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The Crotch posted:Presumably: Carpenter, Verhoeven, Herzog, Curtis. Maybe Lynch? I think Matt is anti-Lynch
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Breadallelogram posted:I think Matt is anti-Lynch Matt reconfirmed as worst chapo
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Sephyr posted:Whedon's stuff never sat well with me. One of my GFs went to great lengths to try and get me into Buffy. I didn't think it was -bad-, just never found anything to hold my interest, bit it was still Dr. Horrible is a lot funnier after you realize the Joss Whedon self-insert character is Captain Hammer.
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sexpig by night posted:In many ways Stalin was the ultimate 'director' One of the latest TARFU Reports has the segment "Who Said It: David Mamet or Kim Jong-il?"
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Breadallelogram posted:I think Matt is anti-Lynch Matt kind of hates everything as far as I can tell, even the things he likes, and then himself for liking them. So what I'm saying is I strongly identify with Matt.
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super fart shooter posted:firefly was cool at the time because there weren't really any other space/sci-fi shows like that, but now that's not true anymore and even back then I thought the writing was really embarassing and bad. also it was really dumb and unimaginative how they took the "space western" concept so literally that every time they'd land on a planet everyone was riding around on horses wearing dusters and shooting old fashioned lever action rifles or whatever Dude, Firefly came out years after Cowboy Bebop and Outlaw Star. And it ripped off Outlaw Star hard. setting aside general tone or character archetype stuff that you could argue was just coincidental, the first episode being about a smuggler discovering that their cargo contains a strange black-haired girl cryogenically frozen in the fetal position who is wanted by the government because of their unique abilities is a pretty loving big coincidence   The biggest difference is that Outlaw Star is a good show. Guy Goodbody fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Dec 3, 2017 |
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Outlaw Star actually blended Western genre conventions with Asian spirituality and culture to make an interesting universe, as opposed to just having a bunch of white people swear in Chinese despite there not being a single asian person with a speaking role.
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I was mad about Firefly ripping off Outlaw Star when it came out, and I'm still mad about it now
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Guy Goodbody posted:Outlaw Star actually blended Western genre conventions with Asian spirituality and culture to make an interesting universe, as opposed to just having a bunch of white people swear in Chinese despite there not being a single asian person with a speaking role. yea it's weeby as poo poo but I genuinely liked Firefly better when it was called Outlaw Star because wow did Joss bite that hard, but worse. Outlaw wasn't perfect at its own run at the 'space western' style but yea at least it had more ambitions than 'we have the white guy say 'that's bullshit' in Mandarin sometimes between gunfights'.
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Guy Goodbody posted:Outlaw Star actually blended Western genre conventions with Asian spirituality and culture to make an interesting universe, as opposed to just having a bunch of white people swear in Chinese despite there not being a single asian person with a speaking role. In incredibly loving bad and painful to listen to Chinese at that.
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TetsuoTW posted:In incredibly loving bad and painful to listen to Chinese at that. *extremely took one Chinese cooking class voice* "This guy is sure full of *fàng pì* am I right fellow cool outlaw swear boys"
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Guy Goodbody posted:Outlaw Star actually blended Western genre conventions with Asian spirituality and culture to make an interesting universe, as opposed to just having a bunch of white people swear in Chinese despite there not being a single asian person with a speaking role. pagua sunfa, pagua sunfa, pagua sunfa, pagua sunfa, PAGUA SUNFA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KDyY6oH33g
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Sephyr posted:Agreed. Maybe it's just a personal chemistry thing. Gunn's mood shifts don't feel as cheap or melodramatic to me, mostly because he starts from a different place. Kubrick, the Coen Brothers Breadallelogram posted:I think Matt is anti-Lynch I don't know if he's anti-Lynch but it wouldn't surprise me if he was. He seems to dislike movies that deemphasize narrative and focus more on aesthetics, mood, and symbolism. For example he dislikes Blade Runner and most Refn films. He did give Bronson a positive review though. achillesforever6 posted:
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cat doter posted:alien covenant and shin godzilla are so dumb and broad and obvious that I get drat near shocked when people talk about them being good Shin Godzilla's a drat well-crafted film, the dialogue and editing are so snappy that it just flies, and to me it never felt like I was mostly watching boardroom meetings, because it's just blasting into the next scene. Also it's got a drat cool Godzilla redesign, and amazing city-leveling action. God drat I love Shin Godzilla.
