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Wrr
Aug 8, 2010


Any good resources out there for exercises and stretches (or supplements?) I can do during my off days to promote muscle & tendon recovery? I'm worried that simply "not doing anything" isn't enough, and I frequently have to go climbing for work during what is supposed to be my recovery time. I'm mostly concerned about my forearms and wrists.

Also, why is tower climbing / ladder climbing so much harder on the wrists for me than bouldering? poo poo leaves me wrecked.

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Rallos
Aug 1, 2004
Live The Music
Not an expert but I would guess that ladder climbing is harder because it's much more repetitive motion where bouldering is a bunch of different moves.

armorer
Aug 6, 2012

I like metal.
I don't suppose any of you climbing goons are in Las Vegas this weekend?

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

armorer posted:

I don't suppose any of you climbing goons are in Las Vegas this weekend?

I had some friends out there this week but didn't go myself. I usually make it out in the spring.

armorer
Aug 6, 2012

I like metal.
Welp, I'm winding down from a week of climbing out here. My buddy leaves tomorrow morning, but I'm free on Saturday and Sunday so I was trying to decide if I wanted to climb even more or let my battered self get some rest. (By which mean rent a motorcycle and drive around in the desert.) If none of you randos are out here though I guess I'll go for the bike option.

ploots
Mar 19, 2010
You could rent a pad for a day or two from Desert Rock Sports and roll around the Kraft boulders. Or skip the pad rental and hang out at the Monkey Bar boulder, it's almost always covered in pads.

ploots
Mar 19, 2010
What is the right time of year to boulder at Squamish? Is it rainy all winter like the US pacific northwest?

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum
It didn't rain in Squamish between June and September this year.

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
I went climbing with my partner's siblings on Saturday and sent a v3 and a 5.9.

Progress :unsmith:

armorer
Aug 6, 2012

I like metal.
We need more pictures in this thread.

Good times in and around Red Rocks:












Awkward Davies
Sep 3, 2009
Grimey Drawer

Wrr posted:

Any good resources out there for exercises and stretches (or supplements?) I can do during my off days to promote muscle & tendon recovery? I'm worried that simply "not doing anything" isn't enough, and I frequently have to go climbing for work during what is supposed to be my recovery time. I'm mostly concerned about my forearms and wrists.

Also, why is tower climbing / ladder climbing so much harder on the wrists for me than bouldering? poo poo leaves me wrecked.

I'm wondering about forearm/wrist care also. My wrist popped while bouldering last week and has been a bit sore since. Not sure if I just have mega tight forearms (which I do), or if I really hosed something up.

Edit: seems kinda like I have really mild De Quervain's Tendinosis. Guess I'll add that to my list of things to ice and take advil every day and hope it goes away before climbing this weekend.

Awkward Davies fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Nov 27, 2017

Syncopated
Oct 21, 2010

armorer posted:

We need more pictures in this thread.

Good times in and around Red Rocks:














Ugh that looks amazing

Mons Hubris
Aug 29, 2004

fanci flup :)


Red Rocks is sick as hell, great pictures.

What is the best place to send my Mythos to get resoled?

armorer
Aug 6, 2012

I like metal.
I always get stuff done at rock and resole. They've done right by me for over a dozen resoles at this point.

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

COOL CORN posted:

I went climbing with my partner's siblings on Saturday and sent a v3 and a 5.9.

Progress :unsmith:

Since V3 is 11c/d you should climb harder on lead.


Mons Hubris posted:

Red Rocks is sick as hell, great pictures.

What is the best place to send my Mythos to get resoled?

It is!

Also Rock and Resole in Boulder CO.

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

OK here are some pics from this year. I don't really snap too many photos. Enjoy!

Red River Gorge (some 11a)


Bancroft Peak (mostly class 3 and 4, 1 pitch class 5)


South Six Shooter


Chocolate Corner, Indian Creek (not me in the photo)


Crimson Chrysalis (Red Rock)


Red River Gorge (some 11a me climbing)


Generic Crack, Indian Creek (me belaying)


Unknown 10, Indian Creek (me belaying)


Dark Shadows, 3rd Pitch, Red Rock


Generic Crack Again (me being tired)


Pano on the South Six Shooter

Quandary
Jan 29, 2008

spwrozek posted:

Since V3 is 11c/d you should climb harder on lead

Woah really? I know gym scoring is goofy, but at my gym I can climb v3/4 pretty regularly but only get like 10a/b on lead.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Boulderer Falls, Pulls 300-Pound Rock With Him

interrodactyl
Nov 8, 2011

you have no dignity

Quandary posted:

Woah really? I know gym scoring is goofy, but at my gym I can climb v3/4 pretty regularly but only get like 10a/b on lead.

I boulder way harder than I lead. It's a slightly different set of skills - you might be able to do all the V4 moves individually on a boulder, but after 20ft of V3 climbing, doing a last set of V4 moves is much tougher.

