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John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


It's 2017 now though and no one cares if you're gay unless you use coming out as an excuse for your sexual abuse

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Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Al Borland Corp. posted:

It's 2017 now though and no one cares if you're gay unless you use coming out as an excuse for your sexual abuse

Rationally I'm sure a guy like Travolta understands that but if he's lived his entire career in the closet there's probably a lot of emotional baggage involved with coming out at this point after so many years in the public eye.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Al Borland Corp. posted:

It's 2017 now though and no one cares if you're gay unless you use coming out as an excuse for your sexual abuse

For an older guy like Travolta it doesn't matter nearly as much what it's like now as what it was like during his formative years. And back then you shoved that poo poo back further than the Christmas ornaments on December 26th.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Sure he should absolutely not come out if he doesn't want to. It was really lovely the way the media treated Jodie Foster for not coming out in her Golden globe speech.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
Plus, I don't know how much of John's family and siblings if he has any who are alive, but maybe his concern at this point is not what the public thinks so much as what they would think. Anybody who has ever struggled with sexuality or knows someone who has is probably aware of the anxiety coming out to family causes.

On top of that, he'd possibly face a lot of judgment for not being honest with his kids. I know his autistic son passed away, which was really loving sad. Supposedly had him considering leaving COS since they wouldn't let the kid get treatment for Kawasaki disease. But he has 2 other kids, one of whom I think is a teenager now.

Al Borland Corp. posted:

Sure he should absolutely not come out if he doesn't want to. It was really lovely the way the media treated Jodie Foster for not coming out in her Golden globe speech.

Michael Stipe faced a lot of scrutiny for not coming out sooner, too.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

remember folks, for every Weinstein or Ratner, there's someone out there sitting pretty despite what they've done. Dylan Farrow will tell you that.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

Welp. New rape accusation against Bryan Singer just dropped.

Yaws
Oct 23, 2013

DC Murderverse posted:

remember folks, for every Weinstein or Ratner, there's someone out there sitting pretty despite what they've done. Dylan Farrow will tell you that.

loving Woody Allen.

Why are actors so eager to star in his films and defend him? His poo poo sucks.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

https://twitter.com/anopensecret/status/938961458636959745

I'm very curious to see what this is regarding.

Also, if you've never heard of An Open Secret before, it's a documentary about sexual assault in Hollywood, and part of it features Bryan Singer and David Geffen, who are definitely at the end of their ropes (in fact, it wouldn't surprise me if this tweet were about Geffen, given his proximity to Singer and the suit brought against Singer today). It got limited distribution a few years ago but it never got a real release, but they put it up on Vimeo for free for a week or so after the Weinstein allegations came out.

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.
An Open Secret was actually a YTotD/Vimeo of the day a while back. It doesn't go into any of the details about Michael Egan's lawsuit against Singer because during the film production Egan actually requested it be withdrawn after Singer and his lawyers planned to counter-sue. Michael Egan is interviewed in the film, however. Moreover, though, the film gets into detail about Singer's periodic professional connections to not just individuals, but organizations that indulged the sexual predation of minors.

https://vimeo.com/142444429

As this Singer stuff breaks keep an ear up for the names Digital Entertainment Network (DEN) and Rawleywood. Michael Egan requested his suit against Singer be withdrawn apparently after the defense found some pretty damning evidence against his allegations. But regardless of the veracity of those allegations, it may have after all just been a mask for what is, if not indisputable, at least very likely from the overwhelming witness testimony that Egan and others present: That under the pretense of producing revolutionary digital TV content with young talent, DEN executives Marc Collins-Rector, Brock Pierce, and Chad Shackley hosted parties in which they not only preyed upon their young and aspiring talent sexually, plying them with drugs and alcohol, but also used them as enticement for older investors.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

it should also be pointed out that another man who Egan named in his lawsuit, Gary Goddard, was accused a few weeks ago of molesting Anthony Edwards when he was in his early teens. He's worked with Singer on a number of occasions.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




gently caress, I hope this allegation actually sticks to Singer and more people speak out. He's such a loving sicko sleazeball and should have been stopped years ago.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

esperterra posted:

gently caress, I hope this allegation actually sticks to Singer and more people speak out. He's such a loving sicko sleazeball and should have been stopped years ago.

