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teen witch
Oct 9, 2012
Who is in the FB group? Link below gawhdahmut

https://m.facebook.com/groups/1521054741282249

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BIG CITY LAWYER
Sep 15, 2004

I believe it was the great American painter Bob Ross who said, "The key to a swollen vagina is... courage."
I joined!

Firstborn
Oct 14, 2012

i'm the heckin best
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frig all the rest
What was the episode next week again?

Coheed and Camembert
Feb 11, 2012

Firstborn posted:

What was the episode next week again?

Hard to Kill, featuring notorious supervillain and sex pest Steven Seagal.

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

Hope the new Patreon fees don't gently caress over the guys too much.

Firstborn
Oct 14, 2012

i'm the heckin best
yeah
yeah
yeah
frig all the rest

Coheed and Camembert posted:

Hard to Kill, featuring notorious supervillain and sex pest Steven Seagal.

One night someone said randomly in a CD thread how terrible Seagal was, and I went into a rabbit hole for around 3~ hours looking up all the terrible things he's done. It was an amazing ride. I think the original comment that spurred it was in reference to the "Seagal Vision" camera filter the reality show uses where he is a deputy (???) tagalong on what is basically Cops.

The "Seagal Vision" kicks in inexplicably when he sees a minority and Steven whispers, "he's up to something". Then it'll cut to the gym, fat Steven Seagal is doing wrist throws on them and stuff, and in an confessional way a sweaty cop will say to the camera, "Steven just has a sixth sense about this..." It's a hilarious show.

I will maintain that Out For Justice is a legit action movie.

Baka-nin
Jan 25, 2015

Firstborn posted:

One night someone said randomly in a CD thread how terrible Seagal was, and I went into a rabbit hole for around 3~ hours looking up all the terrible things he's done. It was an amazing ride. I think the original comment that spurred it was in reference to the "Seagal Vision" camera filter the reality show uses where he is a deputy (???) tagalong on what is basically Cops.

The "Seagal Vision" kicks in inexplicably when he sees a minority and Steven whispers, "he's up to something". Then it'll cut to the gym, fat Steven Seagal is doing wrist throws on them and stuff, and in an confessional way a sweaty cop will say to the camera, "Steven just has a sixth sense about this..." It's a hilarious show.

I will maintain that Out For Justice is a legit action movie.





Thanks to the mailbag episode (I forget which one) now every time I see or hear of Steven Seagal I think of the time he got down on one knee to look a ten year old fan who wanted an autograph in the eye just to tell him to gently caress off. Followed by a brief lecture on responsibility and not being selfish.

Haven't really paid much attention to the guy apart from the Undersiege films and hearing some rumours, could you give a rundown of his best worst stuff? Narcissistic action stars rarely disappoint.

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007




Grimey Drawer

GrandpaPants posted:

Hope the new Patreon fees don't gently caress over the guys too much.

Uh unless people de-pledge en masse it's actually good for them.

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING

SamuraiFoochs posted:

Uh unless people de-pledge en masse it's actually good for them.

That's been happening to a lot of creators today because if you're of the "donate a little to a lot of dudes" school you're getting hosed. Soooooo...

Firstborn
Oct 14, 2012

i'm the heckin best
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yeah
yeah
frig all the rest

Baka-nin posted:

Haven't really paid much attention to the guy apart from the Undersiege films and hearing some rumours, could you give a rundown of his best worst stuff? Narcissistic action stars rarely disappoint.
Here's some:

Vanity Fair posted:

One day, an executive walked into Seagal's trailer and found Hollywood's reigning manly man... weeping. 'Oh, I'm reading this script,' Seagal explained, still misty. 'It's the most incredible script I've ever read.'
'That's fantastic,' the executive said, 'Who wrote it?'
Seagal didn't miss a beat. 'I did,' he replied.

He has lied and said he was homeless in Japan at age 13 and trained under Aikido's founder, whose family denied the claim. He has reported to have helped train CIA agents in Japan, which his wife denies. He for some reason lies and says he is Italian even though his mother was Jewish and his father was Irish. He claims to have fought the Japanese Yakuza with the help of the Italian Mafia. He says auction houses hire him to appraise ancient swords, specifically. Quite a few accusations of sexual abuse.

