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Mr.Tophat: Apr 7, 2007; You clearly don't understand joke development

Thoatse posted:

https://i.imgur.com/9y2mDXc.gifv

That is the cutest thing I've ever seen, and that's because the cow has learned from the dog how to show affection :3:

# ? Dec 12, 2017 04:59

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# ? Apr 25, 2024 22:44

SCtrumpHaters: Oct 28, 2017; by Nyc_Tattoo

SomethingJones posted:

I REMEMBER

...when Arena Commander was finally released in the middle of the night, I think it was a January years ago. I was following the SC reddit on my phone because boy was there some hype around this game and here were the backers getting their hands on the first bit of it. It was thrilling.

It was absolute chaos and nothing was working properly and poo poo was being compiled and posted every half an hour and nobody cared because hype. It went on for hours. I fell asleep.

The next day I checked the RSI forums and all hell had broken loose. At least that's how I remember it. There was a guy who had been designing spaceships, doing modelling, making poo poo and posting it, joining in, getting HYPE. He was loving disgusted with the lovely arcade flight model and he deleted his ships and hosed off and was never seen again.

It all went a bit downhill from there.

all down hill to 172 million dollars. listen to yourself.

# ? Dec 12, 2017 05:00

Dusty Lens: Jul 1, 2015; All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

SCtrumpHaters posted:

all down hill to 172 million dollars. listen to yourself.

I'm sure there's a joke in there about listing all of CIGs accomplishments to date but I can't put my finger on it.

# ? Dec 12, 2017 05:04

BluesShaman: Apr 25, 2016; She wore Blue Velvet.

Good riddance to bad gimmick.

# ? Dec 12, 2017 05:06

SomethingJones: Mar 6, 2016; <3

So that's what that button does

# ? Dec 12, 2017 05:07

Combat Theory: Jul 16, 2017

Rest in spaghetti, never forgetti

Where's star citizen version of the "press F to pay respects" gif?

# ? Dec 12, 2017 05:11

Mr.Tophat: Apr 7, 2007; You clearly don't understand joke development

I've literally never reported anyone, and I don't think I ever would, even if they were a bug that needed to be smashed

# ? Dec 12, 2017 05:11

Mr.Tophat: Apr 7, 2007; You clearly don't understand joke development

I'm a little sad you can't report yourself

I can't turn myself into the cops for shitposting :qq:

# ? Dec 12, 2017 05:15

Spiderdrake: May 12, 2001

Combat Theory posted:

Where's star citizen version of the "press F to pay respects" gif?

Wouldn't it just be archering the normal gif but dropping it to 7 frames per second?

# ? Dec 12, 2017 05:16

Lladre: Jun 28, 2011; Soiled Meat

SCtrumpHaters posted:

all down hill to 172 million dollars. listen to yourself.

God drat it Beet, you had one job.
https://forums.somethingawful.com/banlist.php?userid=221915

# ? Dec 12, 2017 05:20

G0RF: Mar 19, 2015; Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

AngusPodgorny posted:

That's what they pretend, but "pledge" isn't a magic word that immunizes them from consumer protection laws. And a prosecutor is a far more existential threat than Coutts, which is why they flinch every time a prosecutor gets involved in a refund request.

THE AUTHORITIES: �You can�t just decide not to deliver your single player game, Mr. Roberts...�

CHRIS: �Of course not!�

THE AUTHORITIES: �Then you�re aware that you�d be legally obligated to refund any pre-purchase revenues derived from said product?�

CHRIS: �Yes and in fact I�ve already cut the check to make any backers whole.�

THE AUTHORITIES: �Well presumably you�ll be printing more than one?�

CHRIS; �Nope, just one!�

Chris reaches behind his Restoration Hardware desk and pulls out a comically oversized check, �PAYABLE TO MR. BEN LESNICK in the amount of $60.�

Cue laugh track. Roberts turns to camera and makes an exaggerated shrug with a stupid, sheepish grin on his face which locks in FREEZE FRAME.

Title pop: �Directed by CHRIS ROBERTS�

# ? Dec 12, 2017 05:21

Mr.Tophat: Apr 7, 2007; You clearly don't understand joke development

Guys, I've known you all for a long time and we've been through a lot

And now I need your help for the purpose of comedy

I need you to report everyone who quotes my first post in THIS THREAD

Mr.Tophat fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Dec 12, 2017

# ? Dec 12, 2017 05:24

ComfyPants: Mar 20, 2002

Free Tophat's quoters.

