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Timeless Appeal
May 28, 2006

Timby posted:

He was abusive to at least one of his wives and is notorious for being drunk or high all the time.
The same divorce proceedings you're referring to also mentioned him threatening to kill her, sex addiction which is more or less code for harassment at this point, Murray is pretty categorically a piece of poo poo.

But it does speak to a bigger issue of pieces of poo poo sort of being grandfather claused out of the discussion.

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El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
ARE YOU SHITTIN' ME MCFLY?

https://consequenceofsound.net/2017/12/steven-tyler-opens-womens-shelter-for-abused-girls/?wasp=facebook-ads

https://consequenceofsound.net/2017/12/louis-c-k-buys-back-i-love-you-daddy-amid-sexual-misconduct-scandal/

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Jesus you made me think those links were going to be about Michael J Fox

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

Al Borland Corp. posted:

Jesus you made me think those links were going to be about Michael J Fox

Yeah, I don't need that. Even more than Bill Murray, that would kill me.

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.

DC Murderverse posted:

i'm gonna be honest, i didn't really believe that story, especially after Haim's mom came out and basically accused the guy who sold said story of actually being the person who molested Haim, which makes a whole lot more sense IMO.

I mean, Charlie Sheen is the king of Hollywood poo poo-bags, but it seemed like a nobody selling a story about a dead old friend for some attention/cash.

edit: also a reminder that the top editor for the Inquirer and US Weekly, Dylan Howard, was investigated for sexual harassment at the work place, asking multiple female officemates to watch porn in the office and making other lewd, inappropriate comments at teh workplace. (also he apparently called himself "Dildo" at the office which is something I called my friend Dillon when I was in grade school until he told me exactly what a dildo was.)

I'm pretty sure that in Feldman's book he pretty much names the guy who did it and it wasn't Sheen. I'm sure it was the same guy who was getting Haim drugs as well.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Michael Stipe faced a lot of scrutiny for not coming out sooner, too.

Ehhhh... that was kind of expected. He's always been bi/pan and that was never a secret, but it was never talked about either. He didn't sing about that kind of stuff until the early 90s, which is when he finally said on the record that he's "an equal opportunity lech". I don't recall offhand if it was before or after that that he had done a version of "gently caress Star Me Kitten" with William S. Burroughs. I know Courtney Love was bragging about how she kept telling Kurt Cobain to gently caress Stipe if he (Cobain) was "really bi" which just, go away Courtney.

I think a lot more people were mad at Morrissey for refusing to say for so long more than Stipe, who at least came out when his career was at its peak.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

precision posted:

Ehhhh... that was kind of expected. He's always been bi/pan and that was never a secret, but it was never talked about either. He didn't sing about that kind of stuff until the early 90s, which is when he finally said on the record that he's "an equal opportunity lech". I don't recall offhand if it was before or after that that he had done a version of "gently caress Star Me Kitten" with William S. Burroughs. I know Courtney Love was bragging about how she kept telling Kurt Cobain to gently caress Stipe if he (Cobain) was "really bi" which just, go away Courtney.

I think a lot more people were mad at Morrissey for refusing to say for so long more than Stipe, who at least came out when his career was at its peak.

Ugh. There are things that I like about Courtney but so, so many things that I don't.

Syncopated
Oct 21, 2010

quote:

In 1975, Tyler, then 27, began dating a 16-year-old girl named Julia Holcomb, whose mother signed over her guardianship to him. She soon became pregnant, but then their relationship went south. Their apartment caught on fire, and she ended up in a hospital, during which time Tyler forced her to have an abortion.

What the gently caress?

OTOH,

quote:

In 2015, Tyler established Janie’s Fund to help at-risk girls and the Atlanta women’s shelter is the charity’s latest initiative.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Syncopated posted:

What the gently caress?

OTOH,


Jimmy Page did the guardianship thing too, and so did Nugent.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Jimmy Page did the guardianship thing too, and so did Nugent.

every rock star who does this pales in comparison to Jerry Lee Lewis, who married his 13-year-old first cousin.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

DC Murderverse posted:

every rock star who does this pales in comparison to Jerry Lee Lewis, who married his 13-year-old first cousin.

This is true. I always thought it was kinda ballsy to present the unvarnished truth in Great Balls of Fire.

GonSmithe
Apr 25, 2010

Perhaps it's in the nature of television. Just waves in space.
Not exactly Hollywood, but
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/940057446566977539

Somebody close to Bourdain, it seems. Really hope it's not Eric Ripert.
https://twitter.com/bourdain/status/940035834786414592

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

GonSmithe posted:

Not exactly Hollywood, but
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/940057446566977539

Somebody close to Bourdain, it seems. Really hope it's not Eric Ripert.
https://twitter.com/bourdain/status/940035834786414592

I literally just today was talking about how much I want to eat at Le Bernadin someday, if it’s Ripert I will be severely bummed. Or god forbid Rick Bayless.

I hope it’s just more piling on someone we already know is a shitbag, like Geoffrey Zakarian.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


I really hope it's not Mario Batali in 2017, this most iconoclastic of years.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat

GonSmithe posted:

Somebody close to Bourdain, it seems. Really hope it's not Eric Ripert.
https://twitter.com/bourdain/status/940035834786414592

Looking over his twitter feed for the last day, it looks like Bourdain is talking about Josh Homme from QOTSA kicking a photographer in the face, not about any chef sex scandal.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747
Guy fiery?

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


1. Guy Fieri is not a chef.
2. Everyone would be relieved that it was Guy Fieri eating poo poo and not someone they actually respected.

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.

exquisite tea posted:

I really hope it's not Mario Batali in 2017, this most iconoclastic of years.

