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I must disagree with my colleague, Mr. Knapfstein. His bill creates an unaccountable body with excessive power. The TRC, as set up in my act, is completely transparent, as all proceedings are mandated to be broadcast live over SCN and made available to the public. The TJC, as set up in his act, has no such provisions. It would effectively function as a secret court with the power of judge, jury, and executioner. The TRC deals with cases that are brought forward by the victims, ensuring justice is prioritized around restoring the property and dignity of the victim. The TJC is not set up to deal victim-oriented restorative justice, rather, it may investigate anything it wishes, including crimes committed with no connection to the Old Regime by anyone who happened to work with them at any point. This opens the door for abuse. The TRC is accountable to Parliament, so if the behavior of a counsellor is found to be unsatisfactory, we may recall that counsellor. The TJC is accountable only to the Minister of Justice, and while we all respect our soon-to-be Justice Minister's judgement, we need more voices and more accountability. Overall, the TJA represents an overreach of power by the Ministry of Justice. Did we learn nothing from the Old Regime? That sort of vast, unchecked power doled out to a small number of individuals several layers removed from any popular vote is what allowed Vallstein and his cronies to loot our nation for decades. We need a body that focuses on alleviating the hardship of the victim, and isn't susceptible to the abuse and corruption that plagued us in the past. That body can be established by the Truth and Reconciliation Act.
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Comrade Bookchin Comrades, allow me to introduce the The PEOPLES ASSEMBLY Act: quote:PEOPLES ASSEMBLY ACT posted:
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The drafting phase is now over. From now until the end of the voting phase, you are prohibited from editing any of the bills and motions submitted for Parliament's consideration. Now, each player MP can vote to either Support or Oppose each individual bill, amendment and motion, with the default being Abstain. At the end of the voting phase, I will determine the NPCs' votes in accordance with their party affiliation and party type, or their goals and motivations if they are major NPCs. Remember that most legislation requires a simple majority of votes to pass, meaning a majority of the votes that aren't Abstain, so if you want to prevent something from passing, make sure to actually vote Oppose. To compensate for the fact that all of the votes happen simultaneously from a game mechanics perspective, you can make conditional votes. For example, you can declare that you vote to Support Bill A only if Bill B passes, and Abstain or even Oppose it otherwise. Please use a conditional vote only if you feel that it is absolutely necessary, because if there are too many of them things can quickly spiral into conditions that are difficult for me to evaluate (e.g. MP 1 will vote in favor of Bill A only if Bill B passes, and MP 2 will vote in favor of Bill B only if Bill A passes, and both of them are the decisive votes for the respective bills). The voting phase will last until Thursday the 7th of December at 12:30 UTC
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With thanks to the speaker, here is the list of proposals for this voting phase: 1. A Motion of Confidence for the formation of government under Comrade Luxembourg from the SRLF. 2. The SIRTRAK Act, proposed by Member Radek of the SRLF. 3. The SISTER Act, proposed by Member Bookchin of the SRLF. 4. The Census Act, proposed by Member Subtallier of the Unity Coalition, along with associated amendments with Member Danube of the FDG (each amendment needs to be voted on separately). 5. The Care and Shelter Act, proposed by Member Hughes of Dawn. 6. The Sirtan Budget Office Act, proposed by Member Vanderbush 7. The Outer Alliance Resolution, proposed by Member Vanderbush. 8. Bill F-1, also known as the Tax Enforcement Act, proposed by ReSeAu Gen of the UCS. 9. Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition, proposed by Amnesty of the Community (requires 61 votes to pass). 10. The Truth and Reconciliation Act, proposed by Member Danube of the FDG. 11. The Truth and Justice Act, proposed by Member Knapfstein of the DAL. 12. The PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act, proposed by Member Bookchin of the SRLF. AFancyQuestionMark fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Dec 5, 2017 |
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(OOC: Crap, sorry, couldn't find the energy yesterday for sci-fi politics. Asking for a dispensation to get in a health bill, unrelated to any other things going on?)
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1. A Motion of Confidence for the formation of government under Comrade Luxembourg from the SRLF. Support. I look forward to working with all of you. 2. The SIRTRAK Act, proposed by Member Radek of the SRLF. I Support this act on its merits, but I strongly believe that it is going to face further difficulties due to the current state of the managing company, and fully expect to have further bills passed on this matter. 3. The SISTER Act, proposed by Member Bookchin of the SRLF. Oppose. Section 1 of the SISTER Act I am skeptical of the utility of, but am willing to see the experiment played out. Section 2 I support wholeheartedly. Section 3, however, seems like a gross overreach by the SRLF. The plurality that they have won in this first election should not be construed as a mandate to make their own ideology mandatory education in our school systems, and until that section is stripped or drastically reworked, I cannot possibly support this bill. 4. The Census Act, proposed by Member Subtallier of the Unity Coalition, along with associated amendments with Member Danube of the FDG (each amendment needs to be voted on separately). I strongly Support this measure, and furthermore I support all three amendments proposed by Member Danube. Accurate information is key to proper government. 5. The Care and Shelter Act, proposed by Member Hughes of Dawn. I Conditionally Support the CSA, on the condition that the Sirtan Budget Office Act first be passed, and that the SBO score be in line with Member Hughes' estimates. 6. The Sirtan Budget Office Act, proposed by Member Vanderbush Predictably, I Support my own measure. 7. The Outer Alliance Resolution, proposed by Member Vanderbush. In recognition that the wording of this resolution was flawed, I hereby Abstain from this vote. I will seek to reintroduce this bill later, after initial inquiries with the Outer Alliance have been completed. 8. Bill F-1, also known as the Tax Enforcement Act, proposed by ReSeAu Gen of the UCS. I Support this measure. So long as tax evasion is allowed to run rampant, we cannot adequately raise funds as a government. 9. Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition, proposed by Amnesty of the Community (requires 61 votes to pass). I absolutely Oppose this amendment. We have ratified this constitution, and successfully held democratic elections in the wake of a revolution. To immediately start trying to rewrite our own constitution before we have even formally formed a government is utter nonsense that will only serve to feed turmoil and lessen our government's perceived legitimacy. Let us first show that we can abide by our own rules before seeking to change them. 10. The Truth and Reconciliation Act, proposed by Member Danube of the FDG. I strongly Support this proposal. It is an even-handed approach that I believe is well-designed to serve true justice over emotional gratification. I understand this is a bitter pill to swallow for some, and acknowledge that my personal involvement with the revolution was distant, and not so charged as the brave members of the militia. But we must move past those times, and allow those wounds to heal for Sirta to truly prosper. 11. The Truth and Justice Act, proposed by Member Knapfstein of the DAL. Even were I not supporting the Truth and Reconciliation Act, I would Oppose this bill. The Vallstein and Greene administrations being answerable to precisely nobody is what put us in this mess in the first place. I'll not watch another such power be created at our government's outset, particularly not one so clearly motivated by simple vengeance. 12. The PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act, proposed by Member Bookchin of the SRLF. I Oppose this measure as it is presently written. While I appreciate that it allows for the status quo, I think that rewriting the structure of all local governments is an overreach. Were this written as allowing communities to opt in to this alternative method of governance, I could perhaps support it. As an opt-out policy, I feel I cannot.