... He takes credit for some UFC victories, claiming that he taught specifically the kick that Anderson Silva used to win one of his matches, and went on Jimmy Kimmel and claimed Lyoto Machida was his student.
... He refers to himself as "Lord Steven" or "The Great One".
He owns a bulletproof jacket that looks like a kimono.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93uyDLhTQYQ
https://music.avclub.com/run-the-jewels-on-the-brutality-music-and-magic-of-st-1798274718


E: This says everything: http://fightland.vice.com/blog/the-glimmer-man-under-siege-the-life-and-times-of-steven-seagal

Firstborn fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Dec 8, 2017

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007




Grimey Drawer

END ME SCOOB posted:

That's been happening to a lot of creators today because if you're of the "donate a little to a lot of dudes" school you're getting hosed. Soooooo...

Well poo poo. I mean I literally donate to only a few so I'm fine but yeah. Any chance Patreon reverses tack?

Coheed and Camembert
Feb 11, 2012

I think Under Siege is still a fun movie, as long as you turn your brain off. Gary Busey is a surprisingly effective antagonist.

As far as Seagal himself, he's probably insane and is definitely a terrible person.


To liven the mood, he also doesn't know how to run.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!
I sent the guys a message via the mailbag, but if they don't get to it in time I'll ask here.

I am hosting my family for Christmas this year and in an effort to avoid watching the same old "whatever marathon is on TLC". What Christmas/Holiday/Family friendly movies might you suggest I get my hands on to help keep everyone sane and entertained that aren't the same old thing you see every year? (For reference, no small kids, just old folks that don't like gore or much swearing).

Thanks

Admiral Bosch
Apr 19, 2007
Who is Admiral Aken Bosch, and what is that old scoundrel up to?
god drat it i liked the thomas jane punisher :saddowns:

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Indolent Bastard posted:

I sent the guys a message via the mailbag, but if they don't get to it in time I'll ask here.

I am hosting my family for Christmas this year and in an effort to avoid watching the same old "whatever marathon is on TLC". What Christmas/Holiday/Family friendly movies might you suggest I get my hands on to help keep everyone sane and entertained that aren't the same old thing you see every year? (For reference, no small kids, just old folks that don't like gore or much swearing).

Thanks

Olds loving love watching the same poo poo every year. I'm so sick of watching Christmas Vacation, yet every year my mom insists on putting it in the DVD player.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Indolent Bastard posted:

I sent the guys a message via the mailbag, but if they don't get to it in time I'll ask here.

I am hosting my family for Christmas this year and in an effort to avoid watching the same old "whatever marathon is on TLC". What Christmas/Holiday/Family friendly movies might you suggest I get my hands on to help keep everyone sane and entertained that aren't the same old thing you see every year? (For reference, no small kids, just old folks that don't like gore or much swearing).

Thanks

Collateral Beauty

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Collateral Beauty

I hear it's good

SamuraiFoochs
Jan 16, 2007




Grimey Drawer

Admiral Bosch posted:

god drat it i liked the thomas jane punisher :saddowns:

It's okay to like a movie.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Admiral Bosch posted:

god drat it i liked the thomas jane punisher :saddowns:
May I ask why? I mean outside of this scene which is timeless cinematic gold:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuqbIfOMxgc

Firstborn
Oct 14, 2012

i'm the heckin best
yeah
yeah
yeah
frig all the rest
Try Zoo

Tato
Jun 19, 2001

DIRECTIVE 236: Promote pro-social values
I liked that the Tom Jane Punisher just had him utterly destroy John Travolta at the end. So often in these films, the bad guy is a rich weakling who sends his thugs and his big heavy after the hero, but you have to have a final confrontation anyway, during which the weakling boss inexplicably has the fighting ability to go toe to toe with the hero for a few minutes. I'm thinking of Darkman and John Wick among others (I like those films a lot).

Punisher doesn't bother giving Travolta even a moment of standing toe to toe with Frank Castle. He gets out drawn, shot in the gut, spins around in a hilarious Travolta fashion, gets mocked by the Punisher for killing his wife and friend, then tied to an exploding car while he whimpers and cries engulfed in CGI fire. I find it awesomely hilarious.