# ? Dec 12, 2017 05:33

Variable 5: Apr 17, 2007; We do these things not because they are easy, but because we thought they would be easy.; Grimey Drawer

Mr.Tophat posted:

Guys, I've known you all for a long time and we've been through a lot

And now I need your help for the purpose of comedy

I need you to report everyone who quotes my first post in THIS THREAD

Are you okay, friend?

# ? Dec 12, 2017 05:35

Mr.Tophat: Apr 7, 2007; You clearly don't understand joke development

ComfyPants posted:

Free Tophat's quoters.

Someone should report him, he's outta control

# ? Dec 12, 2017 05:35

Mr.Tophat: Apr 7, 2007; You clearly don't understand joke development

Variable 5 posted:

Are you okay, friend?

I just bought this shirt, what do you think

# ? Dec 12, 2017 05:36

Virtual Captain: Feb 20, 2017; Archive Priest of the Stimperial Order

Star Citizen Good, in all things forevermore. Amen.

trucutru posted:

By the way guys, I've looking for info on "network culling" (mainly for cheat prevention) but I haven't found many games where the servers make sure that clients don't get updates from stuff they shouldn't see. Does anybody can give me some examples?

Only truely successful implementation I can think of is World of Warcraft stealth. Far as I know there were never any hacks to detect rogues that are in the network comms but not rendered on the screen. I believe this is because all the detection mechanics were run on the server but I don't know for sure because the WoW server-client still seems like a black box.

I am not an expert, but
One difficult thing about response occlusion on the server, especially in 3D games is detecting what objects can see each other, does the server keep track of the character's center x-y position or the entire bounds of the character model? I don't now all the fancy 3D terms but for the same reason a grenade might not damage you even though it went off inches away, the detection got caught on some random vertex or geometry left over in the level editor.

Also consider a match of Counter-Strike, obviously players shouldn't be able to sniff the network for enemies on the other side of a wall, but what if one player accidentally reveals the crown of his head through a window, even for a brief second? Is the client fast enough to draw the character that it suddenly hears about from the server? I'd argue not in most cases, or at least the easier solution is to lockdown the client with cheat detection and/or obfuscation.

Virtual Captain fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Dec 12, 2017

# ? Dec 12, 2017 05:39

DapperDon: Sep 7, 2016

SCtrumpHaters posted:

no one gives a poo poo derek. you have been passed by playing coy for over 2 years.

the other guy is the new derek now.

# ? Dec 12, 2017 05:49

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

that stuff about the S42 trailer before star wars is crazy as hell. like surely, if it is indeed true, that's a horrible blow to CIG?

# ? Dec 12, 2017 05:52

Ursine Catastrophe: Nov 9, 2009; It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.

don't ask how i know; Dinosaur Gum

SomethingJones posted:

There is a legal obligation. When you put something up for sale you are making an offer. When someone accepts the offer it forms a civil contract. This is retail 101. That's why if something is labelled with the wrong price in a store or on a site they have to sell it at that price if you accept the offer and take it to the checkout.

CIG are obliged to deliver what they sold or refund your purchase. That's all there is to it. All of the arguments about pledges and services and whatever bore me, because they are all wrong and written by people who have no clue what they are talking about.

lmao what

just because businesses will "usually" honor it for the sake of it being more hassle not to, doesn't mean the business is required to honor ~~whatever price tag a customer stuck to an item or display a customer swapped~~ a displayed price

now, if you have something advertised elsewhere (in a newspaper or something) and you get to the store and it's a different price you may have a compelling argument about the company pulling a bait-and-switch, but you'd still have an uphill battle to actually prove that it wasn't an honest mistake on the company's part (you're not going to get a $10,000 TV for $10 because the comma was a period). if you're already in the store and you're told a coffeemaker is $10 more than what you thought it was, take it or leave it then your "emotional damages" are going to be nonexistent

# ? Dec 12, 2017 05:53

Mr.Tophat: Apr 7, 2007; You clearly don't understand joke development

SomethingJones is right, in the UK if it's labelled a price and whoops, it turns out to be more, that's against the law if the label aint removed or something

I remember watching Short Change and it told me about this years ago so it must be true

# ? Dec 12, 2017 06:00

G0RF: Mar 19, 2015; Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

Milky Moor posted:

that stuff about the S42 trailer before star wars is crazy as hell. like surely, if it is indeed true, that's a horrible blow to CIG?

It would be wonderful if there�s a Squadron trailer before Star Wars and if the game did release.