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Comrade Bookchin I am disheartened to see outright falsehoods come about for my bills, so Rutherford Vandberbush as I will be retorting to some of your inaccurate statements: The Lord of Hats posted:Oppose. Section 1 of the SISTER Act I am skeptical of the utility of, but am willing to see the experiment played out. Section 2 I support wholeheartedly. Section 3, however, seems like a gross overreach by the SRLF. The plurality that they have won in this first election should not be construed as a mandate to make their own ideology mandatory education in our school systems, and until that section is stripped or drastically reworked, I cannot possibly support this bill. I am saddened to see this kind of a response AFTER we have moved into a drafting phase. I do not question your character on this matter, but I do question the timing on the request to change the language of the bill. For section one, I would refer to our colleagues in the FDG, who requested that to be included into our education reform bill. We at the SLRF wholeheartedly agree that trade skills are necessary especially in the aftermath of our revolution. As for Section 3, I was more than willing to have additional classes included, as a well rounded civic education is essential to every Sirtan, but not one member here spoke up before the time to include additional classes into the act had passed. We can work to address deficiencies in the future, but I would hate to see this much needed education bill tanked because of one or more politician's aversion to citizens learning how to organize their communities better and participate in a free and open democracy. The Lord of Hats posted:I Oppose this measure as it is presently written. While I appreciate that it allows for the status quo, I think that rewriting the structure of all local governments is an overreach. Were this written as allowing communities to opt in to this alternative method of governance, I could perhaps support it. As an opt-out policy, I feel I cannot. If you were well aware of the situation in our local cities and rural areas and how they are being governed, you would know that this bill is actually an affirmation to new form of local governments already formed in the wake of the revolution, of which many were started and still supported by the CLF. These assemblies, in some rural areas ARE the status quo for free and open democracy! The other more "regular" forms are dens of corruption held by criminal organizations or the remnants of Greene's thugs. While I admit that holding free and fair elections should minimize corruptive influences, it is of my opinion that the structures themselves leave itself open to future corruption. We are merely giving those options to Sirtans who wish to self determinate.
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HiHo ChiRho posted:I am saddened to see this kind of a response AFTER we have moved into a drafting phase. I do not question your character on this matter, but I do question the timing on the request to change the language of the bill. For section one, I would refer to our colleagues in the FDG, who requested that to be included into our education reform bill. We at the SLRF wholeheartedly agree that trade skills are necessary especially in the aftermath of our revolution. As for Section 3, I was more than willing to have additional classes included, as a well rounded civic education is essential to every Sirtan, but not one member here spoke up before the time to include additional classes into the act had passed. We can work to address deficiencies in the future, but I would hate to see this much needed education bill tanked because of one or more politician's aversion to citizens learning how to organize their communities better and participate in a free and open democracy. I said I was skeptical of section 1, but was willing to see how it worked out in practice. It has little to do with why I voted the way I did. And as for the matter of not speaking sooner, I do apologize, but this is a busy time for us all, and I found myself without the time to properly voice my concerns. Education is a serious and sorely needed matter, yes, but it is not so urgent that we must immediately pass this bill without time for further revisions. If we are to do this thing, we must do it right, and I do not believe a politically-charged syllabus is part of that. quote:If you were well aware of the situation in our local cities and rural areas and how they are being governed, you would know that this bill is actually an affirmation to new form of local governments already formed in the wake of the revolution, of which many were started and still supported by the CLF. These assemblies, in some rural areas ARE the status quo for free and open democracy! The other more "regular" forms are dens of corruption held by criminal organizations or the remnants of Greene's thugs. While I admit that holding free and fair elections should minimize corruptive influences, it is of my opinion that the structures themselves leave itself open to future corruption. We are merely giving those options to Sirtans who wish to self determinate. In a handful of rural areas, yes, that is the case. In many more areas, including Sirta's cities--more populous and diverse than the areas you speak of, and facing an entirely different set of challenges and needs--it is not. If the option is presented to them to organize in such a way, and they choose to, more power to them. But I do not believe a mandate from the central government is the correct way to enact such a change. If the SLRF truly believes this is the correct way forward, provide the option, let regions choose, and allow the results to speak for themselves. But do not force a shift in the status quo.
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I'll be honest, I don't see what part of the proposed education initiatives are "politically charged", unless you're referring to the civics classes which are just Democracy 101, something sorely needed right now.
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Dr Xavier Dubois I do apologize for my lateness. There were bills I was working on, yet time snuck up on me. Shameful. Still, I will not delay on the votes. 1. A Motion of Confidence for the formation of government under Comrade Luxembourg from the SRLF. I Support this. I will give it my all. 2: 2. The SIRTRAK Act, proposed by Member Radek of the SRLF. I Support this. The people have clearly said they wanted different ways of handling things, and that is what we will try out now. We'll monitor it closely, and try to make sure it becomes a success. 3. The SISTER Act, proposed by Member Bookchin of the SRLF. I Support this. I hope to later perhaps add some more support ofr higher education, especially in the field of bio research, where we have a reputation that I would like to maintain. As to the third part, I can see where Mr. Vanderbusch comes from, but I disagree that this is problematic. Yes. Children will be taught how to run a worker's co-op. Quite frankly, it might be a skill they will have to use. We teach children the basics of entrepreneurship as well, and Bookchil assured me that those are not going anywhere. The presence of socialism based ways of organizing economically in the curriculum is not a sign of indoctrination, rather, considering the current movements of our economy, its absence would be politically motivated, and also potentially ill chosen, as there is a very real chance those children will have to deal with Worker Coops in their future, if these methods succeed. 4. The Census Act, proposed by Member Subtallier of the Unity Coalition, along with associated amendments with Member Danube of the FDG (each amendment needs to be voted on separately). All three amendements Supported 5. The Care and Shelter Act, proposed by Member Hughes of Dawn. I fully support this 6. The Sirtan Budget Office Act, proposed by Member Vanderbush I support this motion. This can only aid in transparancy. 7. The Outer Alliance Resolution, proposed by Member Vanderbush. I will oppose this for now. This feels somewhat rushed, but I will be glad to revisit it later with more information. 8. Bill F-1, also known as the Tax Enforcement Act, proposed by ReSeAu Gen of the UCS. I will support this. The lights must be kept on, and there are a lot of things to pay for. 9. Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition, proposed by Amnesty of the Community (requires 61 votes to pass). I do oppose this. While the undemocratic nature of the Guardian Appointed seats is undeniable, the divided nature of the Guardians who appoint them make it unlikely they will form a united block that will take power, but they might cause some stability in the initial years. In the fullness of time, when it is clear that this new democracy is stable and well on its feer, we could revisit this. As it is, I cannot help but think that Guardian Councils might have stopped a man like Vallstein. And it seems unfitting to start meddling with the car's engine on its first ride. 10. The Truth and Reconciliation Act, proposed by Member Danube of the FDG. I Support this. It is no secret that I am in favour of letting some crimes go unpunished if the punishment would risk greater suffering, but if we are to be thorough in our punishing, this seems like the most even handed approach that will minimize innocent lives lost 11. The Truth and Justice Act, proposed by Member Knapfstein of the DAL. This sadly, does not. I must oppose bill. 12. The PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act, proposed by Member Bookchin of the SRLF. After good conversations with members of the SRLF, and thorough reading, I will not let a few quibbles about the exact execution get in the way of an undertaking that, while perhaps not always practical, is eminently democratic and transparent. We'll have to keep an eye on it, make sure there's no abuses with it. But I do support this.
