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e.pilot posted:Well yeah but I meant in a general sense of the whole crash. Looking closer at it, it looks like engine #1 was shut down and feathered before the crash, it’s the only prop undamaged. http://www.americanairmuseum.com/aircraft/10955 quote:Delivered Tulsa 23/3/44; 88BG Hunter 18/5/44; Dow Fd 29/5/44; Assigned 324BS/91BG [DF-F] Bassingbourn 15/6/44; 50+m lost engine en route Fassberg A/fd 4/4/45 with Edgar Moyer, on return crash landed base when u/c collapsed; repaired & transferred 600BS/398BG [N8-R] Nuthampstead; mission to French bridges 8/7/44 with Curtis Lovelace, Co-pilot: Bob Hart, Navigator: Bob Uhl, Bombardier: Alton Andrews, Flight engineer/top turret gunner: Bob Rees, Radio Operator: Cliff Weatherwax, Ball turret gunner: Gerard Antaillia, Waist gunner: Phil Fritech,Tail gunner: Sam Miller (9 Returned to Duty); forced to bail out over Essex on return and crash landed Chelsworth, Suffolk; repaired and transferred 306BG 5/45. LITTLE MISS MISCHIEF.
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Nebakenezzer posted:It doesn't look bad to me, for whatever that's worth. What's your project? I'm doing a small audio piece on the Sas and they used Bristol Bombays early on. Also ty to that other guy that was a great explanation.
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I would have gone with this bit Markings and paint scheme/livery Tony Starcer noseart. Aircraft suffered significant damage, and was repaired with parts from another aircraft, to include the fuselage rear of the radio room, and the right outer wing. Various cowlings were replaced as well, creating a colorful and diverse aircraft. Repair is said to have included parts from 13 different aircraft to keep Little Miss Mischief airworthy. Main fuselage parts added believed to have come from "Walleroo Mk. 2" from 303rd BG, serial number 42-31405. Was later transferred to the 306th BG, and finished the war completing over 50 missions
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bewbies posted:The metallurgy thing was a much bigger deal for the airframe; the Russians didn't have some of the cutting edge stuff Boeing had access to, but they were damned if they weren't going to copy that thing rivet for rivet, so instead of modifying the design they just lowered the strength requirements, because Russia. The article says otherwise: quote:Early on, Tupolev decided not to convert the U.S. units to the metric system, which would have been time consuming. The manufacture of aluminum panels exemplified the problem. The standard thickness of the aluminum skin on the B-29 was 1/16 of an inch (1.5875 millimeters). It was impossible for Soviet plants to fabricate metal sheets to that dimension. Tupolev opted to vary the thickness of the Tu-4’s skin between .8 and 1.8 millimeters, which actually had the effect of strengthening the aircraft’s structure in some areas. Despite such changes, the weight of the Tu-4 would turn out to be only one percent greater than the B-29. Sure, "strengthening in some areas" doesn't disprove "lowered the strength requirements". It sounds like it wasn't necessarily dumb 
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Anyone know what this... thing is? A friend of mine shot it near Schipol Airport.
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My guess is a firefighter training plane. Offers practice for second deck, tailfin engine, and the standard other stuff, all in one rig. I could well be wrong though
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I figured it might be a building or training thing. Whatever it is it's amazingly ugly.
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:Anyone know what this... thing is? A friend of mine shot it near Schipol Airport. It's a fire trainer e:A better video, especially if you can speak Dutch
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Thanks! Those videos own.
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Buttcoin purse posted:The article says otherwise: This is accurate; the B-29s skin was just regular aluminum. The strength compromises came on the spar and longerons that had some sort of crazy new alloy.
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Little Miss Mischief is probably the most distinctive B-17. But there's also these two:  A handful of B-17s had to land in Switzerland during the war, and the Swiss impounded them, and then put Swiss markings on them. Sources I've seen disagree over whether this was done specifically for the return ferry flights. EDIT: Color drawings.  
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So Canada needs more fighters to be a band-aid for our 30+ year old F18s until the government finally decides what its going to do for the next gen. Their answer? MORE 30+ year old F18s with documented fatigue problems because of the current pissing match with Boeing  http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/boeing-canada-used-jets-interest-1.4434527
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Speaking of Boeing, Delta appears to have figured out a way around the tariff issue by having Aeromexico (which it owns ~half of) buy the jets instead. Amazes me that so many people believe that other countries dumping is bad for us and good for them, when in fact it's the other way around. If the Quebec government wants to pay Americans to fly in CSeries jets we should let them. Oh well. The Mexicans get to ride them instead. Winning!
