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I try to keep up with sharpening the kitchen knives, but I was cringing the other night watching my wife try to cut a large squash in half with which was a dull chefs knife. As for paring knives, an elcheapo Victorinox I got has been incredible. Sharp as hell and stays sharp. I can't remember the last time I had to touch it up. Memento posted:
You think that's bad, my wife tossed my Shun chef's knife in the dishwasher.
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Hand like a cat's paw. Cat's paw! CURL YOUR GODDAMNED FINGERS, NAILS TO THE FOOD AAAAHHHHH
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 16:30 |
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I tried curling my fingers once and instead of cutting my finger tips, I cut my knuckles
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um excuse me posted:I tried curling my fingers once and instead of cutting my finger tips, I cut my knuckles Your knuckles should rest against the blade and you shouldn't lift the blade high enough to actually cut yourself.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 16:42 |
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The blade should not even get above your knuckles to cut them. Takes some practice, but it really speeds things up when you start to get the hang of it.
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Nothing is more pro than Doccers using his lathe for food prep.
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InitialDave posted:Nothing is more pro than Doccers using his lathe for food prep. A food processor is just a vertical lathe NitroSpazzz posted:My wife is the opposite, any job requiring something to be cut requires the 9" chef's knife. I've tried correcting but it doesn't help so I do most of the food prep cutting and keep it sharp for when she uses it. That was also me, until I got a proper knife set. Still try to debone with a chefs knife on instinct sometimes. It's also me in other peoples homes since chances are that the chefs knife is the only one that's kept its edge. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Dec 7, 2017 |
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InitialDave posted:Nothing is more pro than Doccers using his lathe for food prep. Worse betide the man without a kitchen lathe and kitchen CNC.
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Exit Strategy posted:Worse betide the man without a kitchen lathe and kitchen CNC. I will unironically say the kitchen blowtorch has been fantastic.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:A food processor is just a vertical lathe Uh, what. I think you are using your food processor incorrectly.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 18:39 |
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Yeah, the tooling moves to cut the material, so it's more like a mill.
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InitialDave posted:Nothing is more pro than Doccers using his lathe for food prep.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 19:02 |
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Enourmo posted:Coming from auto-mechanic land it boggled my mind how completely terrible people can be with tools in my college work lab. Here's a guy using a hacksaw to cut through 1/2" plywood. Here's a guy attempting to use a dremel as a router in plywood... with one of those ceramic grinding heads. Here's someone hammering a 1/2" diameter wood-thread bolt through a 4x4. Here's someone using a step drill to create a hole in a 2x4. This post is like the handyperson's version of those New Years At The Gym comics
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Phy posted:This post is like the handyperson's version of those New Years At The Gym comics
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Enourmo posted:Coming from auto-mechanic land it boggled my mind how completely terrible people can be with tools in my college work lab. Here's a guy using a hacksaw to cut through 1/2" plywood. Here's a guy attempting to use a dremel as a router in plywood... with one of those ceramic grinding heads. Here's someone hammering a 1/2" diameter wood-thread bolt through a 4x4. Here's someone using a step drill to create a hole in a 2x4. I wish there were easier-to-find gifs of this meathead hammering wood screws into walls, but this'll work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg5uljtp9no
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Fermented Tinal posted:In HS I elected to not take shop or the mechanic class. Instead I took Engineering Tech and we had a CNC lathe, mill, router, robotic arm, plastic thermoforging machine/welder, and a rapid prototyper amongst other things. That *is* shop. Well, Metal Shop plus some cool stuff that I didn't get back in the yesteryear of 1987. We had manual mills, lathes, and MIGs (no TIG), and big-rear end stick welders. Successfully built an engine crane that the auto shop boys used, and the whole class built a goose-neck flatbed trailer. Memento posted:My wife used my hacksaw to cut branches off a little tree and complained that it was a piece of poo poo because of how long it took. My wife knows better. For one thing, her father taught her about proper tool for the job. And I get pissy enough when she doesn't put stuff back that she does, now. I think I've got her convinced that throwing knives in the dishwasher is not the best, even though ours are nothing special. I'll admit that I'm not the best at sharpening them. Enourmo posted:Coming from auto-mechanic land it boggled my mind how completely terrible people can be with tools in my college work lab. Here's a guy using a hacksaw to cut through 1/2" plywood. Here's a guy attempting to use a dremel as a router in plywood... with one of those ceramic grinding heads. Here's someone hammering a 1/2" diameter wood-thread bolt through a 4x4. Here's someone using a step drill to create a hole in a 2x4. ...and these are the guys who want to be engineers and design stuff that other people have to build. This is something my dad (mechanical engineer) complained about often.