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1. A Motion of Confidence for the formation of government under Comrade Luxembourg from the SRLF. We oppose the composition of the current government, due to the concerns raised earlier 2. The SIRTRAK Act, proposed by Member Radek of the SRLF. We support this 3. The SISTER Act, proposed by Member Bookchin of the SRLF. We support this 4. The Census Act, proposed by Member Subtallier of the Unity Coalition, along with associated amendments with Member Danube of the FDG (each amendment needs to be voted on separately). We support this 5. The Care and Shelter Act, proposed by Member Hughes of Dawn. We support this 6. The Sirtan Budget Office Act, proposed by Member Vanderbush We support this 7. The Outer Alliance Resolution, proposed by Member Vanderbush. We oppose this, theres no reason to become entangled in foreign politics so quickly 8. Bill F-1, also known as the Tax Enforcement Act, proposed by ReSeAu Gen of the UCS. We support this 9. Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition, proposed by Amnesty of the Community (requires 61 votes to pass). We support this 10. The Truth and Reconciliation Act, proposed by Member Danube of the FDG. I cannot quite speak for the others on this. The Community as a whole would prefer a more local and popular means of judging these cases. I personally support this act. 11. The Truth and Justice Act, proposed by Member Knapfstein of the DAL. The same issues we have with the Truth and Reconciliation Act are present with The Truth and Justice Act. I personally support this act. 12. The PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act, proposed by Member Bookchin of the SRLF. We support this
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1. A Motion of Confidence for the formation of government under Comrade Luxembourg from the SRLF. I Support this, and I welcome the opportunity to work with our coalition partners to build a more free and prosperous Sirta. 2. The SIRTRAK Act, proposed by Member Radek of the SRLF. I Support this. 3. The SISTER Act, proposed by Member Bookchin of the SRLF. I Support this. While I share Member Vanderbush's concerns regarding the potential of the mandated civic education to serve as political indoctrination, I believe in the necessity of helping the people adjust to Democratic norms and traditions, and I trust Member Bookchin's education department to ensure civic education is taught as "Democracy 101" and not "Socialism 101." 4. The Census Act, proposed by Member Subtallier of the Unity Coalition, along with associated amendments with Member Danube of the FDG (each amendment needs to be voted on separately). I Support this and all three amendments. 5. The Care and Shelter Act, proposed by Member Hughes of Dawn. I Support this. The homeless face extreme challenges integrating into the productive economy. History has shown us that one of the best ways to help the homeless is to give them a home. For my fellow fiscally-minded Members of Parliament, think of this not as a handout, but as an investment. This program will help thousands of homeless people off the streets, and set them on the path to working proper jobs and paying taxes once again. 6. The Sirtan Budget Office Act, proposed by Member Vanderbush I Support this. 7. The Outer Alliance Resolution, proposed by Member Vanderbush. I follow the lead of the sponsor of this bill and Abstain. I believe that acquiring membership in the OA should be a goal of the government and will raise our quality of life, but we do need to look before we leap, so to speak. Next legislative session, I look forward to working with our soon-to-be Foreign Minister to create a more comprehensive plan for OA membership. 8. Bill F-1, also known as the Tax Enforcement Act, proposed by ReSeAu Gen of the UCS. I Support this. 9. Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition, proposed by Amnesty of the Community (requires 61 votes to pass). I Oppose this. I don't believe we should make such radical changes to the structure of government before the government has had a chance to even do anything. 10. The Truth and Reconciliation Act, proposed by Member Danube of the FDG. I Support this. I sincerely believe this is the justice the people of Sirta have been waiting for. 11. The Truth and Justice Act, proposed by Member Knapfstein of the DAL. I Oppose this. This bill promises justice, but it seems clear to me that all it will deliver is vengeance. 12. The PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act, proposed by Member Bookchin of the SRLF. I Support this. However, I have significant reservations about the way the bill forces this new form of local government on every single municipality. I'm concerned about the unnecessary upheaval this creates in areas which wish to retain their current structure of representative government. Yes, in these areas, the new peoples' assembly may re-establish the old government, but I say why tear it down in the first place in such areas? I'm supporting this bill now, as I have no problem with allowing areas which prefer this new form of local government to adopt it. However, next legislative session, I plan to introduce a bill requiring referenda to be held in all local governments ahead of the transition, so the people may choose which option is best for themselves, in their own locality. Pakled fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Dec 6, 2017 |
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Arthur Subtallier and the Unity Coalition 1. A Motion of Confidence for the formation of government under Comrade Luxembourg from the SRLF. Supported. We have work to do, let's get on with it. 2. The SIRTRAK Act, proposed by Member Radek of the SRLF. Supported. Let the railways be in the hands of the people responsible for them, with no opportunity for price gouging the people that use them. 3. The SISTER Act, proposed by Member Bookchin of the SRLF. Supported wholeheartedly. It is incumbent upon us all to give the people every chance for self-improvement and education. 4. The Census Act, proposed by Member Subtallier of the Unity Coalition, along with associated amendments with Member Danube of the FDG (each amendment needs to be voted on separately). Supported. I have some concerns with the amendments that those without fixed abode may fall through the cracks, but if the Interior Ministry is mindful of this there is scope for it to be handled. So, with that caveat, Amendments 1, 2 and 3 are Supported. 5. The Care and Shelter Act, proposed by Member Hughes of Dawn. Supported. This is a vital, fundamental priority. No Sirtan left out in the cold! 6. The Sirtan Budget Office Act, proposed by Member Vanderbush Opposed. I'll not have us be hesitant in helping the People owing to red tape or fear of deficit spending during the crisis of transition. The people need our help now, not when convenient or when we think we can spare some change. Giving one office veto power over our actions is a recipe for gridlock and ineffectiveness. 7. The Outer Alliance Resolution, proposed by Member Vanderbush. Abstain. We need more information before committing to this course of action at this time, and should revisit this resolution once we have it and can make an informed choice. 8. Bill F-1, also known as the Tax Enforcement Act, proposed by ReSeAu Gen of the UCS. Supported. 9. Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition, proposed by Amnesty of the Community (requires 61 votes to pass). Abstain for the time being. Know, O Guardian appointees, that the eyes of the People are upon you. We have more pressing concerns right now, but I am deeply leery of an undemocratic bloc in the legislature. We serve the People. If it becomes apparent that your primary masters do not have the interests of the populace at heart first and foremost, then I will be among the first calling for the eradication of this experiment from within our parliament. If you truly put the people first, then you should have nothing to fear. 10. The Truth and Reconciliation Act, proposed by Member Danube of the FDG. Supported. The focus of this bill is upon the people and ensuring they secure restitution. 11. The Truth and Justice Act, proposed by Member Knapfstein of the DAL. Opposed. Indefinitely creating a new tier of the judiciary with powers over the rest of the justice system is concerning. Aside from the red tape and administrative bloat, it puts too much power in the hands of a few untouchable individuals. I much prefer the vetting inherent in the TARA. 12. The PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act, proposed by Member Bookchin of the SRLF. Supported, with some misgivings. The ultimate arbiter of how the people should be governed locally is the people themselves. Imposing this from a top-down perspective, whilst it does recognise some popular initiatives, does seem a little too one-size-fits all, a little too cookie-cutter for my tastes. Nevertheless, the principle is in line with our overarching mandate, and should a local council wish to modify itself, including out of existence if it wishes, then they have the wherewithal to do so. Let us see how the people respond to this and heed their wishes in subsequent legislation.