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I'm going to quote my take on Shin Godzilla:Phobophilia posted:Just watched Shin on the plane. If there's a theme to it, the moral of the story is that they want to repeal article 9, not because they want to end accountability to the outside world, but because they want to take responsibility and stand as equals. It is all in the spirit of international cooperation, US drone strikes, French research labs, Chinese tankers. And they fight Godzilla with symbols of Japanese industrial might: chemical plants, trains, repurposed construction equipment. Guns and tanks and nukes were a mere distraction. If there is nationalism, it is not pernicious.
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I was not expecting the Chapo thread to suddenly and totally sell me on finally watching Outlaw Star, but gently caress it, the world works in strange ways. Also, Matt's right about Lynch. He's great, sure, but if you need to take a 300-level class on "How to properly understand whatever the gently caress you just saw", it's Not a Good Movie.
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If you're watching David Lynch under the impression that anything you witness is to be understood I think you're doing it wrong.
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Yeah, the people who try to tie all the threads together in work where he’s very explicit about it being an arbitrary dream world are funny.
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David Lynch constantly: "I create hosed up dreamscapes barely grounded in reality let alone continuity unless the story requires it. They're meant to be enjoyed alone as their own thing scene by scene." Every film student: "Right but what about my essay on why every project he's ever worked on are actually connected by rock solid tethers?"
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Those are film studies students, who the production kids laugh at.
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But they all do clearly have a thread behind them. Lost Highway for instance is clearly about a man being cucked.
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I find Lynch stuff super interesting but he himself describes his process as just coming up with interesting images and then using his intuition to build some kind of story around them on the fly. I understand why some people aren't into it.
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Bulkiest Toaster posted:But they all do clearly have a thread behind them. Lost Highway for instance is clearly about a man being cucked. all art is about a man being cucked, at the end of the day.
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At the bare bones of it Twin Peaks Season 3 is about a man being cucked by both an inferior and superior version of himself.
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This is the angriest Chapo ever. Just nonstop yelling.
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Breadallelogram posted:I find Lynch stuff super interesting but he himself describes his process as just coming up with interesting images and then using his intuition to build some kind of story around them on the fly. I understand why some people aren't into it. I think he's just being modest, a lot of people tell stories this way especially filmmakers, he's just more honest about it
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Goddamn 2018 is going to suck. Even if the Democrats retake the house and senate, by strong margins even, they're still gonna try to do a bill with GOP input.
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“This is at The Saban Forum” Felix: “I’m permabanned from that forum. I’m SettlementStomper58” Virgil: “Beat me by a second.”
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i hope theres a chapo take on the new will smith vehicle with orcs and elves and cops by the suicide squad dude because holy poo poo this is going to be insanely unwoke
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Phobophilia posted:i hope theres a chapo take on the new will smith vehicle with orcs and elves and cops by the suicide squad dude because holy poo poo this is going to be insanely unwoke what the gently caress that doesn't sound real
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cat doter posted:what the gently caress that doesn't sound real https://youtu.be/6EZCBSsBxko It's basically Shadowrun without the corporate overlords.
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Phobophilia posted:i hope theres a chapo take on the new will smith vehicle with orcs and elves and cops by the suicide squad dude because holy poo poo this is going to be insanely unwoke by suicide squad dude do you mean will smith
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scary ghost dog posted:by suicide squad dude do you mean will smith nah, david ayer is the director dude only knows how to make 1 movie but its a fuckin good movie
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Serf posted:nah, david ayer is the director
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