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

Quandary posted:

Woah really? I know gym scoring is goofy, but at my gym I can climb v3/4 pretty regularly but only get like 10a/b on lead.

In the gym V0-V4 is a V0 outside. If they graded as outside is people would not see progression fast enough and get demoralized and not come back. Got to make that money! Routes tend to be closer to reality but it depends where you climb at outside.

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy


That is gnarly. Looks like the rock pops on the way up but he must not of heard/noticed it.

armorer
Aug 6, 2012

I like metal.

spwrozek posted:

OK here are some pics from this year. I don't really snap too many photos. Enjoy!
<cool photos>

Nice! There's so much to climb in Red Rocks. This was my first time out here so I feel like I just barely scratched the surface. I do most of my trad climbing in the gunks and it felt totally different out here on sandstone. The rock formations and features are totally different, pro places differently, and there are some serious objectives (like epinephrine, which I tagged this time around) that are way bigger than anything we have back east.

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

armorer posted:

Nice! There's so much to climb in Red Rocks. This was my first time out here so I feel like I just barely scratched the surface. I do most of my trad climbing in the gunks and it felt totally different out here on sandstone. The rock formations and features are totally different, pro places differently, and there are some serious objectives (like epinephrine, which I tagged this time around) that are way bigger than anything we have back east.

Yeah it is pretty endless. You want to be fit though for sure. some long hikes in and out plus all the climbing.

crazycello
Jul 22, 2009
Fine - I'll play.


- A Todd Skinner 11a in Yangshuo at Moon Hill


- Doug Orr 12a in Skaha. My right foot didn't blow on the send, but this picture is more fun.

Wrr
Aug 8, 2010


So Tuesday I went to a beginners climber class at PetraCliffs (Burlington, VT). Cost about $100, but includes three days of teaching, three free day passes, and free equipment rentals for both. Not a bad deal at all. Finally got to top-rope and start learning how to belay; been ignoring that aspect of climbing cause I'm too cheap for a harness and don't have anyone to climb with.

Class members were pretty much all first time climbers, or people who had climbed only once before. Kinda felt out of place there having climbed since September. Starting to think maybe I'm not a Capital B Beginner, but I wanted the formal education of technique and stuff anyways. Even though it was their first time a lot of the climbers were attempting V1s, 2s, and a 2+ that I thiiiiink I know how to finish for when I head back.

But, man, yo, it's so much more fun climbing with a crew than by myself. We made a messenger groupchat and arranged for a climbing day Saturday, I'm so stoked for that and to try the top-roping problems that I couldn't do before.

Syncopated
Oct 21, 2010

Wrr posted:

So Tuesday I went to a beginners climber class at PetraCliffs (Burlington, VT). Cost about $100, but includes three days of teaching, three free day passes, and free equipment rentals for both. Not a bad deal at all. Finally got to top-rope and start learning how to belay; been ignoring that aspect of climbing cause I'm too cheap for a harness and don't have anyone to climb with.

Class members were pretty much all first time climbers, or people who had climbed only once before. Kinda felt out of place there having climbed since September. Starting to think maybe I'm not a Capital B Beginner, but I wanted the formal education of technique and stuff anyways. Even though it was their first time a lot of the climbers were attempting V1s, 2s, and a 2+ that I thiiiiink I know how to finish for when I head back.

But, man, yo, it's so much more fun climbing with a crew than by myself. We made a messenger groupchat and arranged for a climbing day Saturday, I'm so stoked for that and to try the top-roping problems that I couldn't do before.

If you took a (indoors?) top rope class 2 days ago you might want to keep the capital B a while longer climbing friend. Embrace it even!

Wrr
Aug 8, 2010


Syncopated posted:

If you took a (indoors?) top rope class 2 days ago you might want to keep the capital B a while longer climbing friend. Embrace it even!

Oh for sure I'm still a beginner, not trying to get ahead of myself or (too) cocky. I'm constantly asking people for advice in the boulder cave on how they do something or another, and I've started really trying to focus on technique to get into good habits. Even got a copy of The Self-Coached Climber!

Last Friday I took my sister out to Brooklyn Boulders to try and show her what I've been screaming about for the past few months. She managed to finish a V0 and was pretty proud of herself but didn't really take to climbing. The nerves in her right arm are pretty dead so she says its hard to tell how firm of a grip she has and her brain won't let her let go with the left arm. I told her I'd make her a pressure sensitive glove with pager-motor vibrators up the arm to over-come that, which she appreciated, but looks like climbing isn't for her :(

Also, thank god it was BOGO day passes there, cost like $32 for the pass alone! The place is big and really nice but mannnnn is that pricey. What are the prices at everyone's local gyms? Bouldering only runs me about $14 per day pass at Petra. Am I spoiled?

Wrr fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Dec 1, 2017

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
I think day passes at my gym are $25 or so? But monthly membership is around $80 so that’s a no brained since I go 2-3 times a week.