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I've just caught up. I'm interested in participating, but don't want to make long effort posts. In lieu of creating a spoiler party (The People's Shitposting Collective, etc), am I limited to voting for parties in the next election?
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Volmarias posted:I've just caught up. I'm interested in participating, but don't want to make long effort posts. In lieu of creating a spoiler party (The People's Shitposting Collective, etc), am I limited to voting for parties in the next election? If you can make dank memes John Selene welcomes you
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Volmarias posted:I've just caught up. I'm interested in participating, but don't want to make long effort posts. In lieu of creating a spoiler party (The People's Shitposting Collective, etc), am I limited to voting for parties in the next election? The Unity Coalition (Pure populist opportunists) would be happy to have you on board as a low-effort yes-man.
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Volmarias posted:I've just caught up. I'm interested in participating, but don't want to make long effort posts. In lieu of creating a spoiler party (The People's Shitposting Collective, etc), am I limited to voting for parties in the next election? You should be able to register a new party when AFancyQuestionMark opens party registration ahead of the next election.
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Actually, as written in the first post, party registration for the next election is already open, it's just that the election may not be for a while. You can also register for a citizen seat and wait two in-game years for a chance to get selected. You can join a party without getting into Parliament yet, getting involved in their decision making and increasing their member size for the next election. Finally, even only being a voter you can still influence Sirta's politics right now - some of the parties will want to appeal to you in the hopes of getting your vote in the next election.
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Volmarias posted:I've just caught up. I'm interested in participating, but don't want to make long effort posts. In lieu of creating a spoiler party (The People's Shitposting Collective, etc), am I limited to voting for parties in the next election? The Kikuzakura no Kai would gladly welcome a like minded individual into our ranks. Perhaps I can interest you in taking tea with me at one of our local establishments? Let us speak further of your desire to be active in Sirtan Politics.
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Ε fundet alternative: bedre ε citizen journalist and dψ interviews With ud.
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1. A Motion of Confidence for the formation of government under Comrade Luxembourg from the SRLF. AYE 2. The SIRTRAK Act, proposed by Member Radek of the SRLF. AYE 3. The SISTER Act, proposed by Member Bookchin of the SRLF. AYE 4. The Census Act, proposed by Member Subtallier of the Unity Coalition, along with associated amendments with Member Danube of the FDG (each amendment needs to be voted on separately). AYE on the act, AYE on all ammendments 5. The Care and Shelter Act, proposed by Member Hughes of Dawn. AYE 6. The Sirtan Budget Office Act, proposed by Member Vanderbush AYE 7. The Outer Alliance Resolution, proposed by Member Vanderbush. NAY 8. Bill F-1, also known as the Tax Enforcement Act, proposed by ReSeAu Gen of the UCS. AYE 9. Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition, proposed by Amnesty of the Community (requires 61 votes to pass). ABSTAIN 10. The Truth and Reconciliation Act, proposed by Member Danube of the FDG. ABSTAIN 11. The Truth and Justice Act, proposed by Member Knapfstein of the DAL. AYE 12. The PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act, proposed by Member Bookchin of the SRLF. AYE Crazycryodude fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Dec 6, 2017 |
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AFancyQuestionMark posted:Actually, as written in the first post, party registration for the next election is already open, it's just that the election may not be for a while. You can also register for a citizen seat and wait two in-game years for a chance to get selected. You can join a party without getting into Parliament yet, getting involved in their decision making and increasing their member size for the next election. Finally, even only being a voter you can still influence Sirta's politics right now - some of the parties will want to appeal to you in the hopes of getting your vote in the next election. Register me for a citizen seat, please!
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Crazycryodude posted:1. A Motion of Confidence for the formation of government under Comrade Luxembourg from the SRLF. Comrade Radek I shall vote the Cryo Slate.
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Comrade Bookchin votes with the Luxembourg Slate 1. A Motion of Confidence for the formation of government under Comrade Luxembourg from the SRLF. AYE 2. The SIRTRAK Act, proposed by Member Radek of the SRLF. AYE 3. The SISTER Act, proposed by Member Bookchin of the SRLF. AYE 4. The Census Act, proposed by Member Subtallier of the Unity Coalition, along with associated amendments with Member Danube of the FDG (each amendment needs to be voted on separately). AYE on the act, AYE on all ammendments 5. The Care and Shelter Act, proposed by Member Hughes of Dawn. AYE 6. The Sirtan Budget Office Act, proposed by Member Vanderbush AYE 7. The Outer Alliance Resolution, proposed by Member Vanderbush. NAY 8. Bill F-1, also known as the Tax Enforcement Act, proposed by ReSeAu Gen of the UCS. AYE 9. Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition, proposed by Amnesty of the Community (requires 61 votes to pass). ABSTAIN 10. The Truth and Reconciliation Act, proposed by Member Danube of the FDG. ABSTAIN 11. The Truth and Justice Act, proposed by Member Knapfstein of the DAL. AYE 12. The PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act, proposed by Member Bookchin of the SRLF. AYE
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Volmarias posted:Register me for a citizen seat, please! Done.
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Freedom and Stability Party 1. A Motion of Confidence for the formation of government under Comrade Luxembourg from the SRLF. OPPOSE We've made our objections with DAL participation clear 2. The SIRTRAK Act, proposed by Member Radek of the SRLF. OPPOSE While fixing the trains is vital, we don't believe nationalizing them and giving them carte blanc to demand as much money as they want to fix them is the bet or most efficient way to do it 3. The SISTER Act, proposed by Member Bookchin of the SRLF. OPPOSE As was highlighted by Vanderbush, I take issue with section 3 of this act 4. The Census Act, proposed by Member Subtallier of the Unity Coalition, along with associated amendments with Member Danube of the FDG (each amendment needs to be voted on separately). SUPPORT, along with all amendments 5. The Care and Shelter Act, proposed by Member Hughes of Dawn. OPPOSE Surely it would be more efficent to sell such properties, and rehouse people on cheaper (but still good-quality) accomidation avaliable on the open market? We'd get more people housed that way aswell 6. The Sirtan Budget Office Act, proposed by Member Vanderbush SUPPORT A body that will tell us the true cost of all these SRLF policies would be useful 7. The Outer Alliance Resolution, proposed by Member Vanderbush. OPPOSE We need more information 8. Bill F-1, also known as the Tax Enforcement Act, proposed by ReSeAu Gen of the UCS. SUPPORT While I have some issues with this act, the timely collection of taxation from all is key to a functioning government and a level democratic playing field 9. Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition, proposed by Amnesty of the Community (requires 61 votes to pass). OPPOSE Now is not the time 10. The Truth and Reconciliation Act, proposed by Member Danube of the FDG. ABSTAIN While the intent of this bill is good, it has just too many small issues with it for me to pass it 11. The Truth and Justice Act, proposed by Member Knapfstein of the DAL. OPPOSE See? This is why we don't like the DAL 12. The PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act, proposed by Member Bookchin of the SRLF. OPPOSE "Yes, lets force the entire country to use a method of governance that evolved organically in a few rural communities" I'd support recognizing their status,but not this. Nothingtoseehere fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Dec 6, 2017 |
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Crazycryodude posted:1. A Motion of Confidence for the formation of government under Comrade Luxembourg from the SRLF. Voting the Luxembourg Slate