It's all I want for Christmas.

I fell down the rabbit hole reading articles linked on FB, a few people were saying Spacey has fled the country. While I don;t know if that is true I'm really curious to see if that becomes a thing that these assholes end up doing.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Rhyno posted:

It's all I want for Christmas.

I fell down the rabbit hole reading articles linked on FB, a few people were saying Spacey has fled the country. While I don;t know if that is true I'm really curious to see if that becomes a thing that these assholes end up doing.

you know where they're all gonna go, right?

The Pedof Isles!

ill see myself out thanks try the veal

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Rhyno posted:

It's all I want for Christmas.

I fell down the rabbit hole reading articles linked on FB, a few people were saying Spacey has fled the country. While I don;t know if that is true I'm really curious to see if that becomes a thing that these assholes end up doing.

Worked for Polanski, so I wouldn't be surprised if some of them try it if the heat gets bad enough they may be facing jail time.

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.

K. Waste posted:

An Open Secret was actually a YTotD/Vimeo of the day a while back. It doesn't go into any of the details about Michael Egan's lawsuit against Singer because during the film production Egan actually requested it be withdrawn after Singer and his lawyers planned to counter-sue. Michael Egan is interviewed in the film, however. Moreover, though, the film gets into detail about Singer's periodic professional connections to not just individuals, but organizations that indulged the sexual predation of minors.

https://vimeo.com/142444429

As this Singer stuff breaks keep an ear up for the names Digital Entertainment Network (DEN) and Rawleywood. Michael Egan requested his suit against Singer be withdrawn apparently after the defense found some pretty damning evidence against his allegations. But regardless of the veracity of those allegations, it may have after all just been a mask for what is, if not indisputable, at least very likely from the overwhelming witness testimony that Egan and others present: That under the pretense of producing revolutionary digital TV content with young talent, DEN executives Marc Collins-Rector, Brock Pierce, and Chad Shackley hosted parties in which they not only preyed upon their young and aspiring talent sexually, plying them with drugs and alcohol, but also used them as enticement for older investors.

Yeah, there's been blind items about these guys for years and, as I posted before, there's the Relativity Media story.

Essentially Singer has really good people working for him and as long as he can keep writing cheques then he can keep getting away with what he wants. Based on his response to this latest story they're already mounting their usual PR blitz of a defence.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

These idiots will all duck out to Paris and congregate to the point of having enough people and money to form an exclusively sexual-predator filmmaking community. And some of the films will actually be good, and society will be eternally caught between hating the artist and loving the art.

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.
Oh, great, now we'll have to put up with Woody Allen becoming enamoured with another city. First New York, then London, now gently caress Island.

married but discreet
May 7, 2005


Taco Defender

Vegetable posted:

These idiots will all duck out to Paris and congregate to the point of having enough people and money to form an exclusively sexual-predator filmmaking community. And some of the films will actually be good, and society will be eternally caught between hating the artist and loving the art.

What's wrong with Russia? It's good enough for Steven Seagal and Gerard Depardieu!

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

Vegetable posted:

These idiots will all duck out to Paris and congregate to the point of having enough people and money to form an exclusively sexual-predator filmmaking community. And some of the films will actually be good, and society will be eternally caught between hating the artist and loving the art.
Yeah, sure they may not get the reception they expect in Paris.

21 Muns
Dec 10, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Toplowtech posted:

Yeah, sure they may not get the reception they expect in Paris.

France, well known for responding harshly to sexually abusive filmmakers.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat

LesterGroans posted:

Oh, great, now we'll have to put up with Woody Allen becoming enamoured with another city. First New York, then London, now gently caress Island.

Don't you mean the Pedof Isles

ALFbrot
Apr 17, 2002

Steve Yun posted:

Don't you mean the Pedof Isles

DC Murderverse posted:

you know where they're all gonna go, right?

