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hey girl you up posted:Apple required a 30% cut of all digital goods sold through their hardware. Amazon doesn't want to pay that, so they didn't make an Apple TV app. They don't want people going to competitors, so they stopped selling any streaming thing that doesn't do amazon stuff out of the box. That's a specious argument on Amazon's part. The same condition exists on iOS as well.
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Proteus Jones posted:That's a specious argument on Amazon's part. The same condition exists on iOS as well. Yeah and the iOS Prime Video app doesn't allow in app purchases [and the Kindle app too]. For some reason Amazon refuses for that the be the case on Apple TV.
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qirex posted:Yeah and the iOS Prime Video app doesn't allow in app purchases [and the Kindle app too]. For some reason Amazon refuses for that the be the case on Apple TV. they probably know that they can get away with it what with the apple tv not being super popular and all
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Dec 3, 2017 13:53
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qirex posted:Yeah and the iOS Prime Video app doesn't allow in app purchases [and the Kindle app too]. For some reason Amazon refuses for that the be the case on Apple TV. Apple disallowed other marketplaces in their apps a long time ago I believe.
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Dec 3, 2017 19:50
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Having the Prime Video app available on ATV will definitely help me tech support for my 70 something parents who now have my prior ATV2 and Amzn Fire HD and watch different shows on each, obviously, but greatly prefer the ATV format. I have both units as well for different TV's but would just go with ATV's from here on out as long as the Prime Video is available.
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TraderStav posted:Apple disallowed other marketplaces in their apps a long time ago I believe. Day 1 of the App Store, I think.
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Dec 3, 2017 21:52
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On iOS, you can open up a browser and go to Amazon.com and buy or rent content to be watched on the app later without Amazon having to fork over a percentage to Apple. Apple TVs don't have a browser, so they don't have an easy way to bypass Apple's commission. It's lame, but that's the root of the problem as far as I can tell. I thought when Apple announced Amazon Video would be coming to the ATV I figured they'd made some deal or another to make it happen, but it's been six months now and I haven't heard anything about why it's delayed.
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choobs posted:On iOS, you can open up a browser and go to Amazon.com and buy or rent content to be watched on the app later without Amazon having to fork over a percentage to Apple. Apple TVs don't have a browser, so they don't have an easy way to bypass Apple's commission. It's lame, but that's the root of the problem as far as I can tell. I thought when Apple announced Amazon Video would be coming to the ATV I figured they'd made some deal or another to make it happen, but it's been six months now and I haven't heard anything about why it's delayed. "technically" it's not yet delayed. It was announced by years end and there's 2 weeks left before the iTunes shutdown.
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Dec 5, 2017 01:19
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What's this annoying "pre-home screen" screen that suddenly has shown up on my Apple TV and how do I disable it? It's the iTunes store perhaps, but I quickly tap the home button again to get away from it, so I'm not completely sure.
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Xabi posted:What's this annoying "pre-home screen" screen that suddenly has shown up on my Apple TV and how do I disable it? It's the iTunes store perhaps, but I quickly tap the home button again to get away from it, so I'm not completely sure. Go to Settings>Remote and change the Home Button to "Home Screen". It's likely set to "TV app"
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Dec 5, 2017 15:24
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Perfect, thank you!
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11.2 is out and the ability to match frame rate and color range to the content is available.
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qirex posted:11.2 is out and the ability to match frame rate and color range to the content is available. Updating my regular non-4K atv now to check because no bastard on the internet wants to say if it works or not on the old one. —— Aannndddd it doesn’t loving work. God drat it Apple.
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qirex posted:11.2 is out and the ability to match frame rate and color range to the content is available.
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The sports feature in the TV app is legit. Let’s you set up your favorite teams in each sport, also just has whatever is live right now there for you to browse.
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Dec 6, 2017 02:24
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qirex posted:11.2 is out and the ability to match frame rate and color range to the content is available. This is a goddamn clusterfuck with Netflix. Every time the streaming quality changes, my TV spends 3-4 seconds changing modes, and Netflix is changing the streaming quality every 2-3 minutes, and occasionally multiple times within 30 seconds. (Netflix seems to be unable to stream at any reasonable quality tonight despite my 200mbit connection. I'm trying to watch Civil War which should be 4K, but it's fluctuating between what looks like 480p and 720p and occasionally 1080p when I'm lucky.)