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1. Motion of Confidence for the formation of government under Comrade Luxembourg from the SRLF. KNK votes Against this Motion of Confidence; there is not enough inclusivity of the other Parties within this new government. 2. The SIRTRAK Act, proposed by Member Radek of the SRLF. KNK votes Against the The SIRTRAK Act; we do not believe that state controlled trains is in the best interest of the people of Sirta. Furthermore, we believe that restoring other aspects of infrastructure is of higher priority than the rail system. 3. The SISTER Act, proposed by Member Bookchin of the SRLF. KNK votes For the The SISTER Act; although we do show some concern on who will set the curriculum, how it will be set. We do not want to see mass swaths of the population be indoctrinated by correct political thought. 4. The Census Act, proposed by Member Subtallier of the Unity Coalition, along with associated amendments with Member Danube of the FDG (each amendment needs to be voted on separately). KNK votes Against the The Census Act; we will vote for this legislation if the time between census taking is increased from 5 years to 10 years. 5. The Care and Shelter Act, proposed by Member Hughes of Dawn. KNK votes For the The Care and Shelter Act. 6. The Sirtan Budget Office Act, proposed by Member Vanderbush KNK votes For the Sirtan Budget Office Act. 7. The Outer Alliance Resolution, proposed by Member Vanderbush. KNK votes Against the The Outer Alliance Resolution; as the other Parties have stated, we would like to see the full terms and conditions of membership before committing. 8. Bill F-1, also known as the Tax Enforcement Act, proposed by ReSeAu Gen of the UCS. KNK votes Against the Tax Enforcement Act; the stated penalty of 5% interest, compounded daily, is excessive in the extreme for the vast majority of the citizens. Many families were without income over the past years, and filing taxes was the last thing on their minds. Even if they submit the proper documentation now, they would still not be in a position to pay back-taxes per this stated schedule. 9. Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition, proposed by Amnesty of the Community (requires 61 votes to pass). KNK votes For the Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition; we hope this will allow for more diverse participation from all the people, and not just those closely associated with the revolution. 10. The Truth and Reconciliation Act, proposed by Member Danube of the FDG. KNK votes Against the The Truth and Reconciliation Act; we too seek justice and recompense for the crimes committed by the old regime against the people of Sirta. Empowering the revolutionary guard, who has always claimed the uprising is not over until they deem it to be so, is consenting to having our streets run red with blood yet again. We will approve such a measure if this Council is selected from an impartial pool of candidates. 11. The Truth and Justice Act, proposed by Member Knapfstein of the DAL. KNK votes Against the The Truth and Justice Act; are we already sowing the seeds for the next revolution? This will only bring more suffering to the people of Sirta. 12. The PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act, proposed by Member Bookchin of the SRLF. KNK votes Against the The PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act ; are we already so eager to consolidate power under the current Prime Minister? We ask again, are The People only those who are deemed so by the SRLF? What of the rest of us? ***** Edit ***** -Added Party Icon CourValant fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Dec 7, 2017 |
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ReSeAu sits in the conference room, the voices of various members overlapping and rising volume and distress. He signals for quiet and is promptly ignored, the crescendo of noise growing increasingly frenzied as his caucus wrangle over the bills on the floor. Finally his patience wears thin and his mechanical body blares out a ringing sound, causing all assembled to wince and fall silent. His holoprojected face scowls R: I was under the impression we were a assembly of august individuals, not bickering children, several members heads drop abashedly I understand your concerns. Indeed, the SRLF's policies certainly conflict with our core ideals. Even more concerning is the partisan attitude in which the DAL is pitching its bill, where they seem to seek our destruction under the pretense of justice. It goes too far! Nonetheless, we must persevere for now. I am certain that moderation will prevail. Now, let us decide on our votes on the bills at hand... hours later, the assembly has dissolved and ReSeAu sighs. This certainly was harder than imagined. He presses for the intercom R: Ms. Grey, if you would have a moment, I have a favor to ask... The Union of Civil Services votes as following 1. Motion of Confidence. - Yes 2. SIRTRAK ACT - Yes 3. SISTER ACT - Yes 4. Census Act and all of it's amendments - Yes 5. Care and Shelter Act - Yes 6. Sirtan Budget Office Act - Yes 7. Outer Alliance Resolution - Abstain. The UCS acknowledges the gesture, but feels at the moment that further consensus is needed prior to stepping beyond national borders 8. Bill F-1 - Yes 9. Constitutional Amendment on parliament Composition - No. The UCS believes that to rashly amend the shape of government in the current moment is an unwise motion and will not support it 10. The Truth and Reconciliation Act - Abstain. While the UCS understands the need for restorative justice, we are unable to reach consensus as to the potential effect this bill may have on members of our party. Further review is required 11. The Truth and Justice Act - No. The UCS deems this nothing more than a partisan witch hunt designed to denigrate parties and members of government the DAL feels ideologically opposed to. This is not helped by the continued rhetoric of said party against members who may have served the nation in any capacity. 12. The People's Assembly Act - No. The UCS is currently of the opinion that to devolve governmental authorities at this current time would slow the speed of recovery and stability. While the notion is novel, upheaval on such short notice would be too radical a change for our systems.
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CourValant posted:Private Message Private Message To: Eli Masamune (KNK) From: ReSeAu, UCS Member Masamune, I thank you for your congratulations and wish you and yours well. I apologize for not replying sooner as the role of a speaker and party leader keeps one busy, even with a digital mind and body. The UCS is always happy to collaborate with any party willing to strengthen the institutions of the Sirtan Government and by extension, Sirta itself. We hope that your party will be able to contribute to this government as best as it is able to. Opinions from all spheres are always welcome, so long as they remain professional and do not undermine the integrity of this government. Respectfully, ReSeAu, Speaker Leader of the Union of Civil Services
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A minor member of the UCS signals for time in Parliament, ReSeAu grants him permission to speak Minor: It has come to our attention that there may be some ambiguity regarding Bill F-1 Section III B (I). Let me attempt to clarify. The interest would be 5% per annum, compounded daily, for any taxes owing. The UCS apologize for any confusion the bill may have caused. Thank you, I yield the rest of my time.
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Godlovesus posted:10. The Truth and Reconciliation Act - Abstain. While the UCS understands the need for restorative justice, we are unable to reach consensus as to the potential effect this bill may have on members of our party. Further review is required Speaker, if I may have a word, I would like to address the understandable reluctance of our civil servants to support the Truth and Reconciliation Act. I know you and your party have as much of an interest as the rest of us, if not moreso, in clearing out the corrupt remnants of the Old Regime that remain in the civil service, but I absolutely share your commitment to protecting honest civil servants, and this commitment is reflected in the bill. Unlike the Truth and Justice Act, the commissioners in my bill are ultimately answerable to Parliament, and the proceedings of the TRC will be open to all. This transparency and accountability, along with the clearly defined limits to the operation of the commission and the restitution it can order, will prevent abuse. Everything about the Truth and Reconciliation Act is designed to ensure that the Commission is dedicated to seeking justice, not vengeance.