Plus it would mean Jake�s big scoop from a year and a half ago finally came to pass.

Please let this be true!

# ? Dec 12, 2017 06:13

Dusty Lens: Jul 1, 2015; All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

Mr.Tophat posted:

I remember watching Short Change and it told me about this years ago so it must be true

I watched Short Circuit and all I learned was about the Los Locos gang.

Maybe it's not a series.

# ? Dec 12, 2017 06:14

Milkfred E. Moore: Aug 27, 2006; 'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

G0RF posted:

It would be wonderful if there�s a Squadron trailer before Star Wars and if the game did release.

Plus it would mean Jake�s big scoop from a year and a half ago finally came to pass.

Please let this be true!

i thought scruffpuff said that they can't though, they don't have it ready in time

# ? Dec 12, 2017 06:15

SomethingJones: Mar 6, 2016; <3

Ursine Catastrophe posted:

lmao what

just because businesses will "usually" honor it for the sake of it being more hassle not to, doesn't mean the business is required to honor ~~whatever price tag a customer stuck to an item or display a customer swapped~~ a displayed price

now, if you have something advertised elsewhere (in a newspaper or something) and you get to the store and it's a different price you may have a compelling argument about the company pulling a bait-and-switch, but you'd still have an uphill battle to actually prove that it wasn't an honest mistake on the company's part (you're not going to get a $10,000 TV for $10 because the comma was a period). if you're already in the store and you're told a coffeemaker is $10 more than what you thought it was, take it or leave it then your "emotional damages" are going to be nonexistent

The contract is made at the point of sale which is where you take it to the checkout. This is basic stuff. Businesses don't honour it to 'avoid hassle' they do it because that's the letter of the law. In reality most customers and sales reps don't know this, but it's true.

If you see an item in a newspaper advertised for a price and you get to the store and it's a different price that's just tough poo poo, there's nothing you can do about that and it happens all the time.

# ? Dec 12, 2017 06:15

Ursine Catastrophe: Nov 9, 2009; It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.

don't ask how i know; Dinosaur Gum

SomethingJones posted:

The contract is made at the point of sale which is where you take it to the checkout. This is basic stuff. Businesses don't honour it to 'avoid hassle' they do it because that's the letter of the law. In reality most customers and sales reps don't know this, but it's true.

If you see an item in a newspaper advertised for a price and you get to the store and it's a different price that's just tough poo poo, there's nothing you can do about that and it happens all the time.

https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2010/09/your-rights-as-a-consumer/index.htm

quote:

The sign in the store says the computer printer is $2.49, but it rang up at $249. Saying it was an error, the store is refusing to honor the posted price.

The law

It's generally a myth that retailers must honor a posted price if it's simply a mistake, although some stores might do so as a matter of policy or on a case-by-case basis. The issue gets murky if the retailer begins processing the order, something that is more likely to happen online, says Jane Winn, a professor at the University of Washington Law School. But even then, she says, a merchant might be able to cancel the purchase if the price was so low that a buyer should have known it was mistake. An online retailer's fine print may relieve it of the duty to fulfill orders based on pricing errors.

Businesses that intentionally post false prices or that otherwise engage in bait-and-switch pricing can be liable under federal and state consumer-protection statutes.

# ? Dec 12, 2017 06:19

DapperDon: Sep 7, 2016

Mr.Tophat posted:

SomethingJones is right, in the UK if it's labelled a price and whoops, it turns out to be more, that's against the law if the label aint removed or something

I remember watching Short Change and it told me about this years ago so it must be true

See what happened? Something Jones goes M.I.A. for a while. Thread goes to absolute and utter poo poo. Suddenly Jones is back! And now poo poo is starting to come together.

# ? Dec 12, 2017 06:21

SomethingJones: Mar 6, 2016; <3

Ursine Catastrophe posted:

https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2010/09/your-rights-as-a-consumer/index.htm

That's not how it works in the UK, regardless of your google-fu.

# ? Dec 12, 2017 06:23

Jobbo_Fett: Mar 7, 2014; Slava Ukrayini; Clapping Larry

tooterfish posted:

It's not an option, because that implies there's an alternative.

No you moron. Failure is not an option. It has since been replaced with "Thank you for playing Star Citizen!"