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Slim Pickens posted:I wish there were easier-to-find gifs of this meathead hammering wood screws into walls, but this'll work. Wow.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 21:03 |
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Shop class back in my time (probably around '90) or so was hauling in anything you could and attempting to sort something out. Our teacher was also a farmer (at the time, this was some rural high school). It would give an OSHA inspector cardiac arrest. Parts washer which was used all the time was basically kerosene and a ton of who knows what. No gloves. Teacher did favors for his farmers pals. So he would haul in some piece of equipment for us to refurbish. It was always done in John Deere green when we painted it after grinding at it for hours. Then for the next couple days you would have green snot since who needed a mask. Had a welding table that was basically a 4x8 of bricks. They'd fill it with gas then ignite it. The bricks would float. Some other dumbass in the class dumped gas in the exhaust of a chainsaw to try to start it. The flame burned all his arm hair off. It really was a good class, because our teacher didn't put up with poo poo. Every tool had to be put back before we left in the tool room (and everything was marked), floors swept, etc. Now granted, I'm sure I'll get cancer but I learned a ton in that environment.
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Darchangel posted:...and these are the guys who want to be engineers and design stuff that other people have to build. This is something my dad (mechanical engineer) complained about often. Engineers who've never touched a wrench. Joy. I love how hiring managers can't tell the difference between me and them when I apply to jobs that having aptitude would be, you know, critical.
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# ? Dec 7, 2017 21:38 |
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My highschool had some decent shop classes. 2 Auto shops, wood shop, Electrical shop, Machine, Electronics, Refrigeration. Wish I'd taken wood shop at least once.
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wesleywillis posted:My highschool had some decent shop classes. Eh, would have ended up like my wood shop class. Some dumb gently caress abuses a tool and ruins it for everyone. In my case it was a band saw blade.
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Colostomy Bag posted:Eh, would have ended up like my wood shop class. Some dumb gently caress abuses a tool and ruins it for everyone. In my case it was a band saw blade. Or someone cuts most of their fingers off, which is what killed shop class at my high school the year before I went there.
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cakesmith handyman posted:What age and skill level of student? Should this person have a handler of some kind in normal life? Do they pay to replace it? Are you allowed to tase your students for stupidity? To this day I can never understand how it's possible to make it through life without a knowledge of how tools work and how to use them. I do honestly mean that. How can a person survive without knowing how to do anything?
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General_Failure posted:To this day I can never understand how it's possible to make it through life without a knowledge of how tools work and how to use them. I do honestly mean that. How can a person survive without knowing how to do anything? Their dad takes care of everything until they marry someone who can take over.
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Or they just pay someone else to do anything remotely practical
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I didn't appreciate how good our shop was while I was in 7th grade but we had Aluminum forging, acetylene welding and stick, just a whole mess of dangerous stuff. 12 year olds!
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Oddhair posted:I didn't appreciate how good our shop was while I was in 7th grade but we had Aluminum forging, acetylene welding and stick, just a whole mess of dangerous stuff. 12 year olds! Al forging? Did you grow up at Alcoa High School and get a free set of rims every semester?
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General_Failure posted:To this day I can never understand how it's possible to make it through life without a knowledge of how tools work and how to use them. I do honestly mean that. How can a person survive without knowing how to do anything? When would they use tools? When you buy furniture, you can have the the store deliver and assemble it for you. When you move, you can pay the movers to disassemble and reassemble your furniture. If you take your electronics to someone else to have it fixed, you never need to learn how to use a screwdriver. If you don't build anything, you never have to use a saw, or a drill, or a hammer. In our modern society, it is very easy to make it through life without ever using a tool.
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General_Failure posted:To this day I can never understand how it's possible to make it through life without a knowledge of how tools work and how to use them. I do honestly mean that. How can a person survive without knowing how to do anything? It's the people who take some kind of pride in not knowing that wind me up. "Oh no, this practical skill is below me, I wouldn't want anyone thinking I was one of those people".