Wrr
Aug 8, 2010


COOL CORN posted:

I think day passes at my gym are $25 or so? But monthly membership is around $80 so that’s a no brained since I go 2-3 times a week.

I'm hoping to get to the point where I go more than once a week, but I've somehow managed to get a surprisingly full schedule and I'm not super sure if my muscles and tendons can handle it? Starting to think that bouldering once a week, but to the point of being incapable of climbing each time, isn't the best idea.

breaks
May 12, 2001

I’ve been climbing about the same amount of time as you and I’ve been able to work it up to 3 days a week. My first time going a second day in the same week I got like 3 or 4 easy climbs in before I had to call it because of what I guess was pretty intense tendon pain. But just get out there the extra day even if it’s only for a little bit and you’ll adapt pretty quickly. Even with 3 days now things have yet to hurt again like it did that first time doing a second day. Just don’t be a dumbass and try to keep climbing on sharp pains.

Prices at the gym I go to, ABP in Austin, are 16 for a day pass or 70 for the monthly membership. 10 visit punch cards are something like 80% of the day pass price.

MrKatharsis
Nov 29, 2003

feel the bern

PetraCliffs was where I first learned to climb and where I took my now wife on one of our first dates. This post makes me happy.

Awkward Davies
Sep 3, 2009
Grimey Drawer
Y'all should be careful. Tendonitis and other injuries are real easy to get. I climbed about 3x a week for the first year I was climbing, and then started getting injured. Tendonitis in my knee and then in both rotator cuffs. It sucked and still sucks.

If you climb that much, do the work to protect yourself. Do dynamic warmups before you get on the wall (bouldering is not a warm up). Make sure you're stretching and doing oppositional work. Climbing tightens everything. If you dont manage it will cause problems. Dont climb through pain.

RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!
Can confirm tendonitis in the shoulder / rotator cuff is a stubborn bastard and hurts like gently caress if you let it get too bad.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Wrr posted:

So Tuesday I went to a beginners climber class at PetraCliffs (Burlington, VT). Cost about $100, but includes three days of teaching, three free day passes, and free equipment rentals for both. Not a bad deal at all. Finally got to top-rope and start learning how to belay; been ignoring that aspect of climbing cause I'm too cheap for a harness and don't have anyone to climb with.

Class members were pretty much all first time climbers, or people who had climbed only once before. Kinda felt out of place there having climbed since September. Starting to think maybe I'm not a Capital B Beginner, but I wanted the formal education of technique and stuff anyways. Even though it was their first time a lot of the climbers were attempting V1s, 2s, and a 2+ that I thiiiiink I know how to finish for when I head back.

But, man, yo, it's so much more fun climbing with a crew than by myself. We made a messenger groupchat and arranged for a climbing day Saturday, I'm so stoked for that and to try the top-roping problems that I couldn't do before.

Hell yeah it is. I formed a bouldering meetup in Austin back in September and it has been one of the best decisions I've made this year. Met lots of fun, laid back people and we now hang out regularly.

Syncopated
Oct 21, 2010
It's ridiculous how impossible a move can feel right before you do it like nothing.

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord

Syncopated posted:

It's ridiculous how impossible a move can feel right before you do it like nothing.

That happened to me today. I was pumped, there was a hold right above a shelf that I thought there was no way I would reach. But I tiny-dyno'd up to it and stuck it and was like "huh, cool."

Then I failed and fell to the mat, but STILL.

RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!
I did my first ever proper big dyno today on a climbing route rather than a boulder problem. I had the exact same thing happen where I pretty much thought "well this is going to be tough, let's see what happens" and nailed it almost perfectly first time. Except I was so surprised that I actually made the distance that I completely fluffed the holding on when you get to the other end bit :downs:

Still felt pretty sweet though and I got it with a couple more tries. In retrospect it wasn't a particularly hard move but it's certainly different to what I'm used to!

Meaty Ore
Dec 17, 2011

My God, it's full of cat pictures!

I'm terrible at dynos. Every time I'm trying one at the gym it takes me a good five or six attempts to pull off.

Naturally, the two times I've faced dynos outside, I stuck them both. Problem is, if I had been using my feet properly, they would have been unnecessary.

Wrr
Aug 8, 2010


Spent 3.5 hours at the climbing gym this Saturday with some of the crew. I got to try out top-roping stuff for the first time and it really is just crazy different from bouldering (obviously, but still). There's just so many, like, options! I could feel myself knowing that I should be focusing on technique but getting overwhelmed at all the possible places I could move or use as holds. Gonna be great building up the beta planning skills.

Only did a 5.4 & 5.5, which are baby easy mode for sure, but even then just a world of difference from pure bouldering.

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Awkward Davies
Sep 3, 2009
Grimey Drawer
He's not dead and he drove himself to the hospital.

Article (WARNING: BLOOD AND STUFF) https://bkclimbing.wordpress.com/2017/08/31/my-climbing-accident/

https://i.imgur.com/btoFQWl.gifv

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