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Pakled posted:Speaker, if I may have a word, I would like to address the understandable reluctance of our civil servants to support the Truth and Reconciliation Act. I know you and your party have as much of an interest as the rest of us, if not moreso, in clearing out the corrupt remnants of the Old Regime that remain in the civil service, but I absolutely share your commitment to protecting honest civil servants, and this commitment is reflected in the bill. Unlike the Truth and Justice Act, the commissioners in my bill are ultimately answerable to Parliament, and the proceedings of the TRC will be open to all. This transparency and accountability, along with the clearly defined limits to the operation of the commission and the restitution it can order, will prevent abuse. Everything about the Truth and Reconciliation Act is designed to ensure that the Commission is dedicated to seeking justice, not vengeance. Member Danube, I'm afraid this comment is out of order. As speaker, I am only allowed to comment on procedural matters. Hmm? what's this? ReSeAu frowns as he is handed a slip of paper by one of his deputies. He reads it and nods, dismissing the man. He turns towards Member Danube However, it seems your appeal to accountability and transparency has reached the Union of Civil Service. Please note on the record that the Union of Civil Service have decided to change their vote for the Truth and Reconciliation Act from abstain to Yes.
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January 3062 Parliament Votes: The voting phase is over. Remember that, in the narrative, these votes were separate and took place over the duration of the month, rather than all at once. Proposals under consideration: 1. A Motion of Confidence for the formation of government under Comrade Luxembourg from the SRLF. 2. The SIRTRAK Act, proposed by Member Radek of the SRLF. 3. The SISTER Act, proposed by Member Bookchin of the SRLF. 4. The Census Act, proposed by Member Subtallier of the Unity Coalition, along with associated amendments with Member Danube of the FDG. 5. The Care and Shelter Act, proposed by Member Hughes of Dawn. 6. The Sirtan Budget Office Act, proposed by Member Vanderbush 7. The Outer Alliance Resolution, proposed by Member Vanderbush. 8. Bill F-1, also known as the Tax Enforcement Act, proposed by ReSeAu Gen of the UCS. 9. Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition, proposed by Amnesty of the Community. 10. The Truth and Reconciliation Act, proposed by Member Danube of the FDG. 11. The Truth and Justice Act, proposed by Member Knapfstein of the DAL. 12. The PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act, proposed by Member Bookchin of the SRLF. Party Breakdown: * SRLF: ## Motion of Confidence 18 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## SIRTRAK Act 18 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## SISTER Act 18 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Census Act 18 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ### Amendment 1 18 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ### Amendment 2 18 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ### Amendment 3 18 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Care and Shelter Act 18 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Sirtan Budget Office Act 18 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Outer Alliance Resolution 0 Support, 18 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Bill F-1 18 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition 0 Support, 0 Oppose, 18 Abstain ## Truth and Reconciliation Act 0 Support, 0 Oppose, 18 Abstain ## Truth and Justice Act 18 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act 18 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain * Dawn: ## Motion of Confidence 9 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## SIRTRAK Act 9 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## SISTER Act 9 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Census Act 9 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ### Amendment 1 9 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ### Amendment 2 9 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ### Amendment 3 9 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Care and Shelter Act 9 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Sirtan Budget Office Act 9 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Outer Alliance Resolution 0 Support, 9 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Bill F-1 9 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition 0 Support, 9 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Truth and Reconciliation Act 9 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Truth and Justice Act 0 Support, 9 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act 9 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain * UCS: ## Motion of Confidence 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## SIRTRAK Act 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## SISTER Act 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Census Act 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ### Amendment 1 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ### Amendment 2 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ### Amendment 3 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Care and Shelter Act 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Sirtan Budget Office Act 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Outer Alliance Resolution 0 Support, 0 Oppose, 6 Abstain ## Bill F-1 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition 0 Support, 6 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Truth and Reconciliation Act 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Truth and Justice Act 0 Support, 6 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act 0 Support, 6 Oppose, 0 Abstain * FDG: ## Motion of Confidence 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## SIRTRAK Act 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## SISTER Act 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Census Act 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ### Amendment 1 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ### Amendment 2 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ### Amendment 3 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Care and Shelter Act 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Sirtan Budget Office Act 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Outer Alliance Resolution 0 Support, 0 Oppose, 6 Abstain ## Bill F-1 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition 0 Support, 6 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Truth and Reconciliation Act 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Truth and Justice Act 0 Support, 6 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain * DAL: ## Motion of Confidence 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## SIRTRAK Act 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## SISTER Act 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Census Act 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ### Amendment 1 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ### Amendment 2 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ### Amendment 3 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Care and Shelter Act 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Sirtan Budget Office Act 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Outer Alliance Resolution 0 Support, 6 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Bill F-1 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition 0 Support, 0 Oppose, 6 Abstain ## Truth and Reconciliation Act 0 Support, 6 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Truth and Justice Act 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act 6 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain * FSP: ## Motion of Confidence 0 Support, 3 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## SIRTRAK Act 0 Support, 3 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## SISTER Act 0 Support, 3 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Census Act 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ### Amendment 1 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ### Amendment 2 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ### Amendment 3 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Care and Shelter Act 0 Support, 3 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Sirtan Budget Office Act 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Outer Alliance Resolution 0 Support, 3 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Bill F-1 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition 0 Support, 3 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Truth and Reconciliation Act 0 Support, 0 Oppose, 3 Abstain ## Truth and Justice Act 0 Support, 3 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act 0 Support, 3 Oppose, 0 Abstain * Unity Coalition: ## Motion of Confidence 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## SIRTRAK Act 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## SISTER Act 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Census Act 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ### Amendment 1 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ### Amendment 2 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ### Amendment 3 