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My shop class had a guy who'd put a piece of wood in a vice (light grip), then karate kick it into the disc sander going at full speed which would launch it at crazy angles. I think that's the only thing I remember about the class actually.
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InitialDave posted:Not knowing how to do things is kind of forgivable, though it does get ridiculous when people appear to know nothing. Why is it $300 to replace an oxygen sensor? Why is it $600 to replace an inducer blower in my furnace? Oh cool, got an oil change for $30 dollars with a coupon. Why is it $7,000 for a new engine?
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Slim Pickens posted:I wish there were easier-to-find gifs of this meathead hammering wood screws into walls, but this'll work. Canada's Worst Handyman season 3 and 4 is on Netflix. Pro Click to watch it all. OSHA violations galore and none of these people should ever handle tools again.
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Cojawfee posted:When would they use tools? When you buy furniture, you can have the the store deliver and assemble it for you. When you move, you can pay the movers to disassemble and reassemble your furniture. If you take your electronics to someone else to have it fixed, you never need to learn how to use a screwdriver. If you don't build anything, you never have to use a saw, or a drill, or a hammer. In our modern society, it is very easy to make it through life without ever using a tool. What do these people do?, besides producing a lot of the content for this thread. I mean I guess my background is very different from theirs. I can't imagine what it'd be like to never do things for myself. It'd be like real life with cheats enabled. e: ^^^^ Nice. I'll have to see if it's on Netflix Australia. I watched the older seasons on YouTube. I'm not much of a TV person but I do like shows that have me non-stop yelling at them in horror and anguish. General_Failure fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Dec 8, 2017 |
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MomJeans420 posted:My shop class had a guy who'd put a piece of wood in a vice (light grip), then karate kick it into the disc sander going at full speed which would launch it at crazy angles. I think that's the only thing I remember about the class actually. We had super not gay manly men polish their nails on the high-speed buffing wheel.
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General_Failure posted:What do these people do?, besides producing a lot of the content for this thread. I mean I guess my background is very different from theirs. I can't imagine what it'd be like to never do things for myself. It'd be like real life with cheats enabled. They live in apartments in cities so they don't have to fix anything. They take public transport so they never have to fix a car. If something breaks, they take it somewhere to get fixed or buy a new one. If you know how to fix things, it seems simple. If you don't know how to use tools, it seems like a Herculean task, so you pay someone else to do it.
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mekilljoydammit posted:Engineers who've never touched a wrench. Joy. Well, on the part of your resume for hobbies and other interests, note that you work on your cars or something. I do that even for IT to point out troubleshooting skills and process thinking. Mine basically says "I like to fix poo poo." In resume-ish terms, of course. General_Failure posted:What do these people do?, besides producing a lot of the content for this thread. I mean I guess my background is very different from theirs. I can't imagine what it'd be like to never do things for myself. It'd be like real life with cheats enabled. Play video games, watch TV, post on Facebook, and go clubbing, as far as I can tell. Maybe go to sports things, or bars to watch sports things? I'm with you. I never get caught up on all the movies and show I want to watch because I like doing stuff, too. Some I have to do, some I want to do, but it all cuts into my TV/gaming time. I figure I'll catch up on all that when I *can't* go out and work in the garage anymore. Then it'll all be retro/vintage, too!
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I always feel a bit ambivalent when this kind of talk comes along. Yes, I believe it's pretty handy to know how to fix your car or do some home improvement on your own. Still, I don't fault people who don't take an interest in it, because you really don't have to know this stuff these days. I mean, I'm pretty sure my great grandma would've huffed and puffed about me not knowing how to churn butter, use a washing board or how to put up a good hayrack.
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Cojawfee posted:They live in apartments in cities so they don't have to fix anything. Growing up I helped fix a lot of stuff around the house but now that I rent not only do you not have to fix anything, but you pay rent every month specifically so your landlord can fix everything. Everyone should have those skills but also should know when it isn't their responsibility. If you grow up in a rental property though its hard to learn those skills I imagine.
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On the other hand, people knowing some basic repair skills would at least help them out when the landlord's $10 handyman fucks up their place even more.
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Nidhg00670000 posted:I always feel a bit ambivalent when this kind of talk comes along. Yes, I believe it's pretty handy to know how to fix your car or do some home improvement on your own. Still, I don't fault people who don't take an interest in it, because you really don't have to know this stuff these days.
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