# ? Dec 12, 2017 06:24

Ursine Catastrophe: Nov 9, 2009; It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.

don't ask how i know; Dinosaur Gum

Mr.Tophat posted:

SomethingJones is right, in the UK if it's labelled a price and whoops, it turns out to be more, that's against the law if the label aint removed or something

I remember watching Short Change and it told me about this years ago so it must be true

Oh, if SJ is talking about the UK that'd probably be a little different than the US in some regards.

e:fb

# ? Dec 12, 2017 06:25

G0RF: Mar 19, 2015; Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

Milky Moor posted:

i thought scruffpuff said that they can't though, they don't have it ready in time

He did and may very well be right. I�d never bet against ScruffPuff. But can�t a man hope? I don�t know if you�ve heard this before but I gotta believe!

(For realz I am behind the times on any non-thread scuttlebutt about Squadron so discount my comments on the matter accordingly.

)

G0RF fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Dec 12, 2017

# ? Dec 12, 2017 06:26

SomethingJones: Mar 6, 2016; <3

Ursine Catastrophe posted:

Oh, if SJ is talking about the UK that'd probably be a little different than the US in some regards.

e:fb

The reason CIG have to give refunds is because they have accepted the orders for the spaceships. If you buy a ship it appears in your account which is an acceptance of the order as opposed to a 'receipt' of the order. The acceptance forms the contract which in real terms is the consumer legislation applicable in the country of the customer.

If they only 'received' the order there is no contract of sale and in this case CIG could get away with calling these things pledges. But they don't, they accept the order, accept the money, show the goods in your account and you are awaiting delivery. Which never comes.

# ? Dec 12, 2017 06:35

Shadowlyger: Nov 5, 2009; ElvUI super fan at your service!

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Jobbo_Fett posted:

Failure is not an option.

According to the Mythbusters, failure is always an option.

# ? Dec 12, 2017 06:36

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

Virtual Captain posted:

Also consider a match of Counter-Strike, obviously players shouldn't be able to sniff the network for enemies on the other side of a wall, but what if one player accidentally reveals the crown of his head through a window, even for a brief second? Is the client fast enough to draw the character that it suddenly hears about from the server? I'd argue not in most cases, or at least the easier solution is to lockdown the client with cheat detection and/or obfuscation.

Well, the idea is that the server culls the messages when a character is firmly behind a wall or such, but as the character approaches the wall end, it starts sending updates to the client (which will still not show it to the player but is now aware of its existence) so that the client is ready to draw the character if it does leave the wall area.

I find it kind of weird that stuff like this (which has a shitload of papers written about) is not implemented in more games.

I investigated a bit and found none to be honest.

# ? Dec 12, 2017 06:38

SomethingJones: Mar 6, 2016; <3

poo poo I googled it and I'm wrong

You have to hand over money in the UK before there's a contract BUT if it's clearly not a mistake as in it's not just one item priced wrong but all the items priced wrong then they have to honour it.

Contract is formed at the point of sale and the point of sale is when you pay for it.

Therefore

and furthermore

# ? Dec 12, 2017 06:47

SomethingJones: Mar 6, 2016; <3

G0RF posted:

It would be wonderful if there�s a Squadron trailer before Star Wars and if the game did release.

Plus it would mean Jake�s big scoop from a year and a half ago finally came to pass.

Please let this be true!

Man, INN were so close there to being right about something.

# ? Dec 12, 2017 06:51

SomethingJones: Mar 6, 2016; <3

I know how they feel

# ? Dec 12, 2017 06:51

G0RF: Mar 19, 2015; Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

SomethingJones posted:

Man, INN were so close there to being right about something.

I�m cracking up!

(Even so, I will never forget Erris�s shining nanosecond of lucidity... If only he�d held on to it, rather than let it pass like a fever dream.)

# ? Dec 12, 2017 07:07

Mr.Tophat: Apr 7, 2007; You clearly don't understand joke development

DapperDon posted:

See what happened? Something Jones goes M.I.A. for a while. Thread goes to absolute and utter poo poo. Suddenly Jones is back! And now poo poo is starting to come together.

I aint talking about that film

I'm talking about a series in Britain about consumer rights and poo poo for young people in the 90s I wanna say

# ? Dec 12, 2017 07:12

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Mr.Tophat: Apr 7, 2007; You clearly don't understand joke development

SomethingJones posted:

poo poo I googled it and I'm wrong

You have to hand over money in the UK before there's a contract BUT if it's clearly not a mistake as in it's not just one item priced wrong but all the items priced wrong then they have to honour it.

Contract is formed at the point of sale and the point of sale is when you pay for it.

Therefore

and furthermore

in cuntclusion

# ? Dec 12, 2017 07:12

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