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Handsome Ralph posted:Hot Karl Marx, now's your chance to to tell me no, don't do it. Seriously though, I wanna move to Nova Scotia. I was about to say god no, anywhere but NS but then I realized it could be worst - Ottawa, Newfoundland, anywhere between Windsor and the Rockies. So yeah go ahead. Comedy option: the territories.
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FrozenVent posted:I was about to say god no, anywhere but NS but then I realized it could be worst - Ottawa, Newfoundland, anywhere between Windsor and the Rockies. So yeah go ahead. Yukon and LARP MECCs Yukon Trail.
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Russell Simmons: sexual assaulter
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cowboy elvis posted:Russell Simmons: sexual assaulter And people thought Rushcard was the most exploitive thing he did.
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goddamn. I hope someone's been tweeting that to Lindsay Graham and the POTUS accounts a lot today. Well, Jake "angry that reality doesn't matter anymore" Tapper picked it up https://twitter.com/TheLeadCNN/status/936351078030987265 mlmp08 fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Nov 30, 2017 |
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I'm refreshing rapidly, the deficit hawks have been holding out for the last 15 minutes and could, COULD kill the tax bill. Edit: nevermind, welp. 15 minute vote was held out for an hour though! facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Nov 30, 2017 |
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https://www.c-span.org/video/?437830-1/us-senate-headed-toward-final-vote-gop-tax-reform-bill c-spam senate feed, watch old white dudes 
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If there are any lawyers around: is there any law against publicly brandishing a guillotine in DC?
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HAIL loving SATAN ALL THREE VOTED NO
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https://twitter.com/MikeDorning/status/936359445898170368 It's so good that we can't show it!
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shame on an IGA posted:HAIL loving SATAN ALL THREE VOTED NO it dead?
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shame on an IGA posted:HAIL loving SATAN ALL THREE VOTED NO The bill continues. It was a motion to send it back to committee. False alarm, everything is still terrible.
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McConnell wants it voted on ASAP because it has to happen before the government shuts down and this is clearly the most important thing Congress can do right now.
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The only good thing that can come of the tax bill is that I'll get a tax break, while Trump voters will get a tax increase. Unfortunately, so will millions of people who don't deserve to pay more taxes.
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psydude posted:The only good thing that can come of the tax bill is that I'll get a tax break, while Trump voters will get a tax increase. Unfortunately, so will millions of people who don't deserve to pay more taxes. I'll get a tax break for like 2-3 grand and lose all my employees...
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That Works posted:I'll get a tax break for like 2-3 grand and lose all my employees... Job creation!
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The best part about this bill is how people can avoid taxes by becoming their own business. I already have a passthrough LLC, so I'll probably leverage that to become a subcontractor to my current company. Job creation!
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https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/936363732069945348 Can anybody translate this
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psydude posted:The best part about this bill is how people can avoid taxes by becoming their own business. I already have a passthrough LLC, so I'll probably leverage that to become a subcontractor to my current company. Job creation! Wasn't sure if that would work, pondering doing that now.
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shyduck posted:https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/936363732069945348 Their bill violates parliamentarian rules related to reconciliation and therefore can't or shouldn't be passed but 2017 so who knows
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shyduck posted:https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/936363732069945348 It means that, as written, the bill can't pass the senate without 60 votes.
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psydude posted:It means that, as written, the bill can't pass the senate without 60 votes. Doesn’t it also mean that without the trigger it may lose the 3 or so votes they need to pass it using reconciliation?
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psydude posted:It means that, as written, the bill can't pass the senate without 60 votes. PLEASE let this be true 
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psydude posted:It means that, as written, the bill can't pass the senate without 60 votes. Why does it require more than a simple majority?
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smertrioslol posted:Why does it require more than a simple majority? I think it's something to do with the budget. If a bill adds more then $X billion to the deficit, it needs a super-majority.
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smertrioslol posted:Why does it require more than a simple majority? Standard Senate votes can be filibustered by the minority, which takes 60 votes to get past. Republicans were trying to pass the ACA repeal and the tax bill using a process called budget reconciliation that only requires 51 votes but imposes limitations in what the bill can do.
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smertrioslol posted:Why does it require more than a simple majority? Republicans want to use a mechanism called budget reconciliation to pass it with a simple majority, but this requires that the bill not add to the budget. They passed a budget earlier this year that would free up $1.5T in funding, so their tax cuts can't cost more than that. Unfortunately for Republicans, the tax bill raises the deficit by more than that amount. Deficit hawks have proposed something called a trigger, which would automatically raise taxes if the economic growth generated by the tax bill doesn't meet a certain target by a certain point as a means to offset the additional cost of the cuts. The parliamentarian, the non-partisan referee of the senate, has ruled that this is insufficient to offset the deficit increase caused by the bill, which means that it can't be passed under budget reconciliation rules and must be passed with a 60 vote majority.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Standard Senate votes can be filibustered by the minority, which takes 60 votes to get past. Republicans were trying to pass the ACA repeal and the tax bill using a process called budget reconciliation that only requires 51 votes but imposes limitations in what the bill can do. Note that the rules of the senate can be changed with 51 votes (well, 50 actually with Pence). Normally removing the filibuster would be considered one of those crossing the rubicon moments but they already stole a Supreme Court seat and are confirming newly minted lawyers to be federal judges so...
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So yeah that's totally is what will happen.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:
Notch is in my opinion one of the biggest losers of all time for managing to be 100% online, alone, resentful and miserable while inside a Malibu mansion and while having a billion dollars. It's breathtaking someone could succeed so well at finding unhappiness despite their circumstances.
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The question is if Republicans would kill the filibuster to fulfill their destiny of permanent tax cuts for billionaires
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Yertle the Turtle going down in history as the man who destroyed the Senate is going to be pretty neat.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Yertle the Turtle going down in history as the man who destroyed the Senate is going to be pretty neat. Only Louisville could create the anti Henry Clay.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Yertle the Turtle going down in history as the man who destroyed the Senate is going to be pretty neat. When is he up for reelection, anyway? I'd be hilarious if Bannon & Co run a Klansman against him and win by calling him a RINO.
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Can we rename the GOP the "Donor Party" and joke about how they're basically eating each other while trying to survive
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Yertle the Turtle going down in history as the man who destroyed the Senate is going to be pretty neat. He can be on a plinth with that other great destroyer of senates, Jar-Jar Binks.
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Best Friends posted:Notch is in my opinion one of the biggest losers of all time for managing to be 100% online, alone, resentful and miserable while inside a Malibu mansion and while having a billion dollars. It's breathtaking someone could succeed so well at finding unhappiness despite their circumstances. Hahahahahahahahah I could tell you a thing or two
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Yertle the Turtle going down in history as the man who destroyed the Senate is going to be pretty neat. I've had this bad feeling in my stomach that they're just going to wind up completely gutting all of the rules of the senate so that everything requires 51 votes and thats it.
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