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Care and Shelter Act 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Sirtan Budget Office Act 0 Support, 3 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Outer Alliance Resolution 0 Support, 0 Oppose, 3 Abstain ## Bill F-1 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition 0 Support, 0 Oppose, 3 Abstain ## Truth and Reconciliation Act 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Truth and Justice Act 0 Support, 3 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain * KNK: ## Motion of Confidence 0 Support, 3 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## SIRTRAK Act 0 Support, 3 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## SISTER Act 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Census Act 0 Support, 3 Oppose, 0 Abstain ### Amendment 1 0 Support, 3 Oppose, 0 Abstain ### Amendment 2 0 Support, 3 Oppose, 0 Abstain ### Amendment 3 0 Support, 3 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Care and Shelter Act 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Sirtan Budget Office Act 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Outer Alliance Resolution 0 Support, 3 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Bill F-1 0 Support, 3 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Truth and Reconciliation Act 0 Support, 3 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Truth and Justice Act 0 Support, 3 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act 0 Support, 3 Oppose, 0 Abstain * The Community: ## Motion of Confidence 0 Support, 3 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## SIRTRAK Act 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## SISTER Act 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Census Act 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ### Amendment 1 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ### Amendment 2 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ### Amendment 3 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Care and Shelter Act 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Sirtan Budget Office Act 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Outer Alliance Resolution 0 Support, 3 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Bill F-1 3 Support, 3 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain ## Truth and Reconciliation Act 1 Support, 0 Oppose, 2 Abstain ## Truth and Justice Act 1 Support, 0 Oppose, 2 Abstain ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act 3 Support, 0 Oppose, 0 Abstain * VM: ## Motion of Confidence 0 Support, 0 Oppose, 3 Abstain ## SIRTRAK Act 0 Support, 0 Oppose, 3 Abstain ## SISTER Act 0 Support, 0 Oppose, 3 Abstain ## Census Act 0 Support, 0 Oppose, 3 Abstain ### Amendment 1 0 Support, 0 Oppose, 3 Abstain ### Amendment 2 0 Support, 0 Oppose, 3 Abstain ### Amendment 3 0 Support, 0 Oppose, 3 Abstain ## Care and Shelter Act 0 Support, 0 Oppose, 3 Abstain ## Sirtan Budget Office Act 0 Support, 0 Oppose, 3 Abstain ## Outer Alliance Resolution 0 Support, 0 Oppose, 3 Abstain ## Bill F-1 0 Support, 0 Oppose, 3 Abstain ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition 0 Support, 0 Oppose, 3 Abstain ## Truth and Reconciliation Act 0 Support, 0 Oppose, 3 Abstain ## Truth and Justice Act 0 Support, 0 Oppose, 3 Abstain ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act 0 Support, 0 Oppose, 3 Abstain Guardian Council Appointments: * Vera Albright: ## Motion of Confidence Support ## SIRTRAK Act Support ## SISTER Act Support ## Census Act Support, Amendment 1 Support, Amendment 2 Support, Amendment 3 Support ## Care and Shelter Act Support ## Sirtan Budget Office Act Support ## Outer Alliance Resolution Oppose ## Bill F-1 Support ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition Oppose ## Truth and Reconciliation Act Support ## Truth and Justice Act Oppose ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act Support * Thomas Gill: ## Motion of Confidence Support ## SIRTRAK Act Support ## SISTER Act Support ## Census Act Support, Amendment 1 Support, Amendment 2 Support, Amendment 3 Support ## Care and Shelter Act Support ## Sirtan Budget Office Act Support ## Outer Alliance Resolution Oppose ## Bill F-1 Support ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition Oppose ## Truth and Reconciliation Act Support ## Truth and Justice Act Oppose ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act Abstain * Frank Probst: ## Motion of Confidence Support ## SIRTRAK Act Support ## SISTER Act Support ## Census Act Support, Amendment 1 Support, Amendment 2 Support, Amendment 3 Support ## Care and Shelter Act Support ## Sirtan Budget Office Act Support ## Outer Alliance Resolution Oppose ## Bill F-1 Support ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition Oppose ## Truth and Reconciliation Act Support ## Truth and Justice Act Oppose ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act Abstain * Lucia Caldera: ## Motion of Confidence Support ## SIRTRAK Act Support ## SISTER Act Support ## Census Act Support, Amendment 1 Support, Amendment 2 Support, Amendment 3 Support ## Care and Shelter Act Support ## Sirtan Budget Office Act Support ## Outer Alliance Resolution Oppose ## Bill F-1 Support ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition Oppose ## Truth and Reconciliation Act Support ## Truth and Justice Act Oppose ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act Support * Sander Hansen: ## Motion of Confidence Support ## SIRTRAK Act Support ## SISTER Act Support ## Census Act Support, Amendment 1 Support, Amendment 2 Support, Amendment 3 Support ## Care and Shelter Act Support ## Sirtan Budget Office Act Support ## Outer Alliance Resolution Oppose ## Bill F-1 Support ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition Support ## Truth and Reconciliation Act Oppose ## Truth and Justice Act Support ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act Support * Lisa Wyatt: ## Motion of Confidence Support ## SIRTRAK Act Support ## SISTER Act Support ## Census Act Support, Amendment 1 Support, Amendment 2 Support, Amendment 3 Support ## Care and Shelter Act Support ## Sirtan Budget Office Act Support ## Outer Alliance Resolution Oppose ## Bill F-1 Support ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition Oppose ## Truth and Reconciliation Act Support ## Truth and Justice Act Oppose ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act Abstain * William Viner: ## Motion of Confidence Abstain ## SIRTRAK Act Abstain ## SISTER Act Abstain ## Census Act Support, Amendment 1 Support, Amendment 2 Support, Amendment 3 Support ## Care and Shelter Act Support ## Sirtan Budget Office Act Support ## Outer Alliance Resolution Oppose ## Bill F-1 Support ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition Oppose ## Truth and Reconciliation Act Abstain ## Truth and Justice Act Oppose ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act Abstain * Roger Rockwell: ## Motion of Confidence Support ## SIRTRAK Act Support ## SISTER Act Support ## Census Act Support, Amendment 1 Support, Amendment 2 Support, Amendment 3 Support ## Care and Shelter Act Support ## Sirtan Budget Office Act Support ## Outer Alliance Resolution Oppose ## Bill F-1 Support ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition Oppose ## Truth and Reconciliation Act Support ## Truth and Justice Act Oppose ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act Abstain * Janet Oliphant: ## Motion of Confidence Support ## SIRTRAK Act Support ## SISTER Act Support ## Census Act Support, Amendment 1 Support, Amendment 2 Support, Amendment 3 Support ## Care and Shelter Act Support ## Sirtan Budget Office Act Support ## Outer Alliance Resolution Oppose ## Bill F-1 Support ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition Oppose ## Truth and Reconciliation Act Support ## Truth and Justice Act Oppose ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act Abstain * Silvia Collins: ## Motion of Confidence Support ## SIRTRAK Act Support ## SISTER Act Support ## Census Act Support, Amendment 1 Support, Amendment 2 Support, Amendment 3 Support ## Care and Shelter Act Support ## Sirtan Budget Office Act Support ## Outer Alliance Resolution Oppose ## Bill F-1 Support ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition Oppose ## Truth and Reconciliation Act Support ## Truth and Justice Act Oppose ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act Support * Rachel Hoffman: ## Motion of Confidence Support ## SIRTRAK Act Support ## SISTER Act Abstain ## Census Act Support, Amendment 1 Support, Amendment 2 Support, Amendment 3 Support ## Care and Shelter Act Support ## Sirtan Budget Office Act Abstain ## Outer Alliance Resolution Oppose ## Bill F-1 Support ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition Oppose ## Truth and Reconciliation Act Oppose ## Truth and Justice Act Support ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act Abstain * Paul Thiede: ## Motion of Confidence Abstain ## SIRTRAK Act Abstain ## SISTER Act Abstain ## Census Act Abstain, Amendment 1 Abstain, Amendment 2 Abstain, Amendment 3 Abstain ## Care and Shelter Act Support ## Sirtan Budget Office Act Abstain ## Outer Alliance Resolution Abstain ## Bill F-1 Support ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition Oppose ## Truth and Reconciliation Act Support ## Truth and Justice Act Support ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act Abstain * Della Jalbert: ## Motion of Confidence Abstain ## SIRTRAK Act Abstain ## SISTER Act Support ## Census Act Support, Amendment 1 Support, Amendment 