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Choadmaster posted:This is a goddamn clusterfuck with Netflix. Every time the streaming quality changes, my TV spends 3-4 seconds changing modes, and Netflix is changing the streaming quality every 2-3 minutes, and occasionally multiple times within 30 seconds. (Netflix seems to be unable to stream at any reasonable quality tonight despite my 200mbit connection. I'm trying to watch Civil War which should be 4K, but it's fluctuating between what looks like 480p and 720p and occasionally 1080p when I'm lucky.) I might be totally talking out my rear end, but I thought there was a way to lock the frame rate from the Netflix website. Can anyone confirm that?
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Mahoning posted:I might be totally talking out my rear end, but I thought there was a way to lock the frame rate from the Netflix website. I'd be surprised, but if so I'll be happy to hear it. I gave up on Netflix and am currently playing a local copy through Plex. Much better. If Plex ever starts properly supporting 4K (or Infuse stops giving me audio sync issues) I'll be even happier.
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Dec 6, 2017 05:55
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Proteus Jones posted:That's a specious argument on Amazon's part. The same condition exists on iOS as well. To follow up, apparently Google decided today that they've had enough and will be blocking Amazon's stuff from accessing youtube starting in 2018: Google posted:“We’ve been trying to reach agreement with Amazon to give consumers access to each other’s products and services. But Amazon doesn’t carry Google products like Chromecast and Google Home, doesn’t make Prime Video available for Google Cast users, and last month stopped selling some of Nest’s latest products. Given this lack of reciprocity, we are no longer supporting YouTube on Echo Show and FireTV. We hope we can reach an agreement to resolve these issues soon.” http://variety.com/2017/digital/news/google-blocks-youtube-fire-tv-echo-show-1202631248/
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That's going to turn in to quite the slap fight. : You're loving up our brand on the Echo Screen and we're already pissed at you for banning Chromecast and Google Home from being sold. : *flips switch* There. No more YouTube on Echo Screen. : *creates a workaround to access YouTube on the Echo Screen guaranteed to piss off Google* : *yanks Nest products from store* : That is loving it. You're violating the ToS for YouTube. We're blocking all your poo poo from getting to YouTube. : *takes all the toys and runs home* : Oh, and Apple. gently caress YOU WE WERE JUST KIDDING. PRIME VIDEO IS NEVER COMING. : Our developers have a working prototype. We're going to demo it on... well, not YouTube I guess. Maybe Vimeo. Then we'll DELETE ALL THE CODE.~fin~
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Proteus Jones posted:
Nailed it.
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Dec 6, 2017 12:45
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MacRumors says the Amazon Prime Video app is up now. I'm too lazy to check myself. https://www.macrumors.com/2017/12/06/amazon-prime-video-app-launches-on-apple-tv/
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Well, gently caress me. They released it. e: fb^^  I couldn't find it directly. But I opened up the Amazon Shopping app and scrolled to the bottom and sure as poo poo "Prime Video" is listed as "other apps by AMZN" Neither "Amazon Prime", "Amazon video" nor "Prime video" return results yet when searching in the store. But it's there. I just downloaded it. EDIT2: It works. You can either log in directly (ugh) or register the Apple TV using a computer. I'm currently watching RiffTrax: Dr Who Dalek's Invasion Earth 2150AD via Prime Video on my Apple TV. Oh Frabjous day! Proteus Jones fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Dec 6, 2017 |
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Is the interface poo poo like on every other device?
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business hammocks posted:Is the interface poo poo like on every other device? Oh, yeah. It's consistent, I'll give them that. Video playback controls seem pretty bog-standard AppleTV, thought.
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Does anyone here have experience using the TV app with something like Hulu Live, Sling, DirectTV Now, Vue...etc? Looking at adding live tv (currently have netflix, hulu, prime) and like the idea of starting to centralize all our crap into one app. Mainly I'm looking at Hulu Live since we already have Hulu, but I'm not the biggest fan of their interface.
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Ouhei posted:Does anyone here have experience using the TV app with something like Hulu Live, Sling, DirectTV Now, Vue...etc?