But the rest of the movie is pretty bad but still enjoyable. The movie is just....weird. A mish mash of 70s revenge flicks, fire hydrant pranks, and misplaced Welcome Back Frank elements. It also feels hacked to pieces. I don't think a full cut would be better, but maybe the tone wouldn't radically shift every 5 minutes.

Firstborn
Oct 14, 2012

i'm the heckin best
yeah
yeah
yeah
frig all the rest
The weekend that I went to go see The Punisher in my fat kid shorts with my brother, my mother and sister went to see Man On Fire. Walked out the movie discussing the revenge plots, and when I saw Man On Fire when it hit home release, I felt pretty dumb. I wonder if Man On Fire holds up, because that was a hell of a flick at the time.

Coheed and Camembert
Feb 11, 2012

Tato posted:

I liked that the Tom Jane Punisher just had him utterly destroy John Travolta at the end. So often in these films, the bad guy is a rich weakling who sends his thugs and his big heavy after the hero, but you have to have a final confrontation anyway, during which the weakling boss inexplicably has the fighting ability to go toe to toe with the hero for a few minutes. I'm thinking of Darkman and John Wick among others (I like those films a lot).

Punisher doesn't bother giving Travolta even a moment of standing toe to toe with Frank Castle. He gets out drawn, shot in the gut, spins around in a hilarious Travolta fashion, gets mocked by the Punisher for killing his wife and friend, then tied to an exploding car while he whimpers and cries engulfed in CGI fire. I find it awesomely hilarious.

I really dug Travolta in that movie, I thought he was a definite highlight. The movie somehow feels padded out, but in all the wrong areas. Give me more gunfights and kicking rear end, and much less footage of the neighbors. Get rid of them entirely. There's also weird scenes where I expected the camera to cut away, and it just..doesn't. It dwells and the whole thing feels really off-putting and poorly edited.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Indolent Bastard posted:

I sent the guys a message via the mailbag, but if they don't get to it in time I'll ask here.

I am hosting my family for Christmas this year and in an effort to avoid watching the same old "whatever marathon is on TLC". What Christmas/Holiday/Family friendly movies might you suggest I get my hands on to help keep everyone sane and entertained that aren't the same old thing you see every year? (For reference, no small kids, just old folks that don't like gore or much swearing).

Thanks

Arthur Christmas
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (the sophisticate's version of "hurr Die Hard is a Christmas movie, did you know that, did you, did you)
While You Were Sleeping
Love Actually (I personally hate this one, but it's a crowd-pleaser. Might skip the porn shoot scenes if Grandma's in the room though)
Christmas in Connecticut (black and white classic, surprisingly hilarious)
Scrooged
Ernest Saves Christmas (it's okay to like a movie :colbert: )
Unaccompanied Minors
Just Friends
About a Boy
Best Man Holiday

Comedy option: Santa With Muscles, a Hulk Hogan classic

Tato
Jun 19, 2001

DIRECTIVE 236: Promote pro-social values
It's also incredibly weird how bright and sunny the movie is. I know the grim and gritty dark aesthetic is worn out, but of all the characters who almost need it to function, it's The Punisher. This film features entire families being shot and run down, guitar assassin fights, Russians mauling guys, and the Punisher trying to give his moody credo, all in beautiful Florida sunlight. It's so loving ODD. I think that's why it works well for an episode, the movie is just bizarre in so many ways.

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!

Indolent Bastard posted:

I sent the guys a message via the mailbag, but if they don't get to it in time I'll ask here.

I am hosting my family for Christmas this year and in an effort to avoid watching the same old "whatever marathon is on TLC". What Christmas/Holiday/Family friendly movies might you suggest I get my hands on to help keep everyone sane and entertained that aren't the same old thing you see every year? (For reference, no small kids, just old folks that don't like gore or much swearing).

Thanks

Gremlins, the best Christmas movie.

Red Bones
Aug 9, 2012

"I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

I am not an American so I don't know what Christmas movies TLC plays every year, but The Muppet Christmas Carol is a great Christmas movie and the best adaption of the story in any medium, so you should put it on for your family.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
I like the middle bit of the Thomas Jane Punisher, where it's just him doing bossfights with bizarre hitmen

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!

