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Best Fans St Louis is going to be great tonight. Also this:
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Popete posted:Please get Fowler off that team, he deserves better. Pancakes deserves better too
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Stanton please come to the Cubs if only for the salty takes. Also isn't it rather odd for a team to release a statement regarding a players choice not to play for them? Kinda throwing Stanton under the bus just cause he doesn't wanna move to St. Louis. @BestFansStLouis
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Popete posted:Also isn't it rather odd for a team to release a statement regarding a players choice not to play for them? Kinda throwing Stanton under the bus just cause he doesn't wanna move to St. Louis.
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Dec 8, 2017 23:02
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Uuuggghhhh I hate the Angels. I guess it's better than the Dodgers or something.
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Sydin posted:Speaking of the Cardinals apparently they're now listening to offers for Fowler.  I wonder why? I can not qwhite put my finger on it.
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beejay posted:Uuuggghhhh I hate the Angels. I guess it's better than the Dodgers or something. 
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Did anyone tell Ohtani that the Angels have completely wasted having the best player in the world for the last 6 years?
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mcmagic posted:Did anyone tell Ohtani that the Angels have completely wasted having the best player in the world for the last 6 years? Ohtani truly believes he can erase the crimes of Rally Monkey, he's in for a rude awakening.
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Sydin posted:Speaking of the Cardinals apparently they're now listening to offers for Fowler. They don't deserve Dex anyway. Come back home, Dex. We miss you!
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https://twitter.com/WillMiller1763/status/939256870354718721 Stanton is only in it for the money.
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Imagine wanting your pay to be in line with your skill at your profession Bet the same dude sees no problem with what CEOs make
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Cubs by far have the weakest farm out of those 4. No chance.
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Sydin posted:Speaking of the Cardinals apparently they're now listening to offers for Fowler. He wasn't v good defensively in Center they already have Pham in left field, so he'd be in right field where his offensive numbers don't look as impressive, so I'm just guessing they think they can do better while he might be an upgrade for another team.
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It doesn't matter how weak the farm is, it's pretty clear no team is going to give up a huge ransom of players for Stanton at this point. The best the Marlins can hope for is to get someone to eat the contract and throw in maybe a top 100 prospect
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Intruder posted:Imagine wanting your pay to be in line with your skill at your profession Or the fact that Stanton will make the same amount of money no matter where he goes.
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Popete posted:Or the fact that Stanton will make the same amount of money no matter where he goes. I clicked through on that one, he's insisting that Stanton wants to go to big cities like NY and LA for the endorsement opportunities
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Popete posted:Or the fact that Stanton will make the same amount of money no matter where he goes. Not true from a net pay standpoint due to varying state tax rates. 
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Intruder posted:I clicked through on that one, he's insisting that Stanton wants to go to big cities like NY and LA for the endorsement opportunities Oh right of course, that's obviously it.
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Pancakes posted:Not true from a net pay standpoint due to varying state tax rates. So he's coming to the Astros you say
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So what's to prevent whoever trades for Stanton from signing him to an extension that adds 20 years at $1M/yr on to the end of his current contract? That'd lower his luxury tax AAV to like $10.5M. For that matter, why wouldn't several teams do this sort of thing for Harper et all next year?
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Pretty sure the league would immediately void that As hot and bothered as Stanton on the Astros gets me, I'm not sure I want them to be paying him so much into his age 38 season Still a better contract than Pujols though
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Sydin posted:Speaking of the Cardinals apparently they're now listening to offers for Fowler. The largest position player talent pool they have in AAA is in the outfield and their farm team this year was insane, they finished something like 35 games over .500 (to the extent that such things matter). Dex has been good for them but medium-term I think they want to have Mags or O’Neill in CF and Dex’s production isn’t as good by corner outfielder standards. Dex is by all accounts popular in the clubhouse and well-liked by non-racist fans, but to be fair I haven’t been back to St. Louis since 2013 NLDS Game 2. I’m trying to persuade Kevlar and Poque to do a road trip from Chicago to St. Louis for a game but apparently my bitchin’ ‘06 Civic isn’t much of a draw.
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Aren't the Mets still paying Bobby Bonilla $1m a year until like 2035?
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Meydey posted:Aren't the Mets still paying Bobby Bonilla $1m a year until like 2035? The Bonilla thing wasn't to circumvent the luxury tax system though
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Intruder posted:The Bonilla thing wasn't to circumvent the luxury tax system though But it's still hilarious.
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Your Taint posted:But it's still hilarious. Oh absolutely, I just meant that any attempt to sign someone to a zillion year contract at $1 per year to beat the luxury tax is going to get Manfred loving them right up the rear end with fines before voiding the whole thing really fast
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I still don't think the Cubs are going to eat Stanton's contract, though, seeing as they want to be major players in next year's FA market.
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Your Taint posted:I still don't think the Cubs are going to eat Stanton's contract, though, seeing as they want to be major players in next year's FA market. My guess is that the Cubs thinking is that given how thin the farm is running these days, they'd rather just play the lotto of trying to sign Harper next season vs trading pieces for Stanton. Who knows though. bawfuls posted:So what's to prevent whoever trades for Stanton from signing him to an extension that adds 20 years at $1M/yr on to the end of his current contract? That'd lower his luxury tax AAV to like $10.5M. Manfred would stomp on the contract immediately since it's clearly set up to get around the CBA. Pancakes posted:The largest position player talent pool they have in AAA is in the outfield and their farm team this year was insane, they finished something like 35 games over .500 (to the extent that such things matter). Dex has been good for them but medium-term I think they want to have Mags or O’Neill in CF and Dex’s production isn’t as good by corner outfielder standards. Dex is by all accounts popular in the clubhouse and well-liked by non-racist fans, but to be fair I haven’t been back to St. Louis since 2013 NLDS Game 2. Fair enough I guess, but if the Cardinals had tons of AAA OF depth nipping at the heels of MLB, why did they go out and sign Fowler to a 5/82 contract?
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lol, poor Jeets.
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Popete posted:lol, poor Jeets. I hope Stanton gets him a fruit basket.
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Popete posted:lol, poor Jeets. 
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Very few of them seemed MLB-ready a year ago, Bader was the only one anyone had any serious hopes on seeing. They also had absolutely no idea Pham would break out. Check out Pham’s stat line for the year, then realize he was in AAA for the first month because the Cards had all but given up on him as a regular.
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bawfuls posted:What if, and here's a crazy idea, Jeets had spoken to his superstar player with a NTC about where he'd be willing to go before beginning trade talks? Eh I feel like players often say like one place they would accept, but then end up accepting a different place when forced to make a decision.
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