be good art or stable programming. People are so starved for entertainment that caters to their fetishes that they will pay you money to make just the most low-effort poo poo as long as it has foreverial tied up and loving it JC Denton or whatever

Shadowlyger
Nov 5, 2009

ElvUI super fan at your service!

Ask me any and all questions about UI customization via PM
The secret artist cheat: Make a furaffinity account and open commissions. Observe as money rains from the sky.

Just be aware of the fact that you're selling your soul in the process.

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


Shadowlyger posted:

The secret artist cheat: Make a furaffinity account and open commissions. Observe as money rains from the sky.

Just be aware of the fact that you're selling your soul in the process.

Also be aware of the FBI tip reporting process

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax

Leal posted:

And I just saw the counter post about that 3d monster girl game making 36k


gently caress, why did I decide to get in the retail industry and didn't just continue learning art/programming that everyone told me would lead me nowhere. I could be making several college graduate incomes.

Much like pop music and modern art, it's something everybody says they could totally do if they really wanted to but deep down inside they know they're just bullshitting themselves because the alternative is acknowledging how little they have actually accomplished with their lives.

It's like the sad washed-up nerd version of Al Bundy and how he totally could have gone pro.

OutofSight
May 4, 2017

CJacobs posted:

It doesn't even have to be good art or stable programming. People are so starved for entertainment that caters to their fetishes that they will pay you money to make just the most low-effort poo poo as long as it has foreverial tied up and loving it JC Denton or whatever

Which reminds me, that there was a interesting thread in the "ask/tell" sub forums about being a fetish artist on the internet. So for anyone considering a career change from retail:
[url] https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3826161 [/url]

Time to check out how deep that fishbowl goes...

Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

Leal posted:

Speaking of Sims 4 mod, someone posted about the one sex mod (which was used to make that amazing post in the last thread cause Sims wouldn't stop having sex automatically about mario and sonic loving until they died). It has a patreon. That person is making 13k a month :psyduck:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3514513&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=456#post464105288

That post, for the record. With Mario and Sonic.

metricchip
Jul 16, 2014

OutofSight posted:

Which reminds me, that there was a interesting thread in the "ask/tell" sub forums about being a fetish artist on the internet. So for anyone considering a career change from retail:
[url] https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3826161 [/url]

Time to check out how deep that fishbowl goes...

There's an interesting article I recently saw on this.

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014

I'm pretty sure that article was linked earlier this thread. We're coming full circle...

The MSJ
May 17, 2010


The MSJ fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Nov 30, 2017

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


gently caress you. :gonk:

Shady Amish Terror
Oct 11, 2007
I'm not Amish by choice. 8(
So, against my better judgement, I popped that image open in a new tab as it is (wisely) refusing to load in the thread. If anyone else is having the same issue, then good for you, hahaha.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...
Here's another Sonic Forces that should serve as a palette cleanser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcAmB_S9WkM

"All we had to do was follow the drat Egg Carrier, CJ!"

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Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Wow, the new Nexus webpage layout is terrible.

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