The Pedof Isles!

ill see myself out thanks try the veal

:|

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
Yes I was pointing out that when you have Pedof Isles as an option introduced on the same page, why would anyone use gently caress Island

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

21 Muns posted:

France, well known for responding harshly to sexually abusive filmmakers.
Lol if you think EVERYONE is in favor of your loving pedos camping here and that we have no feminists who have constantly bitched (rightfully so) about Polanski for the last 30 years.
We have always refused the extradition of our citizen to foreign countries* and guess who did remember he got the French nationality (he was born here)?
We didn't keep him because he was a pedo you genius, do not come here if you think you loving kids is why we won't throw you back to the US.
Actually do come. We will make you a parade back to the US marshal plane.

*Not to country who practice the death penalty in particular.

Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Dec 8, 2017

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:

Toplowtech posted:

Lol if you think EVERYONE is in favor of your loving pedos camping here and that we have no feminists who have constantly bitched (rightfully so) about Polanski for the last 30 years.
We have always refused the extradition of our citizen to foreign countries* and guess who did remember he got the French nationality (he was born here)?
We didn't keep him because he was a pedo you genius, do not come here if you think you loving kids is why we won't throw you back to the US.
Actually do come. We will make you a parade back to the US marshal plane.

*Not to country who practice the death penalty in particular.

Hohn hohn hohn

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

Calaveron posted:

Hohn hohn hohn
Mayor Quimby deserved to be nuked.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

Super-bummed to hear Ron Perlman slammed John Oliver for the Hoffman interview. Perlman's a pretty liberal dude (and turbo-hates Trump, going by his twitter feed), but I guess it just goes to reinforce the fact that for many people the industry will always get the benefit of the doubt over the innocent victims who get chewed up by it

Tart Kitty fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Dec 9, 2017

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

It's definitely gonna get more stupid before the self reflection phase happens.

Red Mundus
Oct 22, 2010
Watch An Open Secret and hoo boy burn the whole loving thing down.

If you really want to hate everything you can read up on how hollywood buried and slandered the film so hard that barely anyone even knew it existed. They had to release it online for free and even then nobody until now starting watching it.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
See, I was thinking that was one of the (several) things that got this whole thing started.

Tars Tarkas
Apr 13, 2003

Rock the Mok



A nasty woman, I think you should try is, Jess.


Another Dustin Hoffman accuser:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/new-dustin-hoffman-accuser-claims-harassment-physical-violation-broadway-guest-column-1062349

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

That's the third woman this year and there was also Merryl Streep in 1979. I guess Dustin can't stop himself from grabbing tits.

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

I listened to the We Hate Movies podcast on Disclosure and I couldn't help but wonder how some regressive shithead could remake it these days to "strike back" against the "feminazis". I mean, the Death Wish remake looks to be going in that direction.

Disclosure: Directed by Bryan Singer, produced by the Weinstein Company.

SimonCat
Aug 12, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice
I happened to be reading the trivia for What about Bob? and found this anecdote about Bill Murray:

"Producer Laura Ziskin recalled having a disagreement with Bill Murray which led to her getting tossed into a lake by him. She confirmed in 2003, "Bill also threatened to throw me across the parking lot and then broke my sunglasses and threw them across the parking lot. I was furious and outraged at the time, but having produced a dozen movies, I can safely say it is not common behavior."

I'm scared to hear what else he may have done, other than assaulting a producer.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Oh god drat it Bill.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


At least it was just regular assault and not sexual assault?

Not that that makes it better but at least (so far) he's kept his dick in his pants

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Rhyno posted:

Oh god drat it Bill.

He was abusive to at least one of his wives and is notorious for being drunk or high all the time.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
The plot thickens in Sheenland

https://www.avclub.com/charlie-sheen-sues-the-national-enquirer-over-corey-hai-1821154420

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DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"


i'm gonna be honest, i didn't really believe that story, especially after Haim's mom came out and basically accused the guy who sold said story of actually being the person who molested Haim, which makes a whole lot more sense IMO.

I mean, Charlie Sheen is the king of Hollywood poo poo-bags, but it seemed like a nobody selling a story about a dead old friend for some attention/cash.

edit: also a reminder that the top editor for the Inquirer and US Weekly, Dylan Howard, was investigated for sexual harassment at the work place, asking multiple female officemates to watch porn in the office and making other lewd, inappropriate comments at teh workplace. (also he apparently called himself "Dildo" at the office which is something I called my friend Dillon when I was in grade school until he told me exactly what a dildo was.)

DC Murderverse fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Dec 10, 2017

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