Uh oh.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

exquisite tea posted:

I really hope it's not Mario Batali in 2017, this most iconoclastic of years.

Bring on the horrible, horrible jokes about Crocs, 2017

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DO0kxKMHIA

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

I read the story about Batali and it sounds like he’s definitely a gross pig with an alcohol problem, and there’s a mention in there about how bawdy and gross the restaurant industry was in the 90s (I’m sure it’s still probably not great so someone pointing out how bad it was should really mean something), makes me wonder if we’re going to see more stories from about chefs from waitresses (because I’m sure most of the time the waitresses are the ones who take that sort of abuse for so, so many reasons, most of them to do with power imbalances.)

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

exquisite tea posted:

1. Guy Fieri is not a chef.
2. Everyone would be relieved that it was Guy Fieri eating poo poo and not someone they actually respected.

I don't know now, man. I've seen Fieri go at a bacon cheeseburger, and it certainly felt like it was some kind of criminal assault.

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan
Yeah, the owners of one place I worked treated it like a waitress buffet. They’d have ‘a lineup’ of all the women applying for waitstaff jobs, then ogle than all and hire the prettiest.

I was hired as a bartender months before it opened so I didn’t know any of this. Of course I treated it like normal sexist world stuff at the time. I wasn’t offended the way I would be now, or happy to be working with so much ‘talent’, as they called it, the way I would have been were I not already in a relationship...

My favorite other story is how the owner would take out $100s from the bar till and vanish with the dishwasher after closing.

Oh yeah, Black people were called Canadians as a code and they were deemed non-tipping l. And I got a weird phone message from a regular asking to get his buddy a hookup with one of the waitresses.

Christ, telephone tech support was such an upgrade.

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.
I remember watching Mario Batali's Hot Ones episode and thinking at one point, "Man, this guy is a little gross, I wonder if he's done anything," and then I immediately felt bad because I know the whole point about this is that we're not supposed to, like, be profiling random people because of abstract feelings on how gross they are.

Then GonSmithe posted those tweets and I had the same thought, not even being able to remember the guy's name so I didn't even pick up on it when exquisite mentioned him, but just remembering that face and having the same feeling of, "God dammit, I'm profiling again! Stop it!"

Well...

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Hoffman tearing up over his Tootsie role takes on a new light these days:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuaiR89iofE&t=120s

Larry King Denies Allegations He Groped Ex-Wife Of Singer Eddie Fisher
https://etcanada.com/news/279456/la...-crack-of-my-a/

Catfishenfuego
Oct 21, 2008

Moist With Indignation
The restaurant industry is basically a cesspool of toxic masculinity and rape culture and hasn't improved at all.

asecondduck
Feb 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Catfishenfuego posted:

[Every] industry is basically a cesspool of toxic masculinity and rape culture and hasn't improved at all.

Let’s be clear here.

GonSmithe
Apr 25, 2010

Perhaps it's in the nature of television. Just waves in space.

lelandjs posted:

Let’s be clear here.

That might be true, but the culinary industry is especially so.

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

GonSmithe posted:

That might be true, but the culinary industry is especially so.

Especially because having attractive waitstaff and bartenders often results in profit for the business just because of that. It only increases the superficiality and toxicity of the whole business.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
I spent 10 years in the service industry and it is every bit the hellhole you imagine it to be. For women anyways.

Hockles
Dec 25, 2007

Resident of Camp Blood
Crystal Lake

Crossposting from the NFL thread (this is kind of Hollywood) --

shyduck posted:

here's one of the tweets from the w14 thread

https://twitter.com/soshnick/status/940434348444176384

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
I had my money on Bobby Flay.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

I had my money on Bobby Flay.

I have no doubt he's been a sleazebag, you can just see it in his beady little eyes.

Having worked front and back of the house, even managing my own restaurant twice, yeah it's toxic as fuuuuuck. Especially in certain areas where the customers expect female servers to flirt if they want even a decent tip, whereas male servers would routinely get tipped a lot even when they weren't hustling at all.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

I had my money on Bobby Flay.

The thought crossed my mind, but Bourdain's tweet that "tomorrow is going to suck" erased that. He detests Flay, so he wouldn't have been depressed about him going down.

But Batali was absolutely my first guess and it's not shocking in the slightest. In the book Heat, by Bill Buford, he's painted as a narcissistic, drunken, coke-snorting egomaniac who treats people like absolute poo poo (this is the book in which the tale is recounted of Batali going out partying, then waking up in a hotel room that he didn't recognize, wearing swimming trunks, despite the hotel not having a swimming pool). He also had noted terrible person Anne Burrell as his sous on Iron Chef America.

precision posted:

I have no doubt he's been a sleazebag, you can just see it in his beady little eyes.

I believe he was rumored to have fathered January Jones' baby while still married to Stephanie March. (Edit: Yeah, in March's divorce filings she says that he was sleeping with Jones on the side for ages.)

Timby fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Dec 12, 2017

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
What's Anne Burrell done besides being totally unlikeable?

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

What's Anne Burrell done besides being totally unlikeable?


DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"


Well this is depressing and horrifying.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Oh for god's sake.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Timby posted:

I believe he was rumored to have fathered January Jones' baby while still married to Stephanie March. (Edit: Yeah, in March's divorce filings she says that he was sleeping with Jones on the side for ages.)

Who is this stallion, this Adonis incarnate, that Stephanie March wasn't good enough?

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GonSmithe
Apr 25, 2010

Perhaps it's in the nature of television. Just waves in space.

McSpanky posted:

Who is this stallion, this Adonis incarnate, that Stephanie March wasn't good enough?

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