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business hammocks posted:Is the interface poo poo like on every other device? Fortunately the Prime app seems to support both the TV app and its search feature, so the amount of time you need to spend using the app itself should be quite minimal.
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Endless Mike posted:It definitely does not work with DirecTV Now. I'd be surprised if it worked with any others. That's weird, it lists DIRECTV as an option in the TV Provider sign in, but maybe that just means normal DIRECTV. It also lists Hulu, Vue and Sling as options so I assumed they worked...maybe I'll just set up the Hulu trial and give it a whirl.
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Proteus Jones posted:Video playback controls seem pretty bog-standard AppleTV, thought. Powers of two FF/REW speeds? Sure!
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Choadmaster posted:This is a goddamn clusterfuck with Netflix. Every time the streaming quality changes, my TV spends 3-4 seconds changing modes, and Netflix is changing the streaming quality every 2-3 minutes, and occasionally multiple times within 30 seconds. (Netflix seems to be unable to stream at any reasonable quality tonight despite my 200mbit connection. I'm trying to watch Civil War which should be 4K, but it's fluctuating between what looks like 480p and 720p and occasionally 1080p when I'm lucky.) My understanding is that all 4k HDR TVs do this when the rate or dynamic range changes and this black screen annoyance was the reason that Apple launched with a fixed rate and HDR no matter the content. Now that you can unlock those things this is the trade off. Netflix bad streaming quality is a different issue though.
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Ouhei posted:That's weird, it lists DIRECTV as an option in the TV Provider sign in, but maybe that just means normal DIRECTV. It also lists Hulu, Vue and Sling as options so I assumed they worked...maybe I'll just set up the Hulu trial and give it a whirl. The TV provider log-in is just so you can use a single sign-in for apps. Supposedly. It lets you log into DTVN, but that doesn't seem to actually *do* anything, though I suppose it's so if they ever allow single sign-in with it, it'll Just Work. In any case, it doesn't have anything to do with how the TV app functions.
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Ouhei posted:Does anyone here have experience using the TV app with something like Hulu Live, Sling, DirectTV Now, Vue...etc? What's cool about TV is that if you search for something it will ask you which app to watch it in, regardless of whether you've downloaded the app in question, so it's clued me in to a bunch of cable channel apps (TBS, FX, etc.) having on-demand movies that I wouldn't really have expected. So it's a decent supplement/alternative to Netflix in that regard, though you'll naturally be getting some search results that only have a paid option, if nothing else is hosting the content. So I've just signed into a bunch of stuff and thrown it in a folder, and occasionally I'll check out the TV app to see what's there.
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Yeah I’ve really started digging the TV App lately. It keeps track of my next Sopranos episode so I don’t have to dig through 4 layers in the HBO app. I was also browsing it just last night and it had a holiday movies section that was kind of nice and a bunch of movies my wife loves that aren’t on Netflix or anything are on the Freeform app. And I’ll put up with commercials if it’s just something I’ve seen before and want to throw on in the background.
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Tied into the post 2 above that mentions on demand movies on cable channels... I’ve always presumed these are the hacked to ribbons versions that air on the respective channels, but is this the case? I never watch movies on cable for precisely that reason, I caught some of Superbad on one the other day and they literally must’ve reshot half he scenes to have alternate dialogue to all the swearing. An ADR job wouldn’t have been that clean.
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All is good in the Apple TV 4k world now. This thing rocks after 11.2.
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Minidust posted:The "TV" app is explicitly for on-demand stuff, so it doesn't really interact with live TV services in any meaningful way. I'm not sure if this is true now. Maybe it's an iOS only feature, but the TV on the phone now includes a Sports tab that works with apps like ESPN to stream live sports.
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Wish Plex supported the Siri search.
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canyonero posted:I'm not sure if this is true now. Maybe it's an iOS only feature, but the TV on the phone now includes a Sports tab that works with apps like ESPN to stream live sports. Yeah, that's one of the biggest hopes I have for it in terms of tying in a live service, easier way to find games when they're on!
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:Wish Plex supported the Siri search. I don't think it will in the foreseeable future; the universal Siri search doesn't search local libraries. Just whatever is on its master list. (Doesn't work with Apple's own home sharing either.)
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