2 Support, Amendment 3 Support ## Care and Shelter Act Support ## Sirtan Budget Office Act Support ## Outer Alliance Resolution Abstain ## Bill F-1 Support ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition Oppose ## Truth and Reconciliation Act Support ## Truth and Justice Act Support ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act Abstain * Sofia Juhl: ## Motion of Confidence Support ## SIRTRAK Act Support ## SISTER Act Support ## Census Act Support, Amendment 1 Support, Amendment 2 Support, Amendment 3 Support ## Care and Shelter Act Support ## Sirtan Budget Office Act Support ## Outer Alliance Resolution Oppose ## Bill F-1 Support ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition Oppose ## Truth and Reconciliation Act Support ## Truth and Justice Act Oppose ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act Abstain * Jade Ross: ## Motion of Confidence Abstain ## SIRTRAK Act Abstain ## SISTER Act Abstain ## Census Act Support, Amendment 1 Support, Amendment 2 Support, Amendment 3 Support ## Care and Shelter Act Support ## Sirtan Budget Office Act Support ## Outer Alliance Resolution Oppose ## Bill F-1 Support ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition Oppose ## Truth and Reconciliation Act Abstain ## Truth and Justice Act Oppose ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act Abstain Citizen Seats: * Rutherford T. Vanderbush: ## Motion of Confidence Support ## SIRTRAK Act Support ## SISTER Act Oppose ## Census Act Support, Amendment 1 Support, Amendment 2 Support, Amendment 3 Support ## Care and Shelter Act Support ## Sirtan Budget Office Act Support ## Outer Alliance Resolution Abstain ## Bill F-1 Support ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition Oppose ## Truth and Reconciliation Act Support ## Truth and Justice Act Oppose ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act Oppose * Jessica Ramsey: ## Motion of Confidence Support ## SIRTRAK Act Support ## SISTER Act Support ## Census Act Support, Amendment 1 Support, Amendment 2 Support, Amendment 3 Support ## Care and Shelter Act Support ## Sirtan Budget Office Act Support ## Outer Alliance Resolution Abstain ## Bill F-1 Support ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition Abstain ## Truth and Reconciliation Act Support ## Truth and Justice Act Abstain ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act Abstain * Susanne Brandt: ## Motion of Confidence Abstain ## SIRTRAK Act Abstain ## SISTER Act Support ## Census Act Support, Amendment 1 Support, Amendment 2 Support, Amendment 3 Support ## Care and Shelter Act Support ## Sirtan Budget Office Act Support ## Outer Alliance Resolution Abstain ## Bill F-1 Support ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition Abstain ## Truth and Reconciliation Act Support ## Truth and Justice Act Support ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act Abstain * Autumn Black: ## Motion of Confidence Abstain ## SIRTRAK Act Abstain ## SISTER Act Abstain ## Census Act Abstain, Amendment 1 Abstain, Amendment 2 Abstain, Amendment 3 Abstain ## Care and Shelter Act Support ## Sirtan Budget Office Act Abstain ## Outer Alliance Resolution Abstain ## Bill F-1 Abstain ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition Abstain ## Truth and Reconciliation Act Abstain ## Truth and Justice Act Oppose ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act Abstain * Grace Wright: ## Motion of Confidence Support ## SIRTRAK Act Support ## SISTER Act Support ## Census Act Support, Amendment 1 Support, Amendment 2 Support, Amendment 3 Support ## Care and Shelter Act Support ## Sirtan Budget Office Act Support ## Outer Alliance Resolution Oppose ## Bill F-1 Support ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition Oppose ## Truth and Reconciliation Act Support ## Truth and Justice Act Oppose ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act Oppose Overall: ## Motion of Confidence Support 62, Oppose 9, Abstain 9 ## SIRTRAK Act Support 65, Oppose 6, Abstain 9 ## SISTER Act Support 68, Oppose 4, Abstain 8 ## Census Act Support 72, Oppose 3, Abstain 5 ### Amendment 1 Support 72, Oppose 3, Abstain 5 ### Amendment 2 Support 72, Oppose 3, Abstain 5 ### Amendment 3 Support 72, Oppose 3, Abstain 5 ## Care and Shelter Act Support 74, Oppose 3, Abstain 3 ## Sirtan Budget Office Act Support 71, Oppose 3, Abstain 6 ## Outer Alliance Resolution Support 0, Oppose 68, Abstain 12 ## Bill F-1 Support 73, Oppose 3, Abstain 4 ## Constitutional Amendment on Parliament's Composition Support 7, Oppose 40, Abstain 33 ## Truth and Reconciliation Act Support 40, Oppose 11, Abstain 29 ## Truth and Justice Act Support 29, Oppose 44, Abstain 7 ## PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act Support 51, Oppose 11, Abstain 18 Outcome: Member Luxemburgs proposed government gained Parliaments confidence. In addition, the following bills were passed into law: * SIRTRAK Act * SISTER Act * Census Act and all 3 amendments. * Care and Shelter Act * Sirtan Budget Office Act * Bill F-1 * Truth and Reconciliation Act * PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY Act AFancyQuestionMark fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Dec 7, 2017 |
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Congratulations! After a period of negotiation and compromise, Sirtas first government is now a reality. It will officially begin operating tomorrow (8th of December, at 12:30 UTC) , after the acceptance ceremony. Speaking of which, Crazycryodude needs to post a speech for the ceremony, describing the general policy goals of the new government. The other Ministers-designate may write one or two sentences to say before accepting their positions, but it isnt required. Now, just because some of you were left outside of the coalition doesnt mean that you can rest on your laurels until the government collapses. On the contrary, it is your duty to hound the government at every turn, taking advantage of every possible opening to advance your own agenda. Every party whose leader opposed the Motion of Confidence is part of the opposition, and the leader of the largest party in the opposition is the Leader of Opposition, a role that has a variety of tools to hold the government to account. Unfortunately, in this specific Parliament, all of the opposition parties are of the same size, so the Leader of Opposition will be decided by the Guardian Council. To that end, the opposition party leaders are invited to make their case for being selected for the role. The decision will be announced at the acceptance ceremony.
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Comrade Radek Joyous news, to be sure. A stirring show of confidence for the government and programs of the SRLF and our partners, and I of course humbly accept my designation as Minister of Security. May we build a stable, secure, and prosperous future, in the name of The People.
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I would like to say once again that it is an honor to be chosen for this position, and I humbly accept. Engagement in the international community is vital for Sirta's economy, and I will do all at my disposal to ensure that prosperity comes to Sirta once more.
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Public declaration to the Guardian Council Esteemed Members of the Guardian Council, I bring tidings from the Loyal Opposition. As the glow and adrenaline of revolution fades, we find ourselves confronted with the sharp reality of governance and consensus building. It is on this point that I have grave concerns regarding the direction and leadership as set by our current Prime Minister. We of the Kikuzakura no Kai are not much for big speeches or flowery prose; either something is good for the people we represent, or, it is not. So the question we ask is this; do the current leaders of the proclaimed Continual Revolution still serve all the People of Sirta, or do they now solely exist to perpetuate their own reason for being? I for one am shocked and appalled at the naked power grab and consolidation of authority as exhibited by the Parties of the Revolution. Did we, all of us Sirtans, go through the pain and blood of the past few years to now be pressed again under thumb of another dictatorial few? Is this a government for All People, or just those deemed worthy by the Prime Minister through shared political thought? The KNK stands for those who are concerned that the boots and guns of Greene are now replaced by those who took up arms against them; if someone kicks down your door in the middle of the night and drags you out under force of arms, does it really matter who holds that rifle? To the other Parties of the Opposition, I implore you, let us unite and present a single front in Parliament. Let us bring temperament and balance to those who are still caught up in the days of storming through the streets. The People of Sirta deserve nothing less. Ever your humble servant. -Eli Masamune Kikuzakura no Kai (KNK) CourValant fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Dec 7, 2017 |
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I humbly accept the position as Minister of Education. I know I am entrusted with the future of Sirta in more ways than one, and will ensure that trust is well founded in the day to come.
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I'm honored to accept the office of Interior Minister. It's truly a remarkable thing to not only watch, but be a part of a free and democratic Sirta rising from the ashes of tyranny.
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