Red Bones posted:

I am not an American so I don't know what Christmas movies TLC plays every year, but The Muppet Christmas Carol is a great Christmas movie and the best adaption of the story in any medium, so you should put it on for your family.

TLC does not play movies. Unfortunately they play reality show marathons. So it will be one full day of Say Yes to the Dress or renovation show disasters or something else equally vacuous.

CARL MARK FORCE IV
Sep 2, 2007

I took a walk. And threw up in an English garden.

Firstborn posted:

The weekend that I went to go see The Punisher in my fat kid shorts with my brother, my mother and sister went to see Man On Fire. Walked out the movie discussing the revenge plots, and when I saw Man On Fire when it hit home release, I felt pretty dumb. I wonder if Man On Fire holds up, because that was a hell of a flick at the time.

I rewatched it recently.
It's grimy and miserable and looks cheap, digital & washed out (really similar look to Inland Empire, oddly), but it's so fuckin good.
Does the ol' Prestige Cop Drama/Tarantino bait n' switch of tricking the viewer into cheering the protagonist's wanton violence, then ramping it up until you're horrified that you were rooting for the dude 15 minutes ago, but w/ a subtlety and brutality that none of the above have really touched.
Also dig the alcoholic fever dream pacing and the ludicrously baroque plot.
Watch Man On Fire.

Vakal
May 11, 2008

CARL MARK FORCE IV posted:

I rewatched it recently.
It's grimy and miserable and looks cheap, digital & washed out (really similar look to Inland Empire, oddly), but it's so fuckin good.
Does the ol' Prestige Cop Drama/Tarantino bait n' switch of tricking the viewer into cheering the protagonist's wanton violence, then ramping it up until you're horrified that you were rooting for the dude 15 minutes ago, but w/ a subtlety and brutality that none of the above have really touched.
Also dig the alcoholic fever dream pacing and the ludicrously baroque plot.
Watch Man On Fire.

It's also worth watching to relive the days when everyone thought Dakota Fanning was going to rule Hollywood before she drop off of the face of the earth.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
did anybody sincerely think that?

was there a single movie she was in that she didn't completely stink up?

Firstborn
Oct 14, 2012

i'm the heckin best
yeah
yeah
yeah
frig all the rest
I watched Hard to Kill this afternoon. Yeah, it was real bad. The whole movie is about him avenging his wife, and after he sleeps with that nurse he knew for two days there's a scene where he looks at his wedding band, then looks at himself in the mirror and gives himself a little disapproving head shake.

Also the blood bank line.

Duckula
Aug 31, 2001

do not resuscitate

The entire hospital escape sequence is unbridled insanity.

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

was there a single movie she was in that she didn't completely stink up?

I thought she was fine in Coraline?

Shirec
Jul 29, 2009

How to cock it up, Fig. I

Big Daddy Dispatch is out for Patreon people today and they announced a new tier! Anybody $5+ is getting an extra episode every month, and I am super pumped for it! They have really done a good job with the Patreon content so far, the Nexus being my fave of all of it

Coheed and Camembert
Feb 11, 2012
The Twilight commentaries are pro listens, and the TMNT commentary livened up that boring movie. This is great news.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Shirec posted:

Big Daddy Dispatch is out for Patreon people today and they announced a new tier! Anybody $5+ is getting an extra episode every month, and I am super pumped for it! They have really done a good job with the Patreon content so far, the Nexus being my fave of all of it

Also next weeks episode is pottersville I also expect an on screen for Star Wars

Hockles
Dec 25, 2007

Resident of Camp Blood
Crystal Lake

Shirec posted:

Big Daddy Dispatch is out for Patreon people today and they announced a new tier! Anybody $5+ is getting an extra episode every month, and I am super pumped for it! They have really done a good job with the Patreon content so far, the Nexus being my fave of all of it

It's not live yet. I realized last week with all the Patreon fee nonsense, that I was at the $8 level but never actually listened to the Nexus podcast. So, I dropped down to the $3 level... but I just tried to upgrade back to the $5 level, but it's not there yet.

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GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2017/12/which-film-critics-are-the-most-contrarian-we-used-data-to-find-out/

look at number 10

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