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Why don't they just buy Rafales? Or better yet, license build them at Bombardier? Comedy option: Sidewinders on a CRJ-200?
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0toShifty posted:Why don't they just buy Rafales? Or better yet, license build them at Bombardier? Even worse: mail the enemy tickets for CRJ-200 rides.
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Cocoa Crispies posted:Even worse: mail the enemy tickets for CRJ-200 rides. Pretty sure that violates the Geneva Convention.
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Mortabis posted:Speaking of Boeing, Delta appears to have figured out a way around the tariff issue by having Aeromexico (which it owns ~half of) buy the jets instead. The US trade court should rule that the tariffs will only be applied if Boeing makes MD designs again
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slidebite posted:So Canada needs more fighters to be a band-aid for our 30+ year old F18s until the government finally decides what its going to do for the next gen. Came here to post this This is fallen down the memory hole, but what was the original date to have the last CF-18s out of service? 2020? Also: Davies shipyard does a good job trolling the pols
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0toShifty posted:Why don't they just buy Rafales? Or better yet, license build them at Bombardier? TBH, the French seemed ready to make some sort of deal like that. Honestly, I'd just get the French to build 'em, they are good at it
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Nebakenezzer posted:un-survivable damage, B-17 edition:  What the hell's the story on that?
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Zemyla posted:
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Crosspost:mlmp08 posted:Top Gun 2: Aggressor squadron still rocking A-4s tactlessbastard posted:Flak. 
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0toShifty posted:Why don't they just buy Rafales? Or better yet, license build them at Bombardier? I've said this before, but the CRJ-200 will happily fly inverted in the sim.
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Nebakenezzer posted:Came here to post this The original date? As in the original, original date as stated by the NFA program back in 1982? Because that would be 2007.
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mlmp08 posted:Crosspost: I'm sure real missile shots would make it irrelevant but there is kind of a hilarious speed differential between an F-22 dropping out of 40k like Thor's hammer and a couple of A-4s at low level.
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Zemyla posted:
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Small imagedump of culled images. Honestly lots of them are really good, but the organization is poo poo, so I just save the ones I find particularly striking: Early chemtrail experiment:    NASA's B-52. I think they gave it back.   I'm not sure of the story, but this B-29 landed on a beach. At low tide, I guess  P. sure this is a jettison of a empty B-17 ball turret:      Nose art [permissible]:                 
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The Hiller Rotorcycle is so cool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNxLc6UQzjo
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~Coxy posted:Is that a prototype B-36 with no JATO? Even better, that's when they replaced the giant wheels with tank treads.
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Platystemon posted:The Hiller Rotorcycle is so cool. They have one at the Hiller museum in San Mateo, and the placards there suggest that the four-minute assembly was extremely optimistic, and a more realistic figure might be half an hour by someone who was already familiar with the machine and who wasn't being shot at by the enemy and who hadn't been injured in a recent plane crash or ejection event. Neat idea, though.
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Sagebrush posted:They have one at the Hiller museum in San Mateo, and the placards there suggest that the four-minute assembly was extremely optimistic, and a more realistic figure might be half an hour by someone who was already familiar with the machine and who wasn't being shot at by the enemy and who hadn't been injured in a recent plane crash or ejection event. I want to know whether four minutes is possible at the racing pit crew level or if it’s complete and utter BS. If they weren’t shooting at you before the Rotorcycle dropped, they will be shooting at you after it drops. They covet the Rotorcycle.   Imagine a world where this won the contract and not the ubiquitous Huey.
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:Anyone know what this... thing is? A friend of mine shot it near Schipol Airport. My freakishly large cock requires unconventional transportation
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Something about the cockpit windows and rediciously deep fuselage makes me wonder if this is a visitor from some other timeline where the Italians still had money and resources in the later parts of WW2.
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An-22 taking off and landing at Gander, after delivering (and/or picking up) parts to the A-380 that had an engine failure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEKcaUloIaQ Doesn't quite convey the loudness, but it sure has a characteristic signature. Sounds a bit like a 70s Soviet sci-fi movie dubbed with modular synth sound effects.
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An An-124 woke me up 45 minutes ago on final into Dulles. Thanks Volga-Dnepr!
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Ola posted:An-22 taking off and landing at Gander, after delivering (and/or picking up) parts to the A-380 that had an engine failure. That is such a cool, just, chunky rear end plane and  that doppler effect on takeoff it's like a tron recognizer meets the worlds worst room fan.
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~Coxy posted:Is that a prototype B-36 with no JATO? The XB-36, YB-36, B-36A and B-36B were built without J47 pods. 86 airplanes, by Wikipedia’s count. Most were converted to